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Ron Paul has already lost!

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posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 04:15 AM
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Originally posted by survivalstation
reply to post by Littikani
 


Yeah, I love a good argument but I'm sorry, you noobs that come to ATS and think you're gonna change my mind just don't stand a laughing chance.


I am not trying to change your mind. I am asking Ron Paul fans to help change my mind.
All I get back in return is "Good! Go vote for someone else then."

Do any of you get how that whole voting thing works at all?
When did I try to change your mind about anything? Can you show me a post?

No, you cannot. Now can I get a response that makes sense?




posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 04:16 AM
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You shouldn't expect much from a bunch of fringe extremists and bigot lovers.

Paul is done.



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 04:18 AM
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Originally posted by Britguy

Originally posted by Littikani


You want our troops to come onto American soil and wage war against Americans they feel are the enemy?


It seems that the government has been doing just that for a long time now. Maybe not with troops, but with it's politicized alphabet agencies and thug police.


No kidding. So why would any sane person want to add to that?


Bringing in the military to put down further dissent is just the next step in an already failing system. I think more and more people are beginning to realise that the status quo of bought and paid for corrupt politicians, and out of control financial crimes against the people, is what is driving violent foreign and domestic policy, and they want change.


You must not be paying attention. The person I responded to claims to be a fan of Ron Paul AND wants our troops to come home and kill Americans.

Maybe re-read my post and their post?


Not the unkept promises of those in the system, but real change from someone with a solid and proven voting record, and not those who change their tune only for electoral gain.
I agree with the posters who say that more of the same WILL lead to inevitable conflict at some point. It's not that they are threatening it or even advocating it, but there has to come a tipping point that triggers it.


Actually what I responded to was a direct ad-vocation of the murder of fellow Americans. Read it a few times.



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 04:24 AM
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Originally posted by WhereAreTheGoodguys
Not sure what country you are from but they swore an oath when joing the military to protect the people from all enemys foriegn and DOMESTIC.




You guys are so #ing transparent. I know what happens next. 20 #ing posters all spam my ass and by taking the time to respond to all of you, next you will be counting my posts in this thread and calling me a troll for posting so much.

WHY ARE YOU ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL SO UP MY ASS?

I really hit a nerve in this thread huh? Not that idiot that said he wants our troops to come home and start blasting away at fellow Americans but me, because I do not worship Ron Paul. WOW.

Not sure what your point is about what they are sworn to do. That has nothing to do with what I responded to. It is like you are all robots that know how to hit reply and then no clue where to go from there.

CAN ANYONE RESPOND TO ME AND MAKE SENSE IN THIS THREAD?

The person I responded to is what I was responding to. That military oath has jack # to do with it.


If our politicians do not follow their oath of office and subvert our rights and commit treason the military and law enforcement are sworn to protect us. I personally know many who will.


Awesome, that has nothing to do with what I posted. Is there a reading comprehension problem in here? This is a lot of posts in response to me that make no sense compared to what I actually wrote. What the hell is going on??



And why does it scare you people want to be free.


I never said any such thing. Why would you make up something, pretend I said it, and argue against that?


People like you who want us to roll over and take it in the ass scare me.


You have no clue what you are talking about. You really think you will be more free with a domestic military police killing you?
OK



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 04:26 AM
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So this thread so far = If you do not worship Ron Paul blindly then American soldiers should kill you.

Wow, the liberty and freedom is just pouring out of this thread.



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 04:27 AM
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theres nothing more scary than Anti-ron paul people.



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 04:29 AM
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"You must not be paying attention. The person I responded to claims to be a fan of Ron Paul AND wants our troops to come home and kill Americans."

Again, could you please quote this where the person says "I want the soldiers to come home and kill americans" ???



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 04:39 AM
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Originally posted by BLKMJK
Could you please link me to where he said "He wants the troops to come back home to start killing Americans."?

Please quote his exact remark claiming this, I cannot seem to find it, thank you in advance.


