Mass Die Offs? Nothing to see here...move along...

[color=gold]It all started with the Bees

Birds and Fish

But there is more

The Improbable Causes

A Theory

The Big Question


Once or twice a year, I look at a phenomenon that is on the increase and spend a little time searching for info, causes and effect.

In the spirit of Extreme Weather? Nothing to see here...move along... , Mass Die Offs are increasing to the point where it deserves a thread.


NOTE: This thread is NOT meant as fear mongering but meant as a very serious concern for discussion.

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Hello Fellow friends...

And Welcome, once again, to my way of seeing things.

Mass Die Offs. I have been searching into this phenomenon for a while and I will admit that the real scenario being displayed behind what is publicly told is amazing at best and, very scary at worst.

What led me into this research for possible answers is an undeniable desire to find more than just explanations such as “heart attacks from fireworks” or “Mass Die Offs are a common thing”.

It never is an easy task to find reliable sources that are objective and unbiased. Obviously it is easy to fall prey to conspiracy sources that depict the picture as an incoming Sixth Extinction Event.

Unfortunately...my opinion is that this picture might not be far from the truth...you be the judge...



[color=gold]IT ALL STARTED WITH THE BEES




Remember this quote from Einstein?

“If the bee disappears from the surface of the earth, man would have no more than four years to live. “

Problem is, the famed physicist never said it.

Err...what??

That’s right. But it really does sound frightening if it comes from Einstein’s mouth, doesn’t it?

www.thedailygreen.com...



Nevertheless, bees disappearing have been the first alarm signal and still are a complete mystery. The scientific community agrees that the consensus on this phenomenon is that bees suffer from Colony Collapse Disorder or more commonly referred to as CCD.

Honey bees are disappearing. The story has been in the news on and off since 2006, but for one reason or another, most people have paid little attention. And the situation is significantly dire.

Colony collapse disorder (CCD), also known as honey bee colony depopulation syndrome, is essentially the sudden disappearance of honey bees from their colony. As more and more bees disappear, the colony fails and ultimately dies.

inspiredeconomist.com...


So they suffer from a syndrome. OK. I had read about that on North American sites and knew that it was affecting our bee colonies in Canada, the U.S and parts of Europe.


But then the U.N. announced that it became a World Wide phenomenon...

UN report warns bees now disappearing worldwide

But scientists from the United Nations (UN) say the phenomenon is now a global crisis, afflicting bees across China, Japan, and Africa, as well as in other places.

theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com...


Allright...worldwide CCD it is...but what causes this?


From Wiki:

The cause or causes of the syndrome are unknown.

en.wikipedia.org...


Really helpful...Thank you...

I will try and evocate a possibility down below under “A Theory”.

But for now, let us look at what the MSM shares with us, other than bees. Not a secret anymore...


[color=gold]BIRDS




[color=gold]AND FISH




Hard for the MSM and the scientists not to mention them when they either fall from the sky all over the place or wash up on shores and marinas all over the world.

As you are well aware of this phenomenon, and if not – just enter “bird die off” or “fish die off” in the ATS Search function for dozens and dozens of threads – I will only address one regular comment:

“It’s a common thing...”

If you do a google search about bird or fish die offs, you will find dozens of articles that tell you that mass die offs is a regular thing, a common occurrence year after year...nothing to see here really...move along...

Problem is:

Why are the scientists so stumped every time it happens??

No, seriously! If it’s such a regular and common thing, why do they have to research into it every time, since they don’t know what’s behind it? Shouldn’t they know, since it’s common and regular?

Well...it could be that it varies. Case by case. Depending on the species and conditions of the die off. True. So they analyse...

Right?

Problem is:

Have any of you seen an official report of ANY of these analysis??

Thought so.

See, it can’t be both. Either it’s a common and regular thing since you know what is causing it OR it isn’t that common and regular and you have to find out what is happening, through research.

Can’t have both.

So in the meantime, since they don’t have a single clue as to what is happening, (or maybe they do and they won’t tell you) they give you all these stupid reasons, these stupid causes they know you won’t follow through. You’re too busy elsewhere anyway. Hey look! Brad and Angelina just adopted a twentieth child...how sweet...who cares about the dozens and dozens of pelicans that just died...

I will discuss these scientific satires in the part below called “The Improbable Causes”.

Birds and Fish...ok...heard about them heart attack stricken flying zombies and those millions of dumb fish that ran out of oxygen...

Yet, if only it stopped with birds and fish...


[color=gold]BUT THERE IS MORE


(I am not posting a picture on this part of the thread. Too graphic and too disturbing. If you search a bit, you’ll find them.)

So...

Yeah, there are a lot of things that I wasn’t aware of until I looked into it...so I wondered...

If I search a little deeper...are there any other mass die offs that we aren’t being told about?


