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Iranian supreme leader blames U.S., Israel for scientist's death

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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 01:10 PM
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Iranian supreme leader blames U.S., Israel for scientist's death


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Iran's top cleric has blamed the CIA and Mossad, Israel's intelligence agency, for killing an Iranian nuclear scientist, Iran's state broadcaster said.

Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan, who died Wednesday, was the third Iranian nuclear scientist in two years to be killed by what Iran described as a magnetic bomb attached to his car. A fourth survived a similar assassination attempt.
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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 01:10 PM
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I think they knew that after the first nuclear scientist death
and now a deputy director of the natanz plant
that it was Mossad with maybe the CIA help who commited those crimes

A statement like this coming from the big leader himself


mean a retaliation of some sort soon
still not sure of the Iranian response to those very important people in the energy departement
being killed like rats in the streets

Remember what happened
when the USA not to long ago discovered a plot to kill
the saudi ambassador .. how coincidential ..

They needed that kind of release before they could public kill
the iranian scientists
Not to much a big deal if they are caught
because Iran wanted to assassinated first the saudi ambassador



Roshan's death shows that "the global arrogance spearheaded by the U.S. and Zionism has reached a deadlock in confrontation with the determined, devout and progressive nation of Islamic Iran," Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was quoted as saying by the state-run Press TV.

Those responsible will not own up, Khamenei said, but the attack "has been carried out by the planning or support of CIA and Mossad [spy] services, like all other crimes of the network of international state terrorism."

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Iran's military might in Iraq Khamenei ended his message of condolence with a warning: "We shall persist in punishing the perpetrators of this crime, as well those supporting them behind the scenes."

Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad sent his condolences Friday to the families of Roshan and his driver, who also died following the attack, the state-run IRNA news agency reported. He pointed the finger at "agents of imperialism and international Zionism," a reference to Israel.


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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 01:18 PM
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They do seem to be having a lot of accidents, incidents and random acts of highly skilled and well supplied 'street crime' lately, eh? The Iranians may just take this last one as a step too far. I must say, in reading the details of how this was done, this took real nerve. What's next? They sneak someone into Ahmadinejad's private residence to tag a hand flipping him the bird on his bathroom mirror?

Yikes... If we'd back off JUST A HAIR...maybe Iran would too.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 01:22 PM
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I watching it on tv right now...But what if Iran had something that everybody else doesn't know about besides the drone? maybe they have a secret nuke or worse. anything possible
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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
They do seem to be having a lot of accidents, incidents and random acts of highly skilled and well supplied 'street crime' lately, eh? The Iranians may just take this last one as a step too far. I must say, in reading the details of how this was done, this took real nerve. What's next? They sneak someone into Ahmadinejad's private residence to tag a hand flipping him the bird on his bathroom mirror?

Yikes... If we'd back off JUST A HAIR...maybe Iran would too.


each time it was magnetic bomb inserted under the car

each time many civilians were harm in this public execution
terrorists dont care when innocent die in their madness to assasinate someone


CIA are more discret and precise .. it was probably a linked mossad cell
each time riders on bike placed the bomb quickly and run away
they are not professional ..usualy a hitman make sure the target is dead
even if he his killed in the process

1 survived on 4 .. only that tells you a lot



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by mytheroy
I watching it on tv right now...But what if Iran had something that everybody else doesn't know about besides the drone? maybe they have a secret nuke or worse. anything possible
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Like Irak having so many WMD

same scenario all over again .. most of the public will fall for it like zombies
listening to every crap on the news
to make another illegal war ...legal

Dont you get it .. Israel wants the US to help them control the entire ME
not many country to fight now all other have US bases in it
Syria and Iran are the one remaining before obtaining the total ME control

I have read somewhere that there is a no fly zone coming in Syria
tension have never been so high .. it can get ugly real fast



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by Ben81

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
They do seem to be having a lot of accidents, incidents and random acts of highly skilled and well supplied 'street crime' lately, eh? The Iranians may just take this last one as a step too far. I must say, in reading the details of how this was done, this took real nerve. What's next? They sneak someone into Ahmadinejad's private residence to tag a hand flipping him the bird on his bathroom mirror?

Yikes... If we'd back off JUST A HAIR...maybe Iran would too.


CIA are more discret and precise .. it was probably a linked mossad cell
each time riders on bike placed the bomb quickly and run away
they are not professional ..usualy a hitman make sure the target is dead
even if he his killed in the process

1 survived on 4 .. only that tells you a lot


Well, I'd first include the other assassinations like the Commanding General who recently died when a Missile being worked on nearby mysteriously exploded. Or the fuel did... Whichever vaporized the guy.

