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Ron Paul Supporters Hack Twitter Accounts to SPAM Fake Support

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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 12:48 PM
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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 12:52 PM
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I could actually stand Ron Paul, if it wasn't for his supporters.

Sure he is a bit kooky, and his foreign policy would be a disaster, but mainly I could never align myself with him because of his cult-like supporters.

They are pretty creepy.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by squidboy


Odd that this only happened with Interscope artists.

Silly Hackers... Why didn't they go after artists on different labels? Why only musicians? Why not people that have more followers like Ashton Kutcher? Or why not just hack every body. But not, just a handful of artists.

Do you people actually believe every person on Twitter handles their own personal twitter account? In most cases with the famous, it's an assistant or Public relations person. The more famous the person, the more likely it's not that person.

Why only musicians from Interscope? Interscope is a conglomerate of Universal Music Group, which is then owned by Vivendi.

In effect Vivendi (a Company most people have never even heard of) owns Interscope... So who was the first news agency to report this hack? Rolling Stone.

Who owns Rolling Stone? Who oversees Rollingstone.com? Follow the trail and it's.... Vivendi.

www.vivendi.com...

Yeah, no connection there (sarcasm).



So why not address that?



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 01:02 PM
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Which supporters?
I am curious. Do you have some personal experience? A Youtube video perhaps? If you could bring something substantial, I might even join the fearful club.
It seems so many are afraid of a little old constitutional, liberty lover and his hard working supporters. I must be missing something, like, what are you afraid of?
I know one whom has posted here thinks the "states" are just itching to lynch a negro, and if it weren't for the federal government separating whitey and blackey who knows what will happen. I just don't share the fear I guess.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 01:04 PM
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Address what?

A fantasy that was created inside someones mind that has no backing at all???


Hey...Maybe aliens hacked the accounts and blamed it on Ron Paul...which means...maybe Ron Paul is an alien.



You can go see my first post on this thread...this is the Ron Paul supporters playbook. They can't comprehend that there are complete morons that support Ron Paul...because they like to categorize themselves as superior intelligent people.

Deny Deny Deny...that is what Ron Paul supporters do when ANYTHING negative connected to Ron Paul comes up.

It's actually kind of funny.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 01:04 PM
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Caught out again, eh cult of Ron Paul



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 01:05 PM
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see this is why im not voting for him....

supporters like this make me sick



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by kozmo
I see the resident Marxist/Socialist/Communist forum members are already busy at work making sad and sorry attempts to discredit Dr, Paul. There are headlines now showing that even Democrats are supporting Dr. Paul over any Democrat candidate. The "Don't take my entitlements away" crowd are getting scared and resorting to some pretty sad tactics.

Get used to it Libs, REAL change is coming and it WON'T resemble the hand-out utopia you've been advocating!


Interesting set of assumptions. I doubt you know what you are talking about vis a vis the OP, and I know damn good and well you don't know what you are talking about vis a vis myself.

This is just a discussion about some activities on the political front, where initial evidence seems to implicate RP supporters as having been up to hijinks.

Now, this could be taken on as a discussion, with various points of view being expressed. However, I'm seeing a fair amount of defensiveness on the part of self-described RP supporters in this thread.

This may indeed be a miserable attempt by somebody to discredit Paul. Or it may indeed be some inappropriate behavior on the part of some Paul supporters.

This is hardly an end of the world situation... I'm still on the fence regarding Paul, and whether this hacking was done by his supporters or not will not factor in to my final decision... I frankly don't care that much about this.

Still, the defensivenss is interesting...



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher

They can't comprehend that there are complete morons that support Ron Paul


So then you have some sort of proof this was in fact done by Paul supporters? With as many attempts that have been made for years to discredit Paul supporters and make them out to be kooks forgive me if I don't automatically believe it.



...because they like to categorize themselves as superior intelligent people.


Intelligent enough not to believe it just because someone says it was his supporters without any proof.




