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David Wilcock: Defeating the greatest cover-up of all time

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posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 12:41 PM
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yeah, that makes sense.....take the word of an ADMITTED MK Ultra mind-control victim.

I'll read what he has to say, for the value of information, since all info is good info...but, c'mon


duncan ofinnion has REPEATEDLY admitted and and openly spoken about his victimization in mind-control programs and basically being a tool for the shadow government.

why should his opinion hold merit, exactly?

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it becomes really obvious which members are shills when they are consistently attacking subjects like Wilcock, over and over and over and over and over,,,for pages and pages of threads...

why? you DONT benefit from attacking this thread. only a psycho would exercise that much obsession, when there is nothing in return.

can't the skeptics just leave the believers alone?

seriously, if you post a thread about david wilcock/benjamin fulford/chemtrails/fluoride/marko rodin/other-"alternative"-subjects, you're going to be HARASSED as if you were a Jew being bullied by a Nazi.

this is supposed to be a conspiracy & alternative subject forum. if ANY subject on ATS is receiving THIS kind of hostility, then the entire premise of free-speech about "alternative" topics becomes a lot less attractive.

in a sense: bringing up these "alternative" topics (like wilcock) on ATS will bring JUST AS MUCH close-mindedness as you'd find if you tried to explain this to "lay" people or john doe on the street.
JUST AS MUCH hostility, ignorance, fear & hatred, discrimination, & straight-up denial come from the ATS community. this is sad.

this forum is supposed to embody the epitome of open-mindedness and "information toleration" in the world. it's whole premise is based on the existence of info denial and conspiracies against information dissemination in the mainstream world,,,,,THUS, a forum (ATS) must be created to consider the informations that are "denied" by the mainstream.

BUT,....ATS obviously has a faulty management system. it's sad that it's happened that way, but since the mods of ATS don't really care to investigate members who show no agenda other than to BASH certain subjects, then ATS is doomed..
it will be over-run with john does which have no care for CIVIL discussions of alternative topics, and it will turn into another "social networking" site which hardly caters to "denying ignorance". look to highexistence.com, mindbook as examples of such sites.

it's almost like watching conspiracy & alternative topics becoming homogenized. it seems like the whole conspiracy community is being transformed into the sound-bite media. In the future this trend will manifest into something akin to Disney-sponsored-conspiracy theories. ...like the entire alternative/conspiracy community will be neatly packaged into a new mainstream version of conspiracies. only "acceptable" subjects will be discussed,,,,those conspiracies "on the fringe" will be treated as topics for crazy people, nuts, psychos.
basically, the conspiracy community will outcast the conspiracy community. Just like US (the conspiracy communities) are outcast from the mainstream, the conspiracy community of the future will be programmed to outcast the "most extreme" conspiracies. this is like some insane cannibalism by conspiracy communities everywhere....a self-manufactured destruction of the very idea of "entertaining conspiracies" or "information tolerance".


this isn't really directed toward anyone, but this thread is a good place to have a rant about this subject...

ok "skeptics" lets see your fear manifest again, and tell me i'm crazy and nutty and just sooo dumb, i don't know what i'm talking about, blah blah blah....


while you live in constant fear and anger, i will be living in blissful compassion, because i know all you "skeptics" will one day start thinking with your heart, and not your ego. only then will you begin to FORGIVE the "skeptics" for their hostility & close-mindedness. you will realize that the WHOLE world has been brainwashed into living in fear, and this is exactly what the top-of-the-pyramid-"elites" want their sheeple to do, live in FEAR in order to CONTROL you.

/end rant, i think.


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posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 01:38 PM
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Bill Ryan finished a recent Livestream with Wilcock, here is what he had to say:


Note the inconsistencies.

For months, Fulford has been saying that key globalist players are being arrested. Clearly this is not the case. If it was, he'd not be nearly so angry as he is... I'm as sure as I can be that many of Fulford's claims over the last year and more have been exaggerated, wishful generalities, eagerly fueled by disinformers...But so far, nothing he's ever spoken of is visible... and Keenan's infamous lawsuit is just that: a lawsuit.

