'Western intelligence: Israel behind Iran bombs'

the US and Israel are controlled by the same people, so call it what you want CIA/Mossad whatever, it doesn't matter it's all the same thing coming from the same puppet master.

reply to post by daaskapital


Are they trying deflect blame? I wouldn't be surprised if they were trying to do that. Israel has been the escape goat for the US empire, all the blames are directed at Israel and then protected by US in the International arena, veto after veto. This would be a very good strategy in my opinion if true.

None the less, I said in a previous post that Israel and US would be the biggest suspect, considering their history and their intense hostilities towards Iran, and their agenda to stop Iran from "acquiring a nuclear weapon".

This isn't surprising to me, but interesting to see that it has been published by a US news agency. How quick will this be shoved under the carpet?

Western inteligence, lol, theres a contradiction. the only reason why they are saying that is because the UK and US are trying to save face. There is no way Isreal did this alone imo, the CIA was definately informed at the very least, and as such that makes them partly responsible imo.

Originally posted by daaskapital
Well, for those of you who criticised myself and others who reported on Iran's 'proof' that the CIA had staged the terrorist attacks in Iran, get this:

Get this ... Iran was WRONG - and so were all the Iran apologists . They said it was the USA. It wasn't. IF this information is correct then it was ISRAEL. And I'm willing to bet that all the information isn't in yet. This is a convoluted mess with MANY suspects .. Iran itself among them.

Originally posted by Tw0Sides
You wont believe this, but there are Hammer heads here , who thought Iran killed this guy.
"because that's what they do''

The Hammer-heads (to quote you) are those who think Iran is an innocent entity and not a deadly world player. THEY DO KILL THEIR OWN. That's a fact. Jeeeze .. what is it with you apologists? Don't you read ??

Originally posted by andy1972
Make's you wonder...if they can recruit so easily a couple of boneheads (by posing as CIA agents, with false american passports and big wads of dollar bills) to whack an Irani nuke specialist, makes you think how easy it would be to -

POSE AS CIA AGENTS AND RECRUIT 19 BONEHEADS TO TAKE 3 PLANES HOSTAGE AS PART OF AN EXERCISE.

Lets not forget Mossad's signature - BY WAY OF DECEPTION SHALT THOU DO WAR.

edit on 15-1-2012 by andy1972 because: (no reason given)

Israeli Mossad agents posed as CIA officers in order to recruit members of a Pakistani terror group to carry out assassinations and attacks against the regime in Iran, Foreign Policy revealed on Friday, quoting U.S. intelligence memos.

Foreign Policy’s Mark Perry reported that the Mossad operation was carried out in 2007-2008, behind the back of the U.S. government, and infuriated then U.S. President George W. Bush.

Link

Proofs? What proofs? Which court were the assasins trialed and convicted?

All I see was speculations and more speculations, worsed - comming from supposed 'classified' files. Heck! Seems like any hate mongral can term what info they don't have as 'classified' documents. These you call proofs? This is ATS?

Careful of the hatred manipulation being played. It's ok to speculate, but please, DO NOT claim speculations as evidences.

Stick to facts and there will be peace. This isn't innoculous UFO, or paranormal experiences, etc. This here current situation is tinder hot. When rumours feed upon rumours, wars can be started. Those who wish to die can go ahead, but there are many more whom only seek for peace and to live in peace, and not be manipulated, for the gift of life is precious.

It's all speculation until the "proof" comes in. As if there is such a thing any more. What a tangled web they've all woven.

However, I find it interesting that Iran has chosen to use the funeral of the scientist to encourage the population to vote in the parliamentary elections coming up March 2nd instead of boycotting them, as the opposition has suggested that the majority do. Does anyone else find it interesting that Ahmadinejad just happened to have left town the day before this assassination?

www.dailymail.co.uk...

news.nationalpost.com...

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by daaskapital
Well, for those of you who criticised myself and others who reported on Iran's 'proof' that the CIA had staged the terrorist attacks in Iran, get this:

Get this ... Iran was WRONG - and so were all the Iran apologists . They said it was the USA. It wasn't. IF this information is correct then it was ISRAEL. And I'm willing to bet that all the information isn't in yet. This is a convoluted mess with MANY suspects .. Iran itself among them.

Originally posted by Tw0Sides
You wont believe this, but there are Hammer heads here , who thought Iran killed this guy.
"because that's what they do''

The Hammer-heads (to quote you) are those who think Iran is an innocent entity and not a deadly world player. THEY DO KILL THEIR OWN. That's a fact. Jeeeze .. what is it with you apologists? Don't you read ??

Excuse me Mr Hammerhead but I wish to point out the obvious, the US KILLS IT'S OWN TOO!!!! And that is a fact as well!!

Originally posted by stevcolx
Excuse me Mr Hammerhead

I'm not a mister ... nor a hammerhead.

the US KILLS IT'S OWN TOO!!!! And that is a fact as well!!

Sure. So what?

Take note ... you said the word 'TOO' ... so you admit that Iran kills it's own and that it's entirely possible that they did that in this case?? Think carefully before you answer. ( I love fried fish - hammerhead especially - in the morning!)

If most of these assassinations were done in broad daylight, how come we never hear what kind of motorcycles these assassins were using?

In other cases, European companies sell advanced technology to IRGC companies for huge infrastructure projects in a no-bid context: Austrian Andritz VA Tech Hydro, Finnish Po?r?, and German KTI-Plersch are all involved in different technical aspects of dam building in Iran – and all list IRGC companies as their clients. Not all deals involve dual use technology – but by dealing with the IRGC, European companies help them flourish economically. Such examples are not confined to the civilian sector.