I'd also note the CIA is definitely not always subtle or smooth about what they do. In fact, the incident that was depicted in Robert Redford's movie "Spy Game" was likely based on a real event, where they blew up the better part of a city block and everything IN IT, trying to get one guy. If anything, the movie depiction as a fictional thing was far less horrible than the real one.


WASHINGTON - The CIA, with President Reagan's approval, organized a Middle East anti-terrorist operation that staged an unauthorized bombing attack which killed 80 people in Beirut, Lebanon, the Washington Post reported.

Members of one of the counterterrorist groups, acting without authorization from the CIA, hired others in Lebanon to detonate the car bomb outside a Beirut apartment building March 8, the newspaper said Sunday, quoting unidentified sources.
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Now they claim that wasn't authorized...but there is more than one non-fiction type book published since to claim otherwise. In that context, it wouldn't shock me if these were CIA or Mossad trained/backed people doing this inside Iran. That sounds about right for how we've seen things in the past....and just as foolish and stupid as always. I guess some things never change...just the name tags on the door plates.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 01:37 PM
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Not trying to get off topic, but I feel for these scientists, they went to school studied and are just doing their job only to get assassinated. I mean it's pretty clear who is the likely suspect behind these assassinations. smh



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by Majestic Lumen
Not trying to get off topic, but I feel for these scientists, they went to school studied and are just doing their job only to get assassinated. I mean it's pretty clear who is the likely suspect behind these assassinations. smh


I also feel for them
they didnt diserve to die .. this is a war crime once again

Imagine if 4 US scientists were killed by a foreign entity
what will be the retaliation .. possibly enormous
but its ok doing that to other high valuable scientist
Iran is showing big restrain here .. and have been doing that for quite some time
i would be extremelly pissed at their place after these high profile assasinations



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 03:17 PM
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It's clearly mossad and cia and they have been waging a covert war on Iran for a long time...

This is a way for them to try to provoke Iran into making the first move... but Iran is smarter than that and will not budge until they are attacked...

When Israel does attack Iran overtly, then it will be a one sided war as Iran will crush israel once and for all...



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by Magnum007
It's clearly mossad and cia and they have been waging a covert war on Iran for a long time...

This is a way for them to try to provoke Iran into making the first move... but Iran is smarter than that and will not budge until they are attacked...

When Israel does attack Iran overtly, then it will be a one sided war as Iran will crush israel once and for all...


With the help of Russia and China
from the start they have been against the sanctions
their diplomate never walks out of any Ahmadinejad speech

US and Israel are underestimating their strong ties and many defense treaty



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by Magnum007
It's clearly mossad and cia


Is it really?

Who has the most to gain ultimately, from instigating a war between the USA/Israel and Iran, and the certain disruption of oil supplies and, massive upward spikes in oil prices??




posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by Fractured.Facade

Originally posted by Magnum007
It's clearly mossad and cia


Is it really?

Who has the most to gain ultimately, from instigating a war between the USA/Israel and Iran, and the certain disruption of oil supplies and, massive upward spikes in oil prices??



Although I see the logic in what you are saying the answer is simple... Israel doesn't care about these material things... this is "god's" will... when people are doing things for "god" they have no logic or reason and all the collateral damage caused by their actions has no weight in their decisions...

basically, the world could be a nuclear wasteland for all they care, as long as they get israel and build the temple again...



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 10:50 AM
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Yeah, sure and the Ayatollahs in Iran believe that by killing the infidels of the world and the Jews in Israel will allow for the establishment of a global Islamic caliphate and expedite the return of the Mahdi... And this is the supreme will of Allah... These are more than just beliefs for the true rulers of Iran, it is their prime directive in everything they do. A directive thousands of years in the making.

Does it really matter which side is right or wrong?

Jews follow the will of God?

Iranian leaders follow the will of Allah through the commands of their supreme Ayatollah?

Maybe one is actually complying with the will of God, and the other is actually preparing the world for the Antichrist?

Maybe it's all a load of crap, and a hell of a lot of people are going to die over NOTHING!

We'll see eventually...





posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by Fractured.Facade

Maybe one is actually complying with the will of God, and the other is actually preparing the world for the Antichrist?
Both are full of it as there is no god /allah

Maybe it's all a load of crap, and a hell of a lot of people are going to die over NOTHING!