Right here

Why do you need me to quote a post on this page that I just linked you to? How hard a time are you having reading one page? If you still cannot figure out where in that post he says it, feel free to ask again. You will notice it was not argued against by the person that said it so have fun defending that.



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 05:00 AM
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Originally posted by Littikani

Originally posted by stirling
Yer lookin at four years of rule direct from Kolob should Romney get in.....
Theres something sinister about that whole bunch......
If not Ron then, revolution.....
The last of the honourable military should come down on the bankers and crooked politicians, and war criminals and arreest the whole lot....
That would go a long ways to restoring the average americans faith in their govt, and military
Perhaps they could see about getting back some of the tens of trillions the fed ripped us off for too......


You want our troops to come onto American soil and wage war against Americans they feel are the enemy? You represent the type of people that support Ron Paul do you? I can hardly think of anything less American then having our troops fight on American land against other Americans.

Ron Paul fans are really really starting to scare me


Its in our oath, we protect against enemies both foreign and domestic. if the government is no longer being the voice of the people and doing as the majority of citizens wish than yes, they are enemies. this has nothing to do with the military coming in and just going to war with Americans. if the government no longer takes the side of the people than THEY are the enemy and THEY are the unpatriotic ones, no matter how much tv tells you otherwise.



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 05:05 AM
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Originally posted by Littikani

Originally posted by stirling
Yer lookin at four years of rule direct from Kolob should Romney get in.....
Theres something sinister about that whole bunch......
If not Ron then, revolution.....
The last of the honourable military should come down on the bankers and crooked politicians, and war criminals and arreest the whole lot....
That would go a long ways to restoring the average americans faith in their govt, and military
Perhaps they could see about getting back some of the tens of trillions the fed ripped us off for too......


You want our troops to come onto American soil and wage war against Americans they feel are the enemy? You represent the type of people that support Ron Paul do you? I can hardly think of anything less American then having our troops fight on American land against other Americans.

Ron Paul fans are really really starting to scare me



Seriously you must be getting paid to post sh** like that.
The only thing that will save America Is it's military restoring power to the
Right people that's a fact.



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 05:06 AM
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Originally posted by SGTSECRET
Its in our oath, we protect against enemies both foreign and domestic. if the government is no longer being the voice of the people and doing as the majority of citizens wish than yes, they are enemies. this has nothing to do with the military coming in and just going to war with Americans. if the government no longer takes the side of the people than THEY are the enemy and THEY are the unpatriotic ones, no matter how much tv tells you otherwise.


NO NO NO NO NO NO
You are attempting to change the premise of what SOMEONE ELSE wrote in order to argue against me for questioning what they actually said. That trick must really fool your kids but not me. Nothing you just wrote has anything to do with what that poster said.



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 05:08 AM
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Originally posted by jazzguy
theres nothing more scary than Anti-ron paul people.



Who are the anti- Ron Paul people?
Is anyone not blindly worshiping him anti him?
I came here with hopes for him and questions about him.
I have been nothing but insulted by people like you in response.
I am certainly leaning towards being anti-Ron Paul fans, that is for sure.
Not a polite one in the entire bunch so far and very few that can write out a full English sentence without tripping over their own delusional grasp of keyword politiking.



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by tombangelta
Seriously you must be getting paid to post sh** like that.


That I am not in favor of a civil war?
Yeah I get paid tons to say crazy # like that.



The only thing that will save America Is it's military restoring power to the
Right people that's a fact.


Oh, the right people eh? Who are the right people? I am guessing I am one of the wrong people and therefor should be killed by this military?

What an argument you are making. Some Americans are worthy of living, some are not, and you and Ron Paul are going to decide? And you all already let me know what list I will be on. Yeah, let me run right out and vote for that.

Ron Paul fans want me dead for not being the right kind of people, let's all vote for that!


Do you guys listen to yourselves?
I really wish Ron Paul would show up just to tell you all how much damage you do him.