So now let's see if a judgment is passed - or if any 'arrests' really are ever made...regarding Fulford's extreme claims (and the same goes for David Wilcock, who I believe is naive and suspect is being played in complex ways) -- I am not holding my breath.


Bill Ryan Smashes Wilcock's Credibility



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 01:44 PM
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this is supposed to be a conspiracy & alternative subject forum. if ANY subject on ATS is receiving THIS kind of hostility, then the entire premise of free-speech about "alternative" topics becomes a lot less attractive.


Indeed, and that would of course be the aim of the shills, to make any discussion about what to them is an "unwanted" topic, less attractive. And the reason they persist can only be they get paid for it, as any rational human being would otherwise just say their 2 cents then leave for something that would interest them more. But lets not be too hard on the shills, they actually do us a favor by keeping the thread active and movinig it forward, bumping it to the top of the list all the time =)
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posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by metalshredmetal
seriously, if you post a thread about david wilcock/benjamin fulford/chemtrails/fluoride/marko rodin/other-"alternative"-subjects, you're going to be HARASSED as if you were a Jew being bullied by a Nazi.

this is supposed to be a conspiracy & alternative subject forum. if ANY subject on ATS is receiving THIS kind of hostility, then the entire premise of free-speech about "alternative" topics becomes a lot less attractive.

in a sense: bringing up these "alternative" topics (like wilcock) on ATS will bring JUST AS MUCH close-mindedness as you'd find if you tried to explain this to "lay" people or john doe on the street.
JUST AS MUCH hostility, ignorance, fear & hatred, discrimination, & straight-up denial come from the ATS community. this is sad.


Uh oh, epic post alert.

metalshredmetal I'm sending you a friend request buddy. But watch out cause I heard ATS>GOOG alliance may be firming up for the worse. Haha, just kidding, ATS is still good. No but seriously, stay frosty friend. Stay frosty.

And keep shredding, wether its riffs or sockpuppet doucheposters. Shred on brother. Shred like an Arthur Anderson accountant.



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 03:28 PM
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Stealing $1 is theft ... but stealing 26 trillion is just a statistic.
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posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 03:29 PM
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S+F

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I don't always agree 100% with wilcox and do take some things with a pinch of....

HOWEVER this is an extremely well researched, FACTUAL (at least 98%) best piece of investigative journalism on the current and historic precedents of the situation we are all in now.

I poured over it myself when it first became available the FED Audit as such but I must say he has presented and found things that I missed, I was going to do a super thread on ATS about it myself (just the financial stuff) however choose not to for many reasons... including an dislike for car accidents and fire.

EVERYONE should read this in entirity check links and then pass this to everyone in their facebook, everyone in their email address, ever mobile number you have, even print it and leave it places.

Kind Regards,

Elf



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by MischeviousElf
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EVERYONE should read this in entirity check links and then pass this to everyone in their facebook, everyone in their email address, ever mobile number you have, even print it and leave it places.

Kind Regards,

Elf


Thanks ME, you are an ally for truth as always.

Yes, at least if you can get every Facebooker to read the Keenan filing, then that would be a jury of something like 800 million people? Such a jury could request to have amicus briefs filed if they need more info about world corruption.

Seriously, if 800 million jurists deliberate, and they sit around a table and consider this, I wonder, what action would they take?

That is to ask, can we not all, global citizens, human beings and Earthlings, ask that we all be allowed to see any and all "Dragon Family Instruments"? We have the website now with high resolution pics, and the dude is assassinated (as alleged by Wilcock who says picture website guy was killed), and yet we must ask: If these pictures be real, then why is this subject still 100% airtight not discussed in the waking world?

Perhaps you'd agree that a lot of these people see TV as being more credible and worthy of belief, than court itself? Sure seems that way.

Also to all in this thread: Can we followup on the dead guy? Seems nice anyway, can someone from Wilcock's camp get a body count going anyway? That'd be helpful.