YOU BET THERE IS!!!


CRICKETS
www.msnbc.msn.com...

COWS AND BUFFALOS
www.huffingtonpost.com...

SEALS
lincolncountynewsonline.com...

FROGS AND SALAMANDERS
www.sciencedaily.com...

BATS
www.dailyfinance.com...

PENGUINS
www.heraldnet.com...

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ANTELOPES
www.fauna-flora.org...

WHALES
www.msnbc.msn.com...

POLAR BEARS
www.world-science.net...

DOLPHINS
www.idw.org...


It’s sickening...isn’t it?


I’ll stop here but you might want to look further for yourself...earthworms, crabs, spiders, octopus, jelly fish, butterflies, snakes, pelicans, starfish and much much more...

The scientific community is looking into this VERY seriously. While they feed you with...


[color=gold]THE IMPROBABLE CAUSES


This part of the thread is simply an interlude. You know what those causes and reasons are...you know...you hear about another mass die off...and then you hear the explanation...and then you go...





So, for your pure entertainment only.


I got those from Rense and they gave me a good laugh so I’m just highlighting a few of them...

Enjoy...

1/22/11 Hundreds of penguins dying near Wellington at Banks Peninsula, NZ
[color=gold]"It got too cold for them."

1/21/11 10,000 cattle and and buffalo die in Vietnam.
[color=gold] "It got too cold for them too."

1/18/11 200 Cows found dead on a farm in Portage County, Wisconsin.
[color=gold] "They caught pneumonia."

1/17/11 Hundreds of crows are once again dying off in Romania.
[color=gold] "Cold and alcoholic intoxication."

1/8/11 8000 turtledoves drop from the sky dead in Faenza, Italy.
[color=gold] "They ate too many sunflower seeds."

1/5/11 50 dead jackdaws found dead in Falkoping, Sweden
[color=gold] "Darned fireworks again."

1/3/11 1000's of dead octopuses wash up on Portugal beaches.
[color=gold] "Beat us. But don't eat them."

1/3/11 Tens of thousands of small fish die in the Chesapeake Bay.
[color=gold] "The forgot to swim to where it was warmer. They got cold."

12/28/10 70 bats found dead in Tuscon, Arizona
[color=gold] "They forgot to migrate."

5/28/10 12,000 Saiga Antelope (1/4 of world population) in Kazakhstan.
[color=gold] "A strange white fog caused lung infection."

If you believe any of this...I have a bridge to sell...

Read more here: www.rense.com...



Sometimes...some things are better left unsaid...

Disclaimer – “Deny Ignorance” is an ATS motto and is NOT endorsed by the MSM.


[color=gold]A THEORY





Let us look at the present state of affairs. There have been tremendous changes over the last century. We have done a lot of damage in a little more than a hundred years.

For any of you that remember the eighties, you will acknowledge that scientists back then were already talking of soon reaching a point of no return. As the population and industry grows, so does the damage.

Nowadays, we pollute more than ever before. We consume more than ever before. There have been many warning signs over the last thirty years but we blindly continued to contribute to climate change.

As we’ve reached the mark of seven billion people living on this small blue dot, the perspectives for the future are amazing at best, scary at worst.

We have contributed to poisoning the very air we breathe, the water we drink, the food we eat. We have contributed to adding nightmare scenarios to the climate changes, we contributed to destroying the ozone and now – and this is where it gets nasty – we have contributed to punch holes in our magnetic field, the very field that protects us from the poisons of space and radiations of the sun.

NASA THEMIS discovers biggest breach of Earth’s Magnetosphere

www.realufos.net...


I will post the video (for those of you that have the possibility of watching vids) down in the conclusion section below.

Earth's Magnetic Fields May Be Causing Bird and Fish Die-Off

Magnetic storms can cause many different phenomena to occur. Not only do birds, such as the reported blackbirds, pelicans, penguins and eagles, lose their bearings and fall dead from exhaustion and hunger, but radio transmissions can be lost, there can be radiation from too much solar power, and high-energy charged particles can bombard the Earth due to the breach in the magnetic "shield" wrapping the planet.. Magnetic storms can also trigger changes in the Earth's crust, which may lead to increases in landslides, mudslides, earthquakes, and volcano eruptions.

Now we get to the heart of the problem. This is what the scientific community is looking at very seriously and let me emphasize on this once more:

there can be radiation from too much solar power, and high-energy charged particles can bombard the Earth due to the breach in the magnetic “shield” wrapping the planet...

Because of this, magnetic storms trigger changes in the Earth’s crust which increases earthquakes and volcano activity...my other thread on Weather Extremes shows that there have been increases in every single weather phenomena; this is a cold hard fact.


