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94% Probability 1 km Asteroid to Hit South Pole in 2012 and Cause Ice Shelf Collapse?

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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 03:34 PM
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I normally would skip a thread like this but then I realized who the OP was and figured I would entertain the idea

I ran across this thread www.abovetopsecret.com...
This makes me wonder if some of the changes that we are seeing in Antarctica are man made. Perhaps cracks like these are made during tests of the durability of the ice shelf and what could be expected during an impact event. Just a crazy theory but Antarctica really is becoming much more interesting to me.




posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 03:42 PM
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You know this is bunk simply by the fact it is not possible to predict where an asteroid may impact on the Earth.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by mileslong54
The earth is going to get hit by a small object that is in tow of a much larger object. The larger object revisits the earth on a predictable cycle. It will flip the earth upside down.


I pole-flipping knew Nibiru would elbow its way into this somehow.

If I spend anymore time with my face in my palm, I won't get to read the real stories on ATS.

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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by sitchin
can't wait till 2012 is over...wonder what the next doomsday year will be...come on guy/girls ..the asteroid predictions are just getting silly now ..i'll bet my last dollar ,we will all be here next year reading these posts.. I've got more chance wining the lotto every week for the next 6 months than a killer asteroid hitting any where on the planet,never mind the ice caps..

Think it was like 2032 an asteroid is already known to be a threat so that will be the next in line i think.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by redoubt

Originally posted by Starchild23
reply to post by EmperorXyn
 



How exactly would they do that? Shoot it, and have pieces raining everywhere? Brilliant suggestion!


It raises a really fascinating scenario...

What if quarter-mile asteroid was confirmed to strike.. oh, say, in India in 72 hours or so. The options are to:
1. Stick your head between your legs and kiss your butt goodbye...
or
2. Blow it to pieces so the misery is shared all around the world by all peoples and nations

I can see the propaganda machines at work now, talking about how it is unfair that the brunt of this asteroid should be borne up by a single nation. The UN then votes and narrowly passes a resolution to... do nothing except help India prepare for the worst.

Rioting spreads across central Asia while protesters take to the streets in support of global sharing of the death rock. The MSM spreads the flames by insinuating that a major world power may have already diverted the course of the asteroid to miss them and land in India!

All hell breaks loose!

But then... the rock misses us and we all feel a little stupid too late as martial law has already been declared.

Wow. Think I'll write this one up for the Short Story board, lol.



I would think the best bet would be steer it into the sun surly anything that big would be pulled on by the sun anyway just needs a nudge.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
Just a note on doom and doom prophecy. . . . .

The first actual doom post was in 1845 by Count de Spankypants in the magazine Les Dewm.

He (the Count) stated that a 5mm asteroid was going to crash into his soup bowl collection. He stated that wearing live waterfowl on your head would protect you* and encouraged others to do the same. Sadly, his life was ended when an irate goose tore his jugular one afternoon in May of '46.**



*They didn't have tinfoil back then.

**His great-great-great grandnephew Phil Spankypants followed in the same irrational vein by opening the first and only McPhlegm Sandwich Shoppe franchise. Surprisingly, it actually stayed open for two years.


I was always under the impression that it was against the rules here to post things that you know are false or misleading, maybe it's ok as long as you are belittling the OP?



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by Char-Lee

Originally posted by sitchin
can't wait till 2012 is over...wonder what the next doomsday year will be...come on guy/girls ..the asteroid predictions are just getting silly now ..i'll bet my last dollar ,we will all be here next year reading these posts.. I've got more chance wining the lotto every week for the next 6 months than a killer asteroid hitting any where on the planet,never mind the ice caps..

Think it was like 2032 an asteroid is already known to be a threat so that will be the next in line i think.


I think you're referring to Apophis in 2029 and 2039 but I'm sure there will be others before then and Apophis is a long way away and a lot can happen from now until then.
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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 04:07 PM
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No, I think having a sense of humor is allowed.

John Lennon had one too, you know.

BTW, Hayes Carll fan by chance?
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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 04:23 PM
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I actually admire the OP and follow his input.

I'm making fun of doom.

Not the OP.

I'm making light of the fact that 2012 we'll see all sorts of stories like this. Better to get it out in the open (YAY OP!) than to let the actual fears fester and cause real harm.

So you don't get my small ( very very small) homage to Adams, Pratchett, et al.

