Something that bothers me!, page 1

Originally posted by zbeliever
On Thanksgiving Day my Uncle John said something that bothers me....So I thought I'd share it here on ATS...

I'll start by saying all my life Ive been taught to believe that when we die the great knowledge of the question of our existence would be answered...Or at least we would know more then we do now...

Here is what Uncle John said ,that got to me..."There is NO guarantee that we will receive any additional knowledge upon death...We may still have some sort of consciousness without any understanding."

I hope this is not the case....I feel nothingness would be better then unknowing...

I have to agree with your Uncle John. The overwhelming empirical evidence does suggest that he's right. What you create of yourself as you live from day to day is what you'll have of yourself after your corporeal brain has ceased working. I know that there are New Age teachers that insist that you'll be transformed into an all-knowing godlike being as soon as you clear the funeral parlor, but there's never been any ADC (After Death Communication) evidence that even hints to this being true. I suppose that you can assume that the evidence we have is specious or that only the "lower vibration" spirits are being picked up on by mediums or whatever you want to call people who insist that they can communicate with the dead, but if it is true that we all become transformed via the death process, then there's no means for anyone to remain locked in "lower vibrational" ignorance, since the existential transformation process would necessarily have to be fundamental and pervasive to the extent that it couldn't be refused as a conscious choice by the passing individual. The reason for this requirement is that no one actually can detail what it means to "choose" to not be transformed (other than vague assertions that amount to ritual adherence) or what the actual physics involved include that would flush one "spirit" with ultimate knowledge while denying another the same foundational reconfiguration.

Of course, you can just toss the god of your choice into the mix, but then you're simply walking off on the reality aspects of the whole issue and grabbing a sandwich. Not a valid examination of the issue at all, and just as valueless as the next religious assertion that someone else presents and that you fully reject as heresy or just plain foolishness.

The point is that anything that imposes a wholesale transformation on the average person by default (such as the "knowledge of all mysteries upon death's crossing-over event" transformation) can't be refused by the next person who passes, or chosen by the next person who passes. Such a wholesale reconfiguration of the only survivable aspect of a person (their personality, which is directly based on what they know, what they believe, what they think, and how they come to the conclusions that they come to) - if true - would be something that no one could ever escape from. And the most important thing about the imposition of such a default realignment is that each person's entire corporeal life would immediately be a complete waste of time and existential investment, since all humans would simply be exactly alike in acquired knowledge and wisdom, with no value associated with any amount of learning, perception discernment, experience, or judgment development that any person worked so hard to achieve. In short, corporeal life would be worthless and useless for all human beings. And that would be completely contradictory when compared to all other progressive development processes that exist within the corporeal realm.

Your Uncle is right, but that doesn't mean that the afterlife is something to dread. It's during this corporeal development stage of your overall existence that you're given the opportunity to figure out the basics of physical existence. The answers are all around you, and none are presented within the pages of theology or philosophy books. Right directly in front of you is where you start, and ignore the crap talk about all of this being an illusion. There are definite reality anchors to build from, and if it does matter to you, you'll be able to begin with a very strict process of elimination. As Sir Arthur Conan Doyle wrote, in the character of Sherlock Holmes - "...when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." And while it will never be that simple, a lot of the impossible is fairly easy to eliminate. You have years to eliminate the more damaging impossible notions, and the rest will either present direct linkage to what you know to be consistent and dependable, or it won't - and that'll be an important clue to pursue as well.