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Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by gabby2011
Yes these are the end times autowrench, but you are being deceived as to what will happen and by who..and I will continue to keep you in my prayers.
Did your book tell you that? Or was it your preacher? Friend, you do not know me, you do know know who, or what I am, where I came from, and even if I told you you would not be able to fully understand what I said. I feel sorry for you. I sincerely hope that you wake up, before it is too late.
What kind of a statement is that, friend? Who are you to judge me? My relationship with the Divine is my own business, not yours, nor is it your place to define. So it is wrong to ask questions now? Who teaches that? I can tell you, Cult Leaders teach that. "Listen to me, not them, they are of the Devil"
I am here to force people like you to question your Blind Faith, and ask questions about your religion, and the origins of, and the origins and sources of your book. What happens to me after I leave this planet is none of your concern, your concern is asking your self these questions, and seeking the answers, for your time is short. No one is coming to save you, that is your job.
Deal with your own soul, and be a preacher to those who want to listen to you... but don't ever ever dare try and tell Christians that their Holy Spirit is a demon, because you may well incur the wrath of the God...and will have no one to blame but yourself.
Originally posted by gabby2011
reply to post by autowrench
There are many Christians who DO NOT do the will of God, and indeed are under the influence of evil spirits..
BUT..to blame the Holy trinity and call the Holy Spirit a demon is going beyond the shortcomings of Humans.
Like I said before autowrench..worry about your own soul.. because I fear your pride will blind you to the truth and mercy of God when the time comes for His great warning, and sign for conversion.
How dare you think you have the divine knowledge of God, but can't even acknowledge that you need the grace and mercy of God...and refuse to see the authenticity of what Jesus did for souls.
You have the right to believe what you want autowrench.. but if you think you can admonish members because they are concerned about your salvation.. then you need to back off trying to teach people your lies...and blaspheming the Holy Spirit.
This is just another type of mind control, telling people stories about conspiracies and mind control and a lot of other scary things to put you in a condition of fear that causes your higher mental functions to cease and to have your lower animal brain take over for self survival.
...and she had so much information on how they use mind control..and how they split people up in their heads so they can control them easier.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by gabby2011
This is just another type of mind control, telling people stories about conspiracies and mind control and a lot of other scary things to put you in a condition of fear that causes your higher mental functions to cease and to have your lower animal brain take over for self survival.
...and she had so much information on how they use mind control..and how they split people up in their heads so they can control them easier.
There are probably twenty different radio shows you could listen to on the internet today talking about those things. You need to stop and trust God for a day and not think about imagined immediate life and death situations, to where you can do some clear thinking. You can't do that while listening to the salespersons' offerings of doom and gloom. Christianity is designed by God to make us not dwell on those things because we don't care if we live or die as long as we know we will see Jesus later.
edit on 27-1-2012 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
The Bible does portray the Trinity, it just doesn't use that word. You know what other word it doesn't use? Incarnation, but the Word of God became incarnate in Christ, correct? The Father is God, The Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God, and God is one. The Son and Spirit proceed from the Father, who is the Godhead. Christ is the Word and Wisdom of God, which means he is tied to the Father in essence, but is sent forth. In Hebrew thought, the Word of God, though subordinate was also autonomous, "So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth; It shall not return to Me void, But it shall accomplish what I please, And it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it." You also mistake the Holy Spirit for the energies of God, this is Pnuematomachianism. Spirit is a living thing. The Holy Spirit also proceeds from the Father, subordinate in position, but acts specifically as the comforter and the Life permeating the Church. Remember that "the Holy Spirit descended in the form of a dove". In conclusion, The Father is the source of Word and Spirit, His Word and Spirit are also God, but they are distinct persons. The Sun in order to be the Sun is form, light, and heat. Without light, it is a heater; without heat, it is a lightbulb; without form, it is nothing. Most importantly, unitarianism is wrong because God is love. Love cannot exist in a singularity, but among persons. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are a consubstantial hypostasis; the existence of Love. The Son and Spirit are subordinate in roles, but not in position or essence, because to do that is to divide God. What separates God from an idol? He acts (Logos;word) and He has breath; Spirit.
Originally posted by honestyblaze
reply to post by autowrench
The Bible does not at any point portray a 'Triune', or 'Trinity'. God is unique & distinctly separate from Jesus. He is his Father, He cannot be his own Son. Nor can Jesus be his own Father. A little common sense goes a long way... The Holy Spirit is God's 'reason' for doing ANYTHING. It is not a separate entity.
Originally posted by gabby2011
reply to post by autowrench
There are many Christians who DO NOT do the will of God, and indeed are under the influence of evil spirits..
BUT..to blame the Holy trinity and call the Holy Spirit a demon is going beyond the shortcomings of Humans.
Like I said before autowrench..worry about your own soul.. because I fear your pride will blind you to the truth and mercy of God when the time comes for His great warning, and sign for conversion.
How dare you think you have the divine knowledge of God, but can't even acknowledge that you need the grace and mercy of God...and refuse to see the authenticity of what Jesus did for souls.
You have the right to believe what you want autowrench.. but if you think you can admonish members because they are concerned about your salvation.. then you need to back off trying to teach people your lies...and blaspheming the Holy Spirit.
.. so don't EVER EVER try and tell me its BS and another form of mind control.
. . . but the Word of God became incarnate in Christ, correct?
Originally posted by autowrench
The way this thread has gone, I must say once again, my point in THIS thread is surely been proven.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by gabby2011
.. so don't EVER EVER try and tell me its BS and another form of mind control.
Now I see how the other posters get annoyed by you.
I never said it was (whatever word you used in profanity). I said listening to stories of it is toxic to your ability to think right. And while I'm at it, though it is real, just like I said it was real, the telling of it is done in such a way that it becomes fictional by throwing a lot of wild speculation.
For example, I was listening to a show two nights ago and the host was saying, "have guns and ammo and water and food stored". This is on the surface, a reasonable precaution but the way he said it conjures up visions of a road warrior scenario which is another boogeyman mind control tool, while all along he was warning of mind control from the illuminate or whoever.
. . . my apologies for misunderstanding what you meant.
right autowrench.. your point has not been proven.
you think you can knock others and their beliefs , and open their eyes to the REAL truth, when in reality you admonish others for trying to open your eyes.
Originally posted by autowrench
I myself believe in the Goddess. she was worshipped for some 40,000 years before the Church, and she answers everyone of my prayers. She is the Mother of all Gods, it has been said, and She will rule in the next world. The male Gods of the Bible were no more than Annunaki and other ETs vying for power and influence, and seeking to control the people, which they did. Soon this World will end. We will ascend to the 5th Dimension, those who wish to go. I'm going, gabby, I will not be standing here on Earth waiting patiently for someone to come save me. Have fun in your Afterlife.