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Iran: We have proof US behind assassination

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posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by chrismarco
reply to post by daaskapital
 


How hard is it for any country to make up documents and what makes it credible? How to you validate such information if one country denies that the documents are false....


Yes indeed, so bout that irak war and its WMD's....

9/11?
J.F.K?

There is more !




posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 04:33 PM
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-I have a question, if Iran was building a nuclear bomb then they must already know that if they do they will be destroyed by a United States coalition for violation of the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) which means they are in the wrong WHICH IRAN HAS NOT TO THIS DATE BACKED OUT OF THE NPT which to me would mean either they just dont care about being obliterated and will make a nuke anyway, or (this may shock some people) THEY ARE NOT BUILDING A NUKE.
-North Korea withdrew from the Non-Proliferation Treaty, therefore could not be attacked by an international coalition for having nuclear bombs while still signed to the treaty, Iran has not done this.
-Israel is making the same outlandish accusations at Iran as they did toward Iraq which reports of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq have probably never been found and hardely nothing more in the news is heard about Iraqi WMDs.Thats something they just want people to forget about, the US invaded Iraq for no real given reason except Weapons of Mass Destruction which can be anything from a Nuclear Bomb to a couple of rusty grenades.



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by 11I11

US has proof Bin Laden is dead, but haven't released it to the public, so whats your point?


Exactly, and the proof that Osama masterminded 9-11 were 30 hammering days of portraying his face next to the burning towers on all TV channels from FOX to CNN.


Originally posted by Alexei

-I have a question, if Iran was building a nuclear bomb then they must already know that if they do they will be destroyed by a United States coalition for violation of the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) which means they are in the wrong WHICH IRAN HAS NOT TO THIS DATE BACKED OUT OF THE NPT


Treaties are set and broken by strong nations to be abided by the weak.

History shows that coalitions are opportunists and only attack when they're sure they'll make a kill at minimal cost. If Iran indeed has nukes it will be left alone, and from its strong nuclear position it'll pee on the NPT at will.
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posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 04:39 PM
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-I have a question, if Iran was building a nuclear bomb then they must already know that if they do they will be destroyed by a United States coalition for violation of the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) which means they are in the wrong WHICH IRAN HAS NOT TO THIS DATE BACKED OUT OF THE NPT which to me would mean either they just dont care about being obliterated and will make a nuke anyway, or (this may shock some people) THEY ARE NOT BUILDING A NUKE.


What is your question? Whether or not Iran is working on a bomb, the US will attack them the way they attacked Iraq if they want to. At least if they do develop a bomb, they can threaten retaliation, and make a case for being a permanent member of the UN Security Council.



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 04:45 PM
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Yes, it's the stupidest spin I ever read in this forum, but then again no one expects the yank to come even close to admit to their terrorist activities. U.S. liberated Iraq is now terrorist hell, the proof is in the pudding.


That war wasn't my idea, and you won't find me denying American wrong doing. I just find it odd that some people believe that the US government could kill thousands of its own citizens on 9/11, but that the Iranians are completely incapable of offing one of their own scientists. Now, shall we discuss what was really going on in Chechnya?



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 04:48 PM
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History shows that coalitions are opportunists and only attack when they're sure they'll make a kill at minimal cost.


You mean like the Hitler-Stalin non-aggression pact?


If Iran indeed has nukes it will be left alone, and from its strong nuclear position it'll pee on the NPT at will.


At least we can agree on something.



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by DJW001

Now, shall we discuss what was really going on in Chechnya?


What relevance does Chechnya have, which is geographically adjacent to Russia and politically an integral part of it including voting rights, with the U.S. waging resource wars on other sovereign countries 9,000 Kms away from its own borders?

I don't understand your comparison. Where's the simmilarity supposed to be?

But regarding your question of what's going on in Chechnya... what else than the anglos feeding an internal war against Russia? Just like they fed an nternal war in Lybia and now try to do the same trick in Syria, same tactic.

Why do you think Chechen units fought along Putin in the Georgian war?

Russia is the end game and the long-term booty, including Chechnya, that the anglo warring strategy eyes.
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posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 05:06 PM
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i'm curious though if you were to carry out a false flag , what documents and paper trial would be left? Seems kinda foolish and defeats the whole purpose ? You may as well just tell them it was you , if you leave a paper trial lol.


I'm starting to think this might have been an attempt to force Iran to fire the first shot.

Only time will tell.



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by DJW001
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History shows that coalitions are opportunists and only attack when they're sure they'll make a kill at minimal cost.


You mean like the Hitler-Stalin non-aggression pact?


Yes, Hilter was 100% sure he'd make a killing at minimal cost. And he was almost right USSR lost 24 million people, that's 14% of its population!