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 07:02 PM
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for the people that ARE interested and HAVE done their proper research i salute you all, it took me a good couple of days of non stop reading to really form the picture of what was going on and there's so much you can research into that it is a fascinating story.

putting the whole fulford/wilcox to one side, there definitely was 100% hundreds of huge underground bunkers built in the phillippines that hid truly mind boggling amounts of gold that was mostly stolen from China. If you do your research you find that there is a lot of information about most of these sites, for example, a marker was left by the Japanese, usually a perfect small hole drilled into granite stone, which indicated it was a burial site of the gold.Also, it appears that most of the bunkers were at least 70 feet underground, diggers found shafts every 10ft to indicate they were on the right path and usually they eventually hit a very strong solid piece of stone which blocked the entrance.

i found THIS SITE which has lots of pictures and lots of reading.

There is the story of the Watanabe family, treasure hunters in the phillipines, and this is how the guy lives:

"Mr. Watanabe was a gracious host who welcomed me to his palatial estate, which sits on some 100 hectares of well-tended orchards and grounds. There are many animals running around including well-bred horses tucked away in their stable next to his racetrack. There is a tennis court and a miniature golf course and driving range, even though he says he does not really like the game. He has two swimming pools with waterfalls and a small stream running between them not to mention the authentic Japanese garden at the back of his house with many varieties of fish in the ponds, some imported from Japan. The lay out of his ranch, as he likes to call it, is more like a fort or old style hacienda and not what anyone would expect in this part of the province. As he escorted me around the grounds of his vast estate, it was evident that this was not your average Filipino farmer as I was at first led to believe"

not exactly the standard filipino life. But that is just one, there are many many stories and pictures of burial sites that have been found and excavated:

"1,800 gold bars were found by a TV camera crew from TV Asahi. One of Japan's key TV stations, in the mountains near Manila in the Philippines recently. The value of the gold bars in equivalent to $150 million."

" And if that were not enough, most if not all of the tunnels were booby-trapped with 1,000- and 2,000-lb bombs and poisonous gas" . Watanabe himself uncovered 5 japanese bombs around his discovery site, water traps were also common

"A treasure hunter shockingly discovered what appear to be 30 skeletons of Japanese soldiers from WWII in a section of tunnel some 125 feet underground in an excavation in the outskirts of Tugbok district.He was shocked to find human skeletons sprawled all over the tunnel. There were rusty helmets, rifles, bayonets and tattered uniforms to prove that these skeletons were those of Japanese soldiers who were entombed alive."

largest site found:
" There is a massive tunnel complex housing trucks, a Shinto Shrine with a 12 foot high golden Buddha, and 1000 x 75Kg Bars. It also has many POW and Japanese Officers and Wives inside. Another tunnel system close by has 6 locos with carriages holding tons of treasure taken from SE Asian Temples. We talking the Japanese tunnel designer before he left the PI to go home to Japan to die! He said all he wanted was one of the many golden crowns in the back one of these carriages as his reward for helping us! This is NOT an Imperial treasure site. It is part of the underground Kamikaze tunnel network which stored a lot of military hardware deep under the ground the roof of the tunnel was reached at 260 feet"

most of it was taken by the US after the war and along with taking China's gold for "safe keeping" it was all kept in fort knox. Seems fort knox was made to make sure that once the US got the gold they weren't going to let anyone take it from them like the Chinese and Japanese had done.

there is an absolute mountain of details and history about the gold, and that is just one tiny part of the whole fight that is going on amongst the elite. China got ripped off big time and have nothing but worthless pieces of paper to show for their gold.

172 documented, official Japanese imperial burial sites (138 on land and 34 in deliberately scuttled ships)

edit: it also seems like a lot of major US bases in the Phillippines were built on ground suspected to have lots of treasure hidden, not built for strategic position but a way to control the land to be free to excavate
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posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by Equ1nox
i found THIS SITE which has lots of pictures and lots of reading.


Outstanding link and post. Good point also about brushing aside the names and personas that want to surf this wave, it seems to have formed before any of use were born, around 1930s or so.

Thanks.



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 08:13 PM
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this is a great picture that gives an idea just how huge a project it is to recover anything, many people started in small groups with basic tools and just couldn't do what they wanted because of the sheer size of the job, as one person said: it took an army to hide it and it will take an army to recover it.




they left very definite markings, it seems the holes that were made indicated how many deposits were there, and they used markings and signs to give details of where it was buried, they also used much smaller deposits to try and trick people into not looking further to find the really huge bounty.

