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Ex-Israeli Intelligence Officer: “Pearl Harbor” Style Attack Will Be Pretext For War On Iran

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posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by sonnny1

What dont you get?

H-A-M-A-S

He works for H-A-M-A-S.

How is this a fabrication of the Jewish Media or American Media?


I was referring to the lies you conribute to spread about HAMAS (human shields and rubbish like that). HAMAS itself is a legitimate and democratic force in Palestine, I have no problem with HAMAS because I'm not occupying other people's land. Who should militarily defend Palestine, according to you? it seems you just support the genocide of this people.
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posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by Brasov


I was referring to the lies you conribute to spread about HAMAS (human shields and rubbish like that). HAMAS itself is a legitimate and democratic force in Palestine, I have no problem with HAMAS because I'm not occupying other people's land. Who should militarily defend Palestine, according to you? it seems you just support the genocide of this people.


NOWHERE in this thread have I EVER talked about 'human shields or rubbish like that".

Prove where I "actually"said it,or is everything else I said,jumbled up into your personal rubbish definition..






I have stated this.

YOU SPOUT Plenty of ANTI-American rhetoric.


Again,you can create your own thread on this. WHY DERAIL THE THREAD? Why cant we talk about "Ex-Israeli Intelligence Officer: “Pearl Harbor” Style Attack Will Be Pretext For War On Iran"? Or is that ALSO "rubbish like that "?


If you want to talk about HAMAS outright,make your own DxxN Thread !


ON TOPIC.........

I honestly don't believe Iran will fall for provocation,because the US Military,has been in that region before,has had ships in that region before.Sanction will not hurt,unless China and Russia decide to sway with the US.

Great Conspiracy scenario from Avi Perry though.

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posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 02:50 PM
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Did Perry use the quotations in his words, or were they just quoting him in the article? Can't go to it right now.
If he said something like "A 'surprise' attack" it might be some sort of indicator (huge emphasis on MIGHT), if they were just quoting him on that one word then it's nothing.



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by sonnny1

NOWHERE in this thread have I EVER talked about 'human shields or rubbish like that".


Alright then you just stepped in when I was answering to somebody else.

The never ending murderous actions of the U.S. across the globe are the best anti-US propaganda of itself.
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posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 02:54 PM
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Here is the paragraph:


Elimination of Iran’s nuclear facilities? Yes. This part would turn out to be the final act, the grand finale. It might have been the major target, had the US initiated the attack. However, under this “Pearl Harbor” scenario, in which Iran had launched a “surprise” attack on the US navy, the US would have the perfect rationalization to finish them off, to put an end to this ugly game.



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 03:07 PM
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Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by GogoVicMorrow
 


Here is the paragraph:


Elimination of Iran’s nuclear facilities? Yes. This part would turn out to be the final act, the grand finale. It might have been the major target, had the US initiated the attack. However, under this “Pearl Harbor” scenario, in which Iran had launched a “surprise” attack on the US navy, the US would have the perfect rationalization to finish them off, to put an end to this ugly game.




...to put an end to this ugly game


Actually,

It would be the "Beginning of the End"....



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 12:33 PM
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Bill,

Is there a recording of you comments on the radio show?

If there is then please provide us with a link.

In my view, Israel is the problemin the Middle East and the greatest threat to world peace and would happily kill 3,000 Americans to get us to go to war with Islam.

Oh wait, they already did that.



Originally posted by BillfromCovina
In 2008, I was worried about this happening and gave a warning to our servicemen on the "Brian and the Judge" FOX radio show. I was prompted by the unusual activity of four carriers being in the gulf. Knowing that Bush and Cheney were psychopaths it was easy to see another false flag developing.

How does a scenario like this play out? How can a small ship get close to a carrier? In the Navy we were always drilling. War games, fire, and shut down drills out at sea are common. During a drill, the carrier's defenses would be shut off and its nuclear reactor compartment would be hit by a missile. The missile would actually come from an Israeli sub in the area. They have no qualms about attacking or trying to sink a US ship ( Liberty). The carrier would be sunk along with a radiological disaster. Of course, it would be blamed on Iran allowing the neocons to start another war. I played this scenario out on air so millions could hear. Judge Napolitano could verify. I like to think I saved thousands of lives. It was only years later that it was revealed that Cheney did have a plan to attack a US ship during this time. I have no problem being a chicken little.



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 03:09 PM
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Originally posted by glen200376
[the blind leading the blind springs to mind for people like you.why would he need a prayer rug?


OK...maybe he doesn't have a prayer rug right now, but we'll all be required to have a prayer rug if Iran is allowed to carry on.

Anybody that doesn't see Iran for what they are doing is clueless. They kill their own scientists when the situation requires it, and you guys gobble up the lies hook, line, and sinker. Very foolish.



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 03:33 PM
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I suppose the 25,000 Jews who live in Iran and want to live in Iran instead of the Apartheid state of Israel are, according to your way of thinking, gobbling hooks, lines and sinkers as well as owners of prayer rugs.

There are plenty of hooks, lines and sinkers in this wide world and look in the mirror my friend and see it that is indeed not dental floss between your teeth but a length of the line of which you speak.

Israel is the problem




Originally posted by bruwin

Originally posted by glen200376
[the blind leading the blind springs to mind for people like you.why would he need a prayer rug?


