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reply posted on 15-1-2012 @ 09:41 PM by kazanoom
Originally posted by BO XIAN
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You've offered pseudo science and a theological argument. You'll have to do better than that.




Uhhhhhhh . . . how, exactly . . . is the OP stuff MORE credible?

T'ain't as far as I can tell.

And, logically, is a LOT LESS credible given all the givens of multidimensional reality.


Ohh I must be owned, you posted a silly picture. What next, are you going to hurl spit wads at me? Did you even watch the video? Maybe you should check out Brian Weiss, but wait, he's another dumb doctor, what does he know.


reply posted on 16-1-2012 @ 03:26 AM by NuclearPaul
Originally posted by nh_ee
I read the book about James Leininger entitled "Soul Survivor".

As a former pilot and aviation buff...this 4-5 year old kid knew more about aviation and planes than most adults do.

This isn't collective consciousness....this is knowledge that ONLY a pilot would understand.
Neither of his parents of relatives were pilots or even knowledgeable of aircraft and/or aviation.


I've had the same dream at least 10 times of being shot down in a fighter. It seemed very real, especially the feeling of a mask on my face and my back burning. I felt very guilty about someone behind me who I knew was already dead because I felt responsible for them.

When I was fourteen, my Mum took me to Gawler airfield to go up in a glider. This glider had its own small engine, so didn't need to be towed up, and the two occupants sit next to each other. The guy who took me up asked me if I had ever flown before and I told him I hadn't.

When we got up to around 3,000ft, he shut the engine off and we started gliding around. I asked him about the controls, and after a brief description, he let me take the controls while verbally giving me instructions.

I remember vividly to this day how I lined up the runway to land. I expected him to take the controls to land, but he looked at me like he was actually considering letting me land it. He then said "I better take it from here" and landed it.

When we landed, he spoke to my Mum about how I was a "natural" and asked her how mwny times I had flown (thinking I couldn't hear him from where I was). When my Mum told him it was my first flight, he openly told her that he didn't believe her.

Also, I went to a psychic when I was 21 who told me that in my previous life I had been a pilot and was shot down in the Vietnam war.


reply posted on 16-1-2012 @ 06:55 AM by WWu777
Reincarnation and past lives are compelling in many cases. But there are logistical problems with it. Let's suppose it's true. Then there would be other problems:

1. Why do some have past life memories, but most don't? Do only some reincarnate but not others?

2. What if a fetus is born, but no "souls" want to enter it? Then what?

3. Wouldn't all souls want to be born into beautiful rich families with a good life? Who would choose to be born in a war-torn country in poverty? Do souls even get a choice? If not, then who chooses? Some intelligent forces or random ones?

4. Since the world population 30 years ago was half of what it is today, where do all the "extra souls" come from? Are they new souls? Are they souls from other planets or dimensions? Or from animals and insects? If from animals and insects, then where are the souls replenishing the evolving ones coming from? Is there a first life? Or does our past have no beginning?

A lot of reincarnation believers use the "souls coming from other planets/dimensions" explanation, but that sounds like a convenient copout since anyone can just say that. But even if we take that explanation, then where are the souls replacing the migrating souls coming from? Wouldn't there have to be new souls entering in at some point, unless the population of souls always remained the same?

5. Since there are far more insects and plants then humans and animals, then would that mean that in your next life, your chances of coming back as an insect or plant are far infinitely greater than coming back as a human? If so, then no one would look forward to their "next life" would they? Or do humans only reincarnate as other humans or higher? Can an animal reincarnate as a human? If so, then couldn't it work the other way around? Buddhists believe so, but then again, you'd have the logistical problems above.


reply posted on 16-1-2012 @ 08:28 AM by Rapha
Originally posted by WWu777
1. Why do some have past life memories, but most don't? Do only some reincarnate but not others ?

timenolonger.ning.com...
'In this day we hear quite a bit from the New Age community on "ascended masters". This concept is a very old one but the term and it's present popularity began with Helena Petrovna Blavatsky, founder of Theosophy and the Theosophical Society. The basic idea of this belief is that these ascended masters have lived successive lives in multiple incarnations on the earth, gaining knowledge as they proceed to a point of great enlightenment at which time they are considered masters and teachers of humanity. It is further believed in certain occult circles that at the point at which a reincarnated soul reaches this status they are able to retain and recall the memories of their various past lives.

The "Illumined" Luciferian or Illuminati concept of a Moon Child ties in closely with the concept of ascended mastery. A Moon Child ritual is a very dark and high level occult ritual which requires blood sacrifice, the goal of which is to call into a prenatal infant, a demonic entity which will not just possess, but displace the original spirit, and live out a mortal life in the body.
'

'if any half-angelic nephil were to repent during the course of a mortal life, they would possibly no longer continue to re-enter further physical lives (as the loss of memory from one physical life to the next might negate the decision to repent). Would this be some "unfair" advantage to nephilim? No..i don't think so..in a creature who was so thoroughly predisposed to evil at their first conception and must undergo (more or less) the entire learning process over and over again...it would remain much more difficult for one of these to come to a knowledge and acceptance of the truth, having an ever present influence of fallen spirits, if anything, the chances of repentance would decrease with each reincarnation.'

2. What if a fetus is born, but no "souls" want to enter it? Do souls even get a choice ?

The fetus will always be occupied. In these last days every nephil spirit (within the family blood-line) is fighting for a last chance to be born again with no memories. This allows them to stand a chance of being forgiven when they first believe that Jesus is there to save them from Hades or Tartarus.

3. Wouldn't all souls want to be born into beautiful rich families with a good life?

If you had one last chance to enter Heaven, would you throw away that opportunity because you would have to live a miserable mortal life in poverty before your physical body perishes ?

The nephilim now know (since the days of Jesus Christ) that their days are numbered.

4. Since the world population 30 years ago was half of what it is today, where do all the "extra souls" come from? Are they new souls?

From what I have learnt, spirits gain access to multiple planes that run parallel to this one in real time. These worlds can be accessed via dreams or astral travel. There are good/happy and dark/miserable dimensions.
With Judgement Day not far away many spirits are taking every opportunity they can get to be born into a new fetus so that they can repent while they are mortal. When Judgement Day occurs their worlds will be completely destroyed.

Are they souls from other planets or dimensions?

Only dimensions running parallel to this one.

Is there a first life?

Yes. Initially there were only humans on this planet. Then came the alien/fallen angels who created the nephilim.

Wouldn't there have to be new souls entering in at some point, unless the population of souls always remained the same?

Speculation: If there were 5 billion spirits and only 1 billion human bodies then the 4 billion spirits will have to wait until there is a body/fetus available. Once a soul (body + spirit) repents and dies they are removed to a containment world where they are kept safe until Judgement Day.


reply posted on 16-1-2012 @ 11:13 AM by The X
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Personally i have absolutely no doubt that re-incarnation is a fact of life.
In time you will be all those things you hate, all those things you hurt will in time be you.
I sometimes wonder if we are locked in this universe to reincarnate and play every single persons life out before we are allowed to transcend to another lifeverse.
As yet i have not seen anything that says we wont.
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