What about the fish?

sea creatures such as sharks, crabs, salmon, and sea turtles not only use magnetic fields to navigate, but also to detect their prey. So it is entirely possible that some of the recent deaths of not only fish, but sea animals like starfish and dolphins are due to changes in the Earth's magnetic fields

donna-pravel.suite101.com...


Starting to see a picture?

The failing Magnetosphere is introducing radiation that causes the ecosystem to slowly but surely degrade and most probably, eventually, end up being very catastrophic. It is presently causing unknown viruses and syndromes that attack and kill cattle, antelopes, bats and other species that were NOT on a list of endangered species.

Now, if you have followed through on my line of thinking...this whole theory logically leads to....

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[color=gold]THE BIG QUESTION





Will this affect us humans eventually?

I am not a scientist and it is very difficult to comprehend the relation between the magnetosphere and/or the magnetic field AND humans. If it affects the ecosystem and other species, I would only think that...we are a species too. Hard to say. But there are articles and videos out there that do talk about it.

Magnetic Storms Affect Humans As Well As Telecommunications

Dr Tamara Breus has been studying this problem with astronauts:

"We have analyzed numerous data on the heartbeat of cosmonauts from all Soyuz crews, and the majority of missions to the Mir Station and the International Space Station," said Doctor Tamara Breus (Physics and Mathematics) from the Russian Academy of Sciences' Institute of Space Studies, who heads of a group of physics and physicians, studying this problem.

"We subjected 45 cosmonauts to examination during landing and flights of various duration, when they were exposed to geomagnetic disturbance, and then studied the same parameters in a neutral situation,” he said.

"The influence of a magnetic storm was obvious. It was manifest in a change of pulse and blood pressure, vegetative disorders, reduction of heartbeat rate variability and the power of respiratory undulations, and in a more irregular heartbeat pattern. Reactions varied depending on the duration of the flights and an ability of cosmonauts to adapt themselves to the new environment."

www.spacedaily.com...


Interesting. Seems that it does affect humans. If only slightly. For the moment. But how long will it be before it gets worse? Is the Magnetosphere going to repair itself on its own? What about the solar storms coming in 2012 when the sun is in its 11 year cycle?

Undoubtedly there are questions...and probabilities...

Underground bunkers...

Seed Vault...

FEMA Camps and preparedness of other camps worldwide...


Will this melting pot of doom really affect us humans eventually?

Who’s to say? As I said, I am not a scientist. But I have found two that did share their thoughts...


Dr James Lovelock

en.wikipedia.org...


A fascinating article he wrote in 2006 states:

The climate centres around the world, which are the equivalent of the pathology lab of a hospital, have reported the Earth's physical condition, and the climate specialists see it as seriously ill, and soon to pass into a morbid fever that may last as long as 100,000 years. I have to tell you, as members of the Earth's family and an intimate part of it, that you and especially civilisation are in grave danger.

-SOURCE HERE-


Professor Frank Fenner

en.wikipedia.org...

Frank Fenner sees no hope for humans

"We're going to become extinct," the eminent scientist says. "Whatever we do now is too late."
Fenner is an authority on extinction. The emeritus professor in microbiology at the Australian National University played a leading role in sending one species into oblivion: the variola virus that causes smallpox.

www.theaustralian.com.au...

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Doesn’t look good. That point of no return is long gone. There’s no going back. Too late.


But is it really happening now?

Happening Now?

Today, many scientists think the evidence indicates a sixth mass extinction is under way. The blame for this one, perhaps the fastest in Earth's history, falls firmly on the shoulders of humans. By the year 2100, human activities such as pollution, land clearing, and overfishing may have driven more than half of the world's marine and land species to extinction.

science.nationalgeographic.com...


So...How long do we have?

No one knows. Months. Years. Decades. Centuries. Milleniums. Your guess is as good as mine.


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[color=gold]Videos of interests








James lovelock; Climate change and mass human die-off


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Thank you for your time. Comments pro or con are welcome.


~Son.

Many thanks for your time in researching this. When looked at individually, these die offs don't even register with most people. But when you put it all together like this . . . . very, very disturbing. I have an organic vegetable operation - and massive amounts of perennial flowers over many acres. If you ever want to find a healthy bee, butterfly, bird . . . just come to my farm. No pesticides, chemicals - ever - anywhere! S & F for you - wish more people cared!

Good thread. I think that it is a combination of things, from leaks/fluctuation of the magnetosphere, ozone depletion, the magnetic pole is moving 35 miles a year towards Russia (if memory serves correct), the Earth belching forth tremendous amounts of methane gas.

Plus the man made causes, such as that Texas sized garbage patch in the Pacific, Fukashima & Chernybol likely have a cumulative effect and of course Fracking. The list could go on…and does.

But I don’t think that mankind will go extinct anytime soon, we may not evolve at a rapid rate, but we do adapt well to circumstances surrounding us which will eventually lead to further evolution.