There is no maybe's, your so called gods are BS and people will keep dying in endless wars for an imaginary god.
The fact is that as long as one nation ,The United States OF israel ,oops i meant America and Israel, keep thinking that they are gods choosen then we will continue to see murders such as these.
F*** off your gods and F*** off religion and then we will see the end of meaningless wars. Its that simple
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posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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Agreed, the only thing is that Iran hasn't conducted any violence towards anyone, they have only used threats that they would if attacked...

Israel on the other hand has conducted invasions of foreign, sovereign nations and destroyed their property as well as killed people without trial in illegal and immoral assassinations...

so who's the real bully here... the guy who is conducting covert and overt operations for some "god", or someone who threatens to defend themselves if they are attacked?

Iran has been under covert attack for years and never retaliated. they had more than enough evidence to justify war with Israel yet they lie in wait to ensure that the world sees the real reason why they need to defend themselves...

israel will attack iran overtly and this will be the beginning of the end for israel and a big part of the world when they go all schizo and start dropping nukes "they don't have" all over the "anti-semites"...

and yes, unfortunately, many will die for absolutely nothing...



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by WozaMeathed

Originally posted by Fractured.Facade

Maybe one is actually complying with the will of God, and the other is actually preparing the world for the Antichrist?
Both are full of it as there is no god /allah


What if you're wrong, and it is all VERY real?

What if prophecies are true, and there are wars and plagues (natural or man-made) that cause the deaths of millions, perhaps hundreds of millions?

What if HE has been planning his time of rule in this world, and in his physical presence among us for a very long time, and this is his way?

The souls of a godless people are the easiest to claim.



War is hell... Gonna get ya!

Nah, maybe you're right and there is no God, and that means there is no devil.... No good or evil, just stupid humans seeking a spiritual explanation for both... And justification of some kind for killing others in the name of some unproven deity?

Suppose we'll find out soon enough.



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 11:59 AM
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In Islam they believe this...

www.inter-islam.org...


Signs that will Precede Imam Mahdi

1) A General Sign

There are many signs that will precede him, a general and very important sign is that he will come at a time when there is great confutation, intense disputes and violent deaths. When people are afflicted by disturbance and experiencing great fear. Calamities will fall upon the people, so much so that a man shall not find a shelter to shelter him self from oppression. There will be battles and fitnaas before his appearance. Every time a fitnaa has come to end, another will start, spread and intensify. The people will be troubled to such an extent that they will long for death. It is then that Imam Mahdi will be sent.

Abu Saeed Al-Khudri has repoted that the Messenger of Allah said "He will be sent at a time of intense disputes and differences among people and earthquakes..." (Ahmed)


Is Iran trying to make this happen?

Nah, can't be... It's all bullcrap!

Right?

Islam is a religion of peace and the true religion of God, the only God... Allah!

Jews and the west are the "great Satan" and must be defeated so that Islam can conquer the world and everyone can live in peace and worship him.


Say your prayers, keep the faith, be righteous warriors of God/Allah and you will enjoy many rewards in the afterlife.


Go back to sleep America, it's all a lie!

Or Is it????




posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 12:08 PM
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I agree that both sides are violent... but when it comes to looking at iran and israel, I'm sorry, israel is the more violent one...

Iran has only used words, israel has acted many times on those words...

so who are you to fear more? the one with "no nukes" who threatens to drop nukes on europe because they are "anti-semetic" after showing that they can and will violate international law and bomb other countries
or
the country who says they will wipe israel off the map if they are attacked by them but has not yet retaliated to the many covert acts of terrorism done to them....

hmmmm

in this case I would side with iran as they seem to have the cooler head on their shoulders...



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by Magnum007
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I agree that both sides are violent... but when it comes to looking at iran and israel, I'm sorry, israel is the more violent one...


Evil afflicts without discretion and is immeasurable.



Iran has only used words, israel has acted many times on those words...


Provocations and reactions are a key part of the process.



so who are you to fear more? the one with "no nukes" who threatens to drop nukes on europe because they are "anti-semetic" after showing that they can and will violate international law and bomb other countries
or the country who says they will wipe israel off the map if they are attacked by them but has not yet retaliated to the many covert acts of terrorism done to them....


I have no fear at all.... This isn't a pissing contest and I'm not choosing a side to be on. Evil doesn't respect borders, religions and beliefs, nor does it obey the rules of war.



in this case I would side with iran as they seem to have the cooler head on their shoulders...


Pray you have chosen well.


Godspeed.
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