OK...maybe he doesn't have a prayer rug right now, but we'll all be required to have a prayer rug if Iran is allowed to carry on.

Anybody that doesn't see Iran for what they are doing is clueless. They kill their own scientists when the situation requires it, and you guys gobble up the lies hook, line, and sinker. Very foolish.



posted on Jan, 16 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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Sorry Bravo, I was usually on the road when I called. I sometimes called 3 or 4 radio programs a day. I never signed up for their podcast. Some people thought I was a Democratic operative, but I was just a regular guy trying to change the world. I started calling in 2004 and stopped in 2009. I got into a little bit of trouble and also became discouraged with the direction Obama took. The few postings I do on this forum are my little indulgence. Maybe I will start again. I learned that most people are in a semi-hypnotic state when driving and are easily influenced. I would try and hit the early morning drive and late afternoon show to reach the most listeners. I kept the name that they would refer to me by.



posted on Jan, 16 2012 @ 04:59 PM
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This is what will happen US/Israel goad Iran into attack or do a false flag if Iran doesn't fall for it. US and Israel are attacked by Iran and vice versa. China realizes it's economy the real target of this war, liquidates dollar assets and then seizes American corporate assets in China as war spoils. US threatens nuclear war with China 80/20 chance of nuclear war to surrender to Chinese. Either way US and world economy collapses and at least limited nuclear conflict is inevitable at some point.

My guess is: At first detonation wave of nuclear weapons, Huge UFO's appear and 3 days of darkness occurs. People find themselves either "surviving" the war or "waking" in a new and repaired earth. The earth is uploaded into a matrix on board the UFO's and a simulation is run on the results of the war for all those who chose Fear over Love.



posted on Jan, 16 2012 @ 07:27 PM
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Bravo I'm sorry I made a mistake. It was 2007 when I made the call, and I believe the carriers were the Stennis, Eisenhower, Nimitz, and Enterprise. Seymour Hersh came out with his article in 2008.



posted on Jan, 16 2012 @ 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by Curio
I think whatever happens it will come out of the blue from Israel. We might wake up in the morning to find that they've bombed Iran's nuclear facilities. No warning, no specific provocation from Iran, no real tipping point....just Israel deciding the time is right.


When the time is right would be January 20 - January 26 because that's when there's no moon over Iran and the skies are black.



posted on Jan, 16 2012 @ 08:38 PM
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Any kind of military action in the area would spike oil prices. That would lead you to think that this might end up being primarily just short term naval hostilities. Oil prices would rise sharply this spring in response and collapse later in the year in such a scenario.

There is a lot of desert in Iran but its primarily rolling sand dunes and might not make as good a theater for battle as the more classic desert locations like North Africa in WW2. In any event I doubt we will be able to call the military strategists, there are too many possibilities to get buried in.

Its a complex situation when you are watching Iran and plotting military strategy, you need to look beyond Iran to Iran's allies such as Russia. My guess is that they might choose a Wednesday in January to set the dominoes in motion.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 09:16 PM
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Okay - well, I do think you should get that out there.

I think sometimes people in the military are surrounded by certain realities that everyone around them knows so they think everyone everywhere knows - but they don't.

Call old leather lungs, Alex Jones. He tends toward the pro-Israeli side but does allow a bit of comment on Israel at least, unlike virtually all of the other radio hosts.

Thanks again.


Originally posted by BillfromCovina
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Sorry Bravo, I was usually on the road when I called. I sometimes called 3 or 4 radio programs a day. I never signed up for their podcast. Some people thought I was a Democratic operative, but I was just a regular guy trying to change the world. I started calling in 2004 and stopped in 2009. I got into a little bit of trouble and also became discouraged with the direction Obama took. The few postings I do on this forum are my little indulgence. Maybe I will start again. I learned that most people are in a semi-hypnotic state when driving and are easily influenced. I would try and hit the early morning drive and late afternoon show to reach the most listeners. I kept the name that they would refer to me by.





posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 09:42 PM
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It would be in Iran's best interests to strike first. The best way for them to strike are through dirty bombs in key u.s citys as well as calling on extremists to carry out attacks on key u.s assets at home and abroad mainly targeting food and water assets, the importation of foot and mouth into any country is a major threat, but for a country who's main diet revolves around beef it would be utter chaos and the cost in the 10s of billions if not hundreds as I assume most Fastfood containing beef is consumed with softdrinks, I've always looked at coca cola as a key indicator if America is in dire straits. It would make sense if N.Korea started attacking Seoul as it would influence America to redistribute an already stretched navy in terms of air power as all or nearly all installations are dug in. Also those menacing missiles that the palestinian people keep firing into Israel could be modified to carry bio/chem material maybe even attach some napalm to them,all that choking smoke would wreak certain havoc for a prolonged period of time. Iran should be able to have a nuclear power source if they have been more compliant in the past than Israel has ever been...I really can't see a false flag attack being carried out though because everyone's intentions are on the table and all it will take is a push and shove mOmentum to get the ball rolling. Come what may. (those missiles number in the 10s of thousands probably over 50thousand)
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posted on Jan, 27 2012 @ 02:42 PM
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It seems that every week we have a new angle on Iran.

Can't people see that the problem is not Iran but Israel.

Iran wants to avoid war and Israel is trying to do everything to start war.

If Israel wanted to go to war on its own that is one thing but they want American Christians to die for Israel.

Israel is the problem





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