IRGC units carrying RPG launchers for hit-and-run action routinely ride Japanese Honda and Austrian KTM motorbikes;

Iran’s military employs Italian-made IVECO trucks as missile launchers; the IRGC uses Mercedes trucks for its transports and mounts machine guns on Toyota Land Cruisers. Not the best flattery, for Western products.

www.biu.ac.il...

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Everyone does it. But it's not an excuse to start a war. Because as usual when NATO (North Atlantic Terrorist Organization) get stuck in, the deaths they cause far outweigh what any government has done to it's people.

Look at what happened in Libya. The media said that NATO bombed sites of strategic significance to stop Gadaffi's regime. No they didn't! They bombed schools, homes, hospitals, mosques and killed hundreds of thousands of people. INNOCENT PEOPLE!!

That's what is going to happen to Iran. Same as Iraq! Innocent people are going to die in droves of hundreds of thousands when they start their 'strategic' strikes!!

Back to the toipic. Iran didn't bomb someone they needed to create their Nuclear fuel. Someone outside did. Israeli Mossad or US CIA which is basically the same thing.

It's all more BS to provoke a fight. And Israeli Zionist controlled US, UK and EU love to provoke.

Originally posted by stevcolx
Back to the toipic.

yes please!

Iran didn't bomb someone they needed to create their Nuclear fuel.

Why do you think he was the only one who could do it?
Why do you think he was still needed?
Why do you think they'd still want him and trust him after he talked to the IAEA?
Why do you think they'd pass up an opportunity to get rid of a 'traitor' at the same time
pinning the death on someone else? It would make huge political capital.
AND It would match their M.O. perfectly.

Someone outside did. Israeli Mossad or US CIA ...

Israel. USA. Saudi Arabia. DOZENS of other countries who are not happy with Iran having nukes.
It could have bene a lot of groups or countries ..... INCLUDING IRAN. They do it all the time.
To claim that someone is a 'hammerhead' because they see the truth of that .. that's just immature.

reply to post by FlyersFan


But Iran doesn't have NUKES!!

Their neighbours do! If they want to develop Nukes that's up to them. Why can't they have nukes too? Why? Because the cowards surrounding them don't want them to be able to defend themselves when they get invaded!!

Originally posted by stevcolx
reply to post by FlyersFan

 

But Iran doesn't have NUKES!!

Their neighbours do! If they want to develop Nukes that's up to them. Why can't they have nukes too? Why? Because the cowards surrounding them don't want them to be able to defend themselves when they get invaded!!

Enrichment of uraniam at 20% grade, which is over and above the 3.5% grade only needed for energy, is more than what they had claimed and duped the world its use for. At 20% it wouldnt make the perfect nuke, but is enough to make several dirty bombs that can cause a lot of pain currently.

Nuclear energy? Where are the infrastructures of nuke energy to supply to the population, afterall, they had long acheived 3.5% grade?

Is this another Cold War, or did it the old one just migrate? It looks like the clandestine operators are going to have their hands full trying to limit the number of thug countries with nukes. Hows that EMP project coming along?

Originally posted by forklift

Originally posted by andy1972
Make's you wonder...if they can recruit so easily a couple of boneheads (by posing as CIA agents, with false american passports and big wads of dollar bills) to whack an Irani nuke specialist, makes you think how easy it would be to -

POSE AS CIA AGENTS AND RECRUIT 19 BONEHEADS TO TAKE 3 PLANES HOSTAGE AS PART OF AN EXERCISE.

Lets not forget Mossad's signature - BY WAY OF DECEPTION SHALT THOU DO WAR.

edit on 15-1-2012 by andy1972 because: (no reason given)

Israeli Mossad agents posed as CIA officers in order to recruit members of a Pakistani terror group to carry out assassinations and attacks against the regime in Iran, Foreign Policy revealed on Friday, quoting U.S. intelligence memos.

Foreign Policy’s Mark Perry reported that the Mossad operation was carried out in 2007-2008, behind the back of the U.S. government, and infuriated then U.S. President George W. Bush.

Link

Israel infuriated the Bush regime because the Israeli's were jumping the gun, drawing too much attention to themselves, getting careless. Everything has a timescale which has to be stuck to, and mossad probably was'nt sticking to it..
And why would Mossad have to inform Washington(quote - " going behind the back of the U.S. government) that it's agent's were posing as CIA operatives.
It's like a hitman saying to his victim "tommorow i'm going to kill you...if you have time of course, if not i can do it saturday??"

Why would Mossad have to inform Bush of it's actions..would Panetta ring Jerusalem to say " Hey guy's, tommorow 4 of my guy's will pose as Mossad to recruit Arabs in the U.S...do you mind ??"

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At least, Bush went in public like a real man to start invasion.

Are you kidding me!? Lying about weapons of mass destruction, outing CIA operatives, and on and on and on, the list is so long...............................!

reply to post by daaskapital


I wouldn't be surprised, the Mossad are always instigating things in that region. Espionage occurs at all levels of society and it hurts that they are paying Iranian scientists to look into their government. I think the Israelis and CIA are very paranoid about Iran. I highly doubt Iran even has enough money to make nuclear weapons, its all a stage for their oil as well.

Good! My feeling is that those people helping Iran to create a nuclear bomb, are open targets. Remember everyone, Iran wants to blow up the west with nukes, so....shouldn't we all thank Israel for slowing down their progress in the development of such deadly technology?