Originally posted by Viesczy
With all the billions the oil companies have been ripping us off for years I don't mind a few going for green energy. We'll never get off oil if we
don't try.
It is so easy to pick on "big oil" as the source of all your problems, but the fact is that they behave like and benefit from the same policies that
this country used to apply to
all industry, before demagogues began trying to pick market winners and public scapegoats for policy
failures.
You do not have to be "ripped off." Grow your own food, ride a bike or moped, use candles and wood fire.
Face it, we are dependent upon fossil fuels and will be for a while longer.
If we didn't have to ship 20% or more of our oil across the ocean, buy it from enemies and protect the sources, oil would be a lot cheaper than it is
today. Domestic production and cleaner fuels like NG are the answer; not spouting meaningless blather at straw man targets.
Maybe you haven't noticed, but, here on Earth, we are naturally weaning ourselves off oil with ever-increasing efficiency and free-market forces
driving companies to better-use their capital and limited access to natural resources.
Environmental values embedded in our society produce continuous improvements in air & water quality, resource conservation, waste handling, and
technology. In terms of energy per dollar of GDP, our economy is becoming increasingly less energy and carbon intensive.
Gov. "Green" Push Puts U.S. in the
Red
Since you have no idea what the economic and evolutionary realities of industrial society are, here's a measured evaluation.
Analyses of the evolving efficiency of the full energy system show that the United States has averaged about one percent less energy to produce a
good or service each year since about 1800. ...
Happily, the most important single fact to emerge from 20 years of energy analyses is the gradual "decarbonization" of the energy system, the
falling number of carbon molecules used to provide a unit of energy or economic product.
The Environment for Future Business: Efficiency will win
Moreover, the study has attributed this not to government intervention but to the fact that “the natural evolution of the energy system is away from
carbon.” Technology, innovation, and market forces have been the drivers. And they will continue to be if the government lets them function.
Now, if you want to stop driving, flying, using transported goods and unplug from the grid; good for you. The rest of the country (and our energy
technology) are not quite ready to join you.
Originally posted by buster2010
^agreed.
With the amount of control that they, the oil companies have in this world, and their rigging of markets to push down alternative energy, now more
than ever we need investment from government in alt sources.
"Investment" is different from payoffs and bailouts. "Investors" make informed choices based upon risk and return, not political consequences and
cronyism.
You have notjhing to support your alleged "rigging of markets" other than delusional paranoia. If alternative energy were viable on a large scale,
it might become a true "investment." Neither Barack Obama or Secretary Chu were given their positions based upon their "investing" prowess. This
"theory" is completely baseless.
Even the Chinese, true "riggers of markets," can't keep alt energy profitable. They now have overproduction and underutilization with the
attendant loss of EU and Western markets..
Get real.
First and foremost the existing Corporations are about continuing their profits in all ways possible, second is improving the technologies
that solely improve their profits.
Isn't that called "capitalism?" Now your true colors show through!
How does
any technology "solely improve profits?"
Sophistry!
No technology has any value unless it has a market; it has to be shared.
w/o investment and action from the Government we always will be relying the chemical release of energy via burning for power.
Pure BS
(Barack Supplicant).
As their wealth grows, people consume more energy, but they move to more efficient and cleaner sources — from wood to coal and oil, and then to
natural gas and nuclear power, progressively emitting less carbon per unit of
energy.
Use Energy,Get Rich and Save the Planet
The lesson here is that government should not pick winners for future energy sources; rather, it should provide clear and consistent rules for
competition and an environment that encourages private innovation and true "investment."
deny ignorance
jw