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posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by Equ1nox

there is an absolute mountain of details and history about the gold, and that is just one tiny part of the whole fight that is going on amongst the elite. China got ripped off big time and have nothing but worthless pieces of paper to show for their gold.


Japan looted for half a century gold and other precious metals mainly from China...who looted for centuries he country-states they conquered, slaughtered...etc etc etc. Can you rip off a ripper?

I would suggest reading Peggy/Sterling Seagrave who wrote The Soong Dynasty, The Marcos Dynasty, and particularly the Gold Warriors, the latter comes with updates via CD/DVD.

S. Seagrave grew up on the China-Burma border.

Or you can listen here.

Seagraves Interview

This, among several other related well researched, lightly publicized manuscripts is why I know that Wilcock meets the definition of con artist. He's rehashing histories few people understand and oh how brilliant it makes him.

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posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 11:31 PM
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I am SalsaLooser.


However, even more interesting is the latest report from another Time Traveler (????) Bill Wood an ex Navy Seal, who followed through many different time lines and found that each one ends up exactly the same, at the wall of light. It tells you that whatever course your life takes and whatever your particular experience, you will all reach that point of change. Where you go from there is going to be determined by your own vibrational level. Some will find themselves in a higher one whilst others will move into another level similar to the one they were in previously. Perhaps even more important is the finding that whatever is attempted to alter the time lines and thus the future, no changes can be made to it. That Dear Ones is the Divine power protecting your upliftment and Ascension.


I am SalsaLooser.

Pay no attention to my robot voice or the big foreheaded WilcockCretin behind the curtain. Or that this transmission from the Galactic Fools League (GFL) just happens to come right after Project Scamelot interviews. Nothing here.

I am SalsaLooser.

Over and out Earthlings.


SalsaLooser TimeSpeaks Pure Space BS



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 12:38 PM
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Oh No! Not good news for Wilcock Koolaid Gulpers!

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by TheExopolitician
Oh No! Not good news for Wilcock Koolaid Gulpers!

www.abovetopsecret.com...




Originally posted by TheExopolitician
Just asking...

If "Bill Wood" who has now been positively identified as "WILLIAM NEAL BROCKBRADER; WILLIAM NEWELL BROCKBRADER; WILLIAM NEWGY BROCKRADER"

...an online registered sex offender who had sex with a 12 year old girl..not the 16 year old he suppose claimed in the interview as posted here on this thread...would that undo his so-called veracity?

I am very afraid this entire thing will be totally exposed within a week and sadly will discredit "Wood" and Jaguar Cassidy, David Wilcock and Bill "The Hat" Ryan - having a man who each claimed over and over again is entirely believable exposed for lying about the raping a 12 yr old girl and lies about his military life isnt going to play out well.



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sounds like a malevolently-charged discredition campaign if you ask me.

"he raped a 12 year old! what a monster! you can't side with anything he says!" rape is a subject of which gathers a lot of hatred,,,which makes it a perfect false-accusation in order to discredit someone's reputation or agenda.

it's often used as a tool to discredit people in order to silence their voice.

care to provide proof of what your accusing? or are you just going to pop-in here to post a link and spread disrespect based on nothing?
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posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 01:15 PM
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They tend to be linear type thinkers. I've mentioned before when they are saying "show me the proof" and I tell them they have to be able to jump off the page in order to connect the myriad dots that make up the bigger picture. You have to see things in a more holistic way and reductionists have a hard time with that. And I agree, if we all agreed on everything this place would be incredibly boring but the "skeptics" get annoying in the sense that if they just keep saying "no it isn't" they've somehow made the whole subject go away.

I like to listen to/read a variety of people on this subject and for me it takes a bit of intuition whether or not I'm going to believe someone. It's almost as if the extreme skeptics lack not only the ability of non-linear thinking but also have no connection with an intuitive side or at least are unable to get in touch with it. That's probably where the fear-based paradigm comes from- their collective fear of things they can't understand. Perpetuates evil and ignorance



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by smallpeeps

Originally posted by Equ1nox
i found THIS SITE which has lots of pictures and lots of reading.