It's actually kind of funny.


Only thing funny is how you pop into any Paul thread with the intention of doing anything you can to discredit the thread or author of that thread.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 01:32 PM
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This completely unimportant

Ron Paul cannot control people

It does not reflect anything about Ron Paul at all

what about the Huntsman video that was created by Huntsman people that painted Huntsman as a 'Manchurian candidate' and at the end said 'vote for Ron Paul"

Apparently Huntsman himself was aware of the deception.

Now that is something that reflects on Huntsman himself



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
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Can someone please link me to me to an official twitter statement that states this occurred?


That what occured...that the hacking and posting Ron Paul endorsements occured???

I don't think it is in doubt that it occured...all the artists have tweets about their accounts being hacked on their twitter accounts.

twitter.com...#!/riseagainst

We were hacked. As you would all assume, We DO NOT support Ron Paul.


twitter.com...#!/nodoubt

Our Twitter account was hacked last night. No political endorsements at this time. Love, No Doubt



Are you honestly trying to say that this event didn't happen at all???


I'm honestly asking for a statement from twitter (the company) saying that the accounts were hacked from an outside party and I'm also wondering who the "person" was. Usually when allegations of hacking occur, there is usually a person found to be responsible.

After all, hacking is a criminal act.

I am calling into question the ability for for a News Source (in this case Rolling Stone who broke the story) to state that an account was "hacked" when both the source and those accounts that were hacked are owned by the same Media Conglomerate.

I am not saying the event didn't happen.

I am saying that until a criminal act is investigated upon, this is nothing more then slanderous hearsay.

Anyone can post anything onto twitter on their account, and claim it was hacked. Was anything ever reported to proper authorities?

www.cybercrime.gov...

If so, can you please provide a link showing this investigation and how it ties to Ron Paul's campaign in any way?

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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by _BoneZ_
The military-industrial complex and corporate interests do not want to see Ron Paul in power. They are going to do anything and everything they can to discredit him and his supporters. This is a fact, whether you like it or not.


Anything and everything includes the Super Pac's pouring big money into commercials supporting Gingrich,
Santorum,Perry and Huntsman. Even though they lack the money to even stay in the race.
ABM ( anybody but Mitt) but not Paul.




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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by Open_Minded Skeptic


This is just a discussion about some activities on the political front, where initial evidence seems to implicate RP supporters as having been up to hijinks.


What initial evidence? Am I missing something here? Not being a smart ass, I just haven't seen any evidence pointing to Paul supporters other than opinions.


Now, this could be taken on as a discussion, with various points of view being expressed. However, I'm seeing a fair amount of defensiveness on the part of self-described RP supporters in this thread.
That's because true Paul supporters wouldn't stoop to this. I have no doubts there are some idiots that support him but, show me one politician that doesn't have morons following him/her.


This may indeed be a miserable attempt by somebody to discredit Paul. Or it may indeed be some inappropriate behavior on the part of some Paul supporters.
With all the things I've seen used over the years to try and discredit Paul I believe it's yet another attempt against him but it could be some supporter that did it. Unlike most in Paul threads I don't just jump on the Paul's supporters are morons wagon.


I'm still on the fence regarding Paul, and whether this hacking was done by his supporters I frankly don't care that much about this.


As am I. Just because someone says it was his supporters doesn't make it so. If there was some proof it was indeed his supporters still doesn't mean anything. Every politician out there has some idiot that supports them.


Still, the defensiveness is interesting...


Why is it interesting? The only thing I see being defended is the fact that there are a few in this thread that are just drooling over being able to call his supporters idiots and morons without it being proven it was someone supporting him. To me it's no more interesting that the posters that flock to Obama threads to defend everything he does and doesn't do.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 02:09 PM
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Originally posted by Simon_Boudreaux

Originally posted by Open_Minded Skeptic


This is just a discussion about some activities on the political front, where initial evidence seems to implicate RP supporters as having been up to hijinks.