Also we are discovering new species all the time which could replace the ones which are going extinct. Notice, I said could, not would, only time will tell.

This is the kind of thread I like to see. S&F!

S & F

I really enjoyed reading this thread, and it reminded me of the way I felt all last year when I kept going, "mmmm Riiiiiiiiiiighhhht". I have always figured that something major was/is occurring, whether dealing with the whole 2012 phenomenom or not...

People like to remain in denial that these strange events are in no way by accident or chance; something wicked this way is truly coming....

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Thank you for your kind words.

It is true that we no longer focus on what is essential. Sad, really.

And Congratulations for your farm !!!

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I think that it is a combination of things, from leaks/fluctuation of the magnetosphere, ozone depletion, the magnetic pole is moving 35 miles a year towards Russia (if memory serves correct), the Earth belching forth tremendous amounts of methane gas.

Plus the man made causes, such as that Texas sized garbage patch in the Pacific, Fukashima & Chernybol likely have a cumulative effect and of course Fracking. The list could go on…and does.

An Amazing Melting Pot O'Doom....

I don't know how long we have either. Could be soon...or not. No idea. All I know is that it isn't looking good. But there is always hope that Life will always find a way.

Thank you for your reply !

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Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight......

Same here! I am always shocked at the explanations given through the MSM...

I'm glad you enjoyed the thread !



P.S. It could very well be that something wicked this way comes. And it ain't Niburu...

Off to work soon but I will be back to discuss.

Be Well and have a Great Day !!

Great thread with many points to ponder.

I've often wondered how many animal and insect deaths we don't hear about and you outlined this phenomenon quite well. The only thing I can't agree with are the jellyfish die offs because in Florida we're seeing a boom of them, which I don't believe is a good sign either. I think anything dying or multiplying in extremes should be considered as part of this conundrum.

This will certainly be an interesting year and hopefully we'll see some concrete answers as to what we can expect in the future. One thing we should keep our eyes on is the Extinction List. It seems that it's growing each year and every time an animal/insect/reptile/amphibian is removed from the list, there's five additions.

Want the facts?

Bee die offs are due to CCD, Caused by manmade PESTICIDES.

Fish die offs are caused by either one of these three things.
first and most common, messed up oxygen levels in the water. That can literally kill hundreds of thousands of fish at the same time.
Second, any number of fish diseases.
Third and most unlikely, some type of chemical reaction in the water that kills fish.*Oil Spill, Chemical Dumping* *it takes a lot of chemicals and oil to kill those numbers of fish* *which is why i think the fish probably died due to disease.


Birds dying off? I have no explanation for that friends. Birds are scavengers? Maybe something they ate.

Nice insightful post. It's unfortunate that intelligence has to come with such a heavy price, even though these die offs might not even be the direct result of human causes. If we are indeed heading for a 6th mass extinction, I wonder if this will trigger the next step in our evolutionary path; if there is one at all. From millions of years of modification through descent, from early hominids to Homo sapiens, is it possible that we've reached our pinnacle?

It is a scary thought that the end of the road could be closer than we think, while at the same time some of us are just so oblivious to what's going on in the world.

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personally i don't think we've got a lot of time left. i think in the next 20 years it will be so evident no one can deny it. we're going down hill and every day we pick up a little more speed.

FANTASTIC JOB


This is something that has been bothering me since that first die off in Arkansas. Every time I saw a new article about another mass die off I cringed , I became interested in animals and how they use the Magnetic field and actually rely heavily on it.
People are starting to notice that it's too big to hide anymore....so this came out:

www.naturalnews.com...

I honestly think they exaggerate so our attention is diverted.

Thanks for a great presentation. S & F for you OP.

When you see a mass die off of pigs, be worried...

Perhaps we are looking for too big a reason, watching the programme the nature of things on obesogens. On how chemicals are causing hormones to mutate at the cell level.

If a chemical is leached in the environment and is not at the level to cause a quick human response it is dismissed as unimportant.

Perhaps there should be a demand on all research programmes that does studies on animals to verify any changes between the control group and the test group.

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, for this thread!!! I have been following the die offs that are continuing even as we read this. At first I was scared, really scared, then it seemed so unreal and life continued on, but I worried, what is causing it, what does it mean..... I began to feel stupid, like a miner in a coal mine holding a dead canary going; "Hey Guys, what does it mean when the canary dies?"

I think your conclusions about radiation are probably correct and make the most sense given the variety of locations and species.

The thing is, we can't leave the mine..........

At least we can talk about it and not pretend, like TPTB that it isn't happening. Thank you again, s&f multiple times, very well done!!

Please illustrate to me how in the hell humanity is the reason for the weakening magnetosphere. I appreciate the research you put into this thread and agree with a lot of it, but I don't understand you you can peg the weakening of the magnetoshpere on human activity