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 05:39 AM
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you are spinning this totally out of context

Who said anything about killing innocent Americas,

I'm talking about the controlled arrest of individuals that do more harm to America than good
you make it sound like an invasion.

Go back to sleep.



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 05:44 AM
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Originally posted by tombangelta
reply to post by Littikani
 


you are spinning this totally out of context


Are all of you also Stirling? That is the person that wrote it and that is who I responded to. Why are the rest of you trying to tell me what I should be asking or responding with?


Who said anything about killing innocent Americas,


Stirling made a rather blanket statement. Who is going to decide guilt or innocence in his scenario? You? Ron Paul? The same corrupt legal system Stirling and you want gunned down in the streets? Who?


I'm talking about the controlled arrest of individuals that do more harm to America than good
you make it sound like an invasion.


Because YOU ARE NOT THE POSTER I WAS #ING RESPONDING TO. How many accounts do you have?



Go back to sleep.


Exactly. I have questions about Ron Paul so I should just go # myself. Thank you very much.



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 06:47 AM
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Originally posted by Littikani
Who are the anti- Ron Paul people?
Is anyone not blindly worshiping him anti him?


Yes.


I came here asking questions, too. The more I heard, the more I realized who I was dealing with.

I do think Ron Paul will lose. The GOP wants Romney and the majority of the voter base is not ready for someone as extreme as Paul.



Not a polite one in the entire bunch so far


They are a rare breed, but they do exist. You just have to seek them out, ask questions in private and hope for the best. Asking questions about Ron Paul is dangerous unless you're willing to throw in bits of praise and supplication as you do so... It's an art of sorts. I have completely lost the knack, but it doesn't matter anymore. I can get my questions answered elsewhere.



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 06:54 AM
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Ultimately, no one can speculate the turn out on election day when every American goes to the polls in November 2012.

I would like to see Ron Paul win but I think it's highly unlikely because a majority of Americans have still not woken up to whats going on around them inside their nation and what is really going on worldwide.

The Americans will get exactly what they deserve - and unfortunately the World will pay the price for the stupitity of dumb Americans. Not saying all Americans are dumb, but they are not exactly the most well educated and intelligent people on the face of the planet. It's called dumbing down the American education system and putting fear in them through their dishonest main stream media.



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 07:05 AM
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I know what happens next. 20 #ing posters all spam my ass and by taking the time to respond to all of you, next you will be counting my posts in this thread and calling me a troll for posting so much.


Umm nice try bub but you're already spamming the thread and we are not stupid we see what you are doing using this as an excuse to keep spamming. And I am another one that is glad you are scared of Ron Paul supporters you should be because they are people if action! They scare the hell out of the establishment. Oh and in case you hadn't heard they already passed a law allowing military to arrest American citizens and hold them indefinitely without trial so to try and act like Ron Paul supporters are scary in that regard is the height of ridiculousness. 12ers....sigh!



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 07:09 AM
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Oh yea Ron Paul supporters are such meanies...Sigh! What a bunch of prevaricating whiners... Lol



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 07:24 AM
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Originally posted by Littikani

Originally posted by BLKMJK
Could you please link me to where he said "He wants the troops to come back home to start killing Americans."?

Please quote his exact remark claiming this, I cannot seem to find it, thank you in advance.



Right here

Why do you need me to quote a post on this page that I just linked you to? How hard a time are you having reading one page? If you still cannot figure out where in that post he says it, feel free to ask again. You will notice it was not argued against by the person that said it so have fun defending that.


LOL! Yeah, there is nothing to defend, just as I figured, you lied. What he said was.

"The last of the honourable military should come down on the bankers and crooked politicians, and war criminals and arreest the whole lot.... "

Arrest and Kill are two vastly different words. Good luck defending that! LMAO! Wow you really had a bad night eh? Go get some sleep. In the future why not stop with your BS misrepresentation of the facts. You sir have been BURNED!
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