I don't sense the same kind of overconfidence from the U.S. war-mongers regarding Iran.

Nice try, but you need a different example if you think you can contradict me.
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posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 05:21 PM
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I'm starting to think this is Ahmadinejad's way of finally getting rid of his Intelligence Minister that he tried to fire back in April, but Khamenei reinstated. Then there's the sympathy card by announcing that 120 countries condemn this assassination and that it's Israel/U.S.'s first move toward declaring war against them. And let's not forget that they need to rally their population for the upcoming parliamentary elections taking place on March 2nd. I'm waiting for more talk to start coming out of Iran as to who's really going to be the ones to "protect" them. This may be more political positioning before the elections.



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 05:22 PM
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Although it would be very difficult to verify the authenticity of the document Iran is using to prove the link between the killing and the CIA, there is no doubt that America has some involvement in it. The amount of news coverage in the main stream media and alternative media on the murder of the scientist is concerning because it’s very similar to what the Americans were doing right before they attacked Iraq.

World war three is just about to begin? Thanks for the post, keep up the fight against the Globalists and New World Order.



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 05:37 PM
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Political intrigues and espionage are a higher level game than most people here can come to grips with. I am pretty sure that the Iranians know their own history well enough. But it seems like some of you are late to history class. Observe:


The Wikipedia page for the 1953 coup is quite extensive. Enjoy your history lesson folks! You won't see this on the western networks or in the western newspapers or the western magazines.
en.wikipedia.org...'%C3%A9tat
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posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by DJW001
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Iranian physicist doesn't talk to IAEA


Oh, but he did:


According to reports, Ahmadi Roshan had recently met International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors, a fact which indicates that the IAEA has leaked information about Iran's nuclear facilities and scientists


www.presstv.ir...

Are you calling presstv liars?


He met with them but didn't cough up anything substantial. Do you even know what you quoted? This implicates the West even more. The IAEA leaked personal information of the scientist, they also leaked other details that weren't supposed to be public knowledge.

Israel had the "details" of the report before it was even released which proves the IAEA is in the habit of leaking "information".



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 05:50 PM
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He met with them but didn't cough up anything substantial.


And you know this how?



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 05:58 PM
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The Wikipedia page for the 1953 coup is quite extensive. Enjoy your history lesson folks! You won't see this on the western networks or in the western newspapers or the western magazines.
en.wikipedia.org...'%C3%A9tat


You have to enter the correct information to find what you're looking for:

en.wikipedia.org...

I wish I could say "pft, everyone knows all about the "Mossadegh Coup." Unfortunately, they do not, so you have a point. Anyone who isn't intellectually challenged, however, can read all about it. Unlike certain countries, America actually does have freedom of the press, even if the commercial media tend run consumerist pablum. For people genuinely interested in the affair, I would recommend "All the Shah's Men: An American Coup and the Roots of Middle East Terror," by Stephen Kinzer.



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by real_one

The IAEA leaked personal information of the scientist, they also leaked other details that weren't supposed to be public knowledge.


The second has been publicly admitted which makes the first very plausible.



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 06:02 PM
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I hate this, its worse than the hype that Blizzard does before their game, like D3, just get the war going and stop talking about it.



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 06:10 PM
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I don't sense the same kind of overconfidence from the U.S. war-mongers regarding Iran.


You must be joking. We have a rabid fringe here that wants to lay Iran to waste. I think they're insane, but they could do it if we let them.


Nice try, but you need a different example if you think you can contradict me.


I was not contradicting you, I was taunting you. This will be my last exchange with you as it rapidly veering off topic. Do you really believe that when the US invaded Afghanistan it was "terrorism," but when Russian tanks rolled in it was at the request of the legitimate Afghan government for the good of the Afghan people? (Let's not even mention Prague, 1968!)

My point is: Iran murders its own citizens and lies about doing it. Governments do that. Iran is not the exception.



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by DJW001

Do you really believe that when the US invaded Afghanistan it was "terrorism," but when Russian tanks rolled in it was at the request of the legitimate Afghan government for the good of the Afghan people?


Wasn't Russia protecting the socialist progressive government against the Taliban islamists, the "bad guys"? or do you mean the bad guys are just bad guys when the U.S. declares them as bad guys?

I'm sick of American Exceptionalsim, honestly, you live in a self-serving mental bubble in la-la-land.



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 06:23 PM
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Hmmm...this sounds like a news story from last year almost....
except instead of an alleged plot to kill a foreign national on US soil this one involves the actual assassination of a scientist...
But both seem to have "evidence" that won't be released...yet....


And let the US v Iran war begin in 3....2.....1.....




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