Humble apologies.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 04:24 PM
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I don't trust the source. Why can the writer of the article (Ray), not name the 'University of British Columbia Professor'? Wouldn't any writer and researcher worth his salt want to find out more and contact the mysterious professor. How did the article and it's reported vanishing come to his attention?

If the proff's article was pulled after two days , Ray obviously has a copy of it or he wouldn't be able to quote large chunks of it. Why not share the original text with everyone?

Under the large quote that is supposedly from the ' Canadian Space Agency official' (again not named), there is a link that doesn't work.

All of these statements and impressive sounding quotes without sources, together with the paragraph about 'Filchner Ronne ice shelf' that is lifted directly from WIkipedia (which he does link to!) make me think this is an article of a dubious origin.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 04:40 PM
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Another couple of points,

This line;


Canada-France-Hawaii Telescope on Mauna Kea, which (with the Adaptive Optics Bonnette) supplies probably the sharpest images currently obtainable from the ground.


Is lifted directly from www.phas.ubc.ca...

and this line,


The Balloon-borne Large-Aperture Sub millimeter Telescope (BLAST) at McMurdo Station, Antarctica


Is from the Wiki page on that equipment. Ray is obviously not much of a writer and I would even go so far as to say he is trying to give us the impression that what he has written originated from the mysterious professor.

If you look on the www.phas.ubc.ca... website link as provided, there is nowhere where professors would be uploading 'articles' on anything. Generally they publish research papers but there would be a record of that, as they are published. So yes, I think this is a case of self promotion and fantasy on behalf of this guy 'Ray'.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 05:16 PM
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Thanks for sharing with us TA
I love these sort of topics,
They always get my hopes up!

SnF my Friend for delighting me with doom, I love doom

I really do!



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by premierepastimes
I normally would skip a thread like this but then I realized who the OP was and figured I would entertain the idea

I ran across this thread www.abovetopsecret.com...
This makes me wonder if some of the changes that we are seeing in Antarctica are man made. Perhaps cracks like these are made during tests of the durability of the ice shelf and what could be expected during an impact event. Just a crazy theory but Antarctica really is becoming much more interesting to me.


Crazy theory but have the same idea... It can be possible
go to south when u are in the area on my pictures in google earth
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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 05:20 PM
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If a 1 km asteroid hit the earth from the south poll it would have to be coming in from a 90 degree or close to it angle to do real damage.

That would be impossible to be 90% and from that vector the moon would suck it off track.




Due to the South Pole being ultra-compressed rock from the wight of Ice, it is unlikely it would cause anything major in damage. In all likely hood it would just cause a melt off for a single season, and that's not all that worrying.

You'll have more rain.
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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 05:24 PM
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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 05:48 PM
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I hate to devils advocate but you know that isn't the worst possible idea.....I'd rather have tons of small asteroids/meteors hitting earth with a high probability of many of them burning up in the atmosphere then have one large one screw us in the bum.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 05:52 PM
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I am a firm believer in knowing both sides of the story, so I was excited to see you provided a "debunk" to the OP article.

However, if you search Dr. Jaymie Matthews, his bio comes up as result #1 on Google.

He apparently likes to dress up in superhero costumes as stated in his own bio.

As well as,


He has yet to live down being quoted in Discover Magazine as saying "Exploding Star Contains Atoms From Elvis Presley's Brain - Scientists Confirm That The King of Rock & Roll Lived In Another Galaxy 160,000 Years Ago!"

Of course, I just took a snippet, but this part made me laugh : )



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 10:32 PM
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Is it just me or is there no name for this Earth killer?



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 11:59 PM
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Originally posted by TrueAmerican
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The article hypothesized a 94% probability that the asteroid would impact on the Filchner-Ronne ice shelf and cause 2/3 of ice on Antarctica to crumble into sea. The article surmised the total collapse of all Antarctic ice within 2-4 months after impact. “A deep enough impact would crack the ice shelf like a window and total structural collapse would be inevitable, a few months at the outside.” If the ice on Antarctica was added the the world’s ocean it would raise them by 70 meters.




Right.


Problem one is only a complete melt of the Antarctic ice would cause a 70 meter rise in sea level

Only a impact a lot bigger would cause a complete melt.
But that big a impact would also cause a impact winter and cause more ice in other parts of the world plus a refreeze of the Antarctic

At one point it talks about a ice shelf collapse but does not explain the full melt they then postulate.

Great theory but then they goofed on facts.
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posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 12:20 AM
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specific date: August 9-16, my one week window

Just going on record....



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