Outstanding link and post. Good point also about brushing aside the names and personas that want to surf this wave, it seems to have formed before any of use were born, around 1930s or so.

Thanks.


that site is suspended



posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 04:43 PM
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Originally posted by bottleslingguy
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They tend to be linear type thinkers. I've mentioned before when they are saying "show me the proof" and I tell them they have to be able to jump off the page in order to connect the myriad dots that make up the bigger picture. You have to see things in a more holistic way and reductionists have a hard time with that. And I agree, if we all agreed on everything this place would be incredibly boring but the "skeptics" get annoying in the sense that if they just keep saying "no it isn't" they've somehow made the whole subject go away.

I like to listen to/read a variety of people on this subject and for me it takes a bit of intuition whether or not I'm going to believe someone. It's almost as if the extreme skeptics lack not only the ability of non-linear thinking but also have no connection with an intuitive side or at least are unable to get in touch with it. That's probably where the fear-based paradigm comes from- their collective fear of things they can't understand. Perpetuates evil and ignorance


lmao THANK YOU, i had no idea how to type a response without basically just getting annoyed and frustrated, you put it into perfect words, better than i could sum it up.

the webpage is still showing for me
www.worldwar2treasure.com/current.html
or try deleteing /current



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 08:42 AM
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While we wait for Wilcock to self-implode over his conjoining the "Bill Wood" Project Camelot fraud/farce, or his "ascension" that won't happen in 2012 (ala Ascension 2000 :lol or the underground bunkers which millions of aliens were killed :lol
, let's take a deeper look into the shallow pond called David Wilcock.

Here is a helpful text for doing so.

Let's start with his centerpiece the "The 2012 Enigma". "The 2012 Enigma" is a wandering, meandering, unfocused whirligig complete guided tour through every single piece of bunkum, flim-flammery, hocus-pocus, nonsense, fluff, prattle, bull#, and chicanery that exists in the established canon of 2012 apocalypticism. It is a carnival wrapped in a circus shoved digitally at us from our screens.

We get psychics. We get reincarnation. We get energy crystals. We get quantum this-and-that. Aliens. Ancient Mayans. Wormholes. Screenshots from the movie "Contact." It's all there. But if you asked me what "The 2012 Enigma" was about exactly, I wouldn't be able to tell you, even though I've watched it a dozen times right now. It's just an aimless rant that tries to squeeze as much disconnected nonsense into a semicoherent narrative as possible.

Perfect for New Agers who really, really "get off" on substanceless crap. The rest of use who dare to live and require a fact-filled, rational world..meh.


For your edification and regurgitation "The 2012 Enema, er Enigma"




posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 08:54 AM
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Why would you watch something you dont believe 12 times
I dont believe Wilcock either but i wouldnt watch it 12 times to prove it
thats just plain weird
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posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 12:35 PM
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If you asked me about Wilcock himself...

There are certain modes of behavior or tendencies that people (non New Agers) have that should make us (those attached to reality) suspicious straight from the outset. People who routinely make casual errors that could be corrected by even token amounts of research typically are people who have not done the research and who have no interest in doing the research.

People (Wilcock) who make sweeping generalizations about complicated topics in physics or mathematics - but who do not even once get into specific details about those topics - are lamely attempting to cover up the fact that they don't know what they're talking about; they speak quickly and casually to make it seem like what they're saying is totally obvious and very simple, even if it is total bollocks.

People (Wilcock) who habitually cite crappy, discredited research and most depserately want you to believe without question that "the Establishment," meaning usually accepted solid science, is hiding something serious from you and that only the crank in question (Wilcock) has The Truth.

And when they start telling you that they're the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce,
you know that you will never even be on the same planet, much less the same playing field. And if you've watched "Enigma," you know just what Wilcock thinks about himself vis-a-vis Edgar Cayce. It ain't pretty.

Wilcock, if you want a serious place at serious peoples' tables, don't infer from the premise "there are some squiggles in the desert" the conclusion that "superdooperadvanced aliens want us to be afraid of the year 2012.

Oh well, there's no money in that now is there, Wilcock?




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