What initial evidence? Am I missing something here? Not being a smart ass, I just haven't seen any evidence pointing to Paul supporters other than opinions.


Good point. Replace my choice of "evidence" with "appearance".




Still, the defensiveness is interesting...


Why is it interesting? The only thing I see being defended is the fact that there are a few in this thread that are just drooling over being able to call his supporters idiots and morons without it being proven it was someone supporting him. To me it's no more interesting that the posters that flock to Obama threads to defend everything he does and doesn't do.


Interesting in the context of the post to which I was replying. I have not been following or participating in RP threads in general; not that interested.

But I found the assumptions that anyone who might question Paul is a


resident Marxist/Socialist/Communist forum member


and member of

The "Don't take my entitlements away" crowd
who is advocating a

hand-out utopia
to be interesting.

To me, that phraseology is not indicative of a reasonable or even semi-reasonable discussion, it is - to me - more an incoherent spewing of some mix of talking points.

This is by far not the only thread where this kind of "discussion" takes place... some Obama threads make the worst of the worst of the claims against Paul a mere Sunday drive.

I always find the kind of "discussion" discussed here to be interesting...



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 02:14 PM
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I am not trying to discredit Ron Paul! I may vote for Ron Paul. This is about the overzealous supporters.

I have been sending a message to his supporters that SOME of them are scaring the public with their behaviors. You say Ron Paul supporters wouldn't do this, but they are a VERY diverse group. They do not think with one mind. To think that all Ron Paul supporters are good people and wouldn't stoop to this kind of behavior is just naive.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
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I am not trying to discredit Ron Paul! I may vote for Ron Paul. This is about the overzealous supporters.

I have been sending a message to his supporters that SOME of them are scaring the public with their behaviors. You say Ron Paul supporters wouldn't do this, but they are a VERY diverse group. They do not think with one mind. To think that all Ron Paul supporters are good people and wouldn't stoop to this kind of behavior is just naive.


I agree with this statement 99 percent. Support of Ron Paul is a growing. And yes his supporters are a diverse group.

But without any investigation (and yes hacking is a criminal offense reportable to the FBI, Secret Service, so forth) it is slanderous for Rolling Stone to even report it as fact. There is no suspect. Just a group of supporters that are labeled as devious, because a Candidates name was used with the "hack." The whole story, without an investigation lacks merit.

Another way to look at it.

A supporter of Candidate A hacks into the account of a supporter of Candidate B, and claim support for Candidate A. Supporter of Candidate B reports Hack. News reports hacking, supporters of Candidate A face criticism.

Supporters of Candidate B post support for Candidate A. Supporters of Candidate B reports hack. News reports hacking, supporters of candidate A face criticism.

The problem is in both instances, supporters of candidate A will face criticism.

I'm not claiming that all Ron Paul supporters are of sound mind, but anyone hacking a famous person's account would know that eventually the hack will come out. So if you support Ron Paul, why even risk a negative smear campaign in the process? It makes zero sense.

If a Ron Paul supporter is cleaver enough to know how to crack the passwords of several "famous" users within a short span of time. Wouldn't they also be clever enough to understand that the action would backfire during this age of social media? Wouldn't they fear the ramifications of committing a federal offense that's easy to track? Why would they focus their efforts of artists from the same record label? Why wouldn't they focus their efforts on famous twitter users with the highest follower counts? Why risk smearing your candidate in the process for zero payoff?

I guess I'm over analyzing the fact that the hacked parties belonged to the same company that reported the story, but at least that's a verifiable fact.

Something the reported story lacks; without an investigation from the proper Federal authorities as this is a major offense, the story is just hearsay. Again, I've searched and found nothing in regards to an investigation .

If some one links me with one I'll retract everything I've said within this thread. Is there even an investigation?

In the very least Twitter should release an official statement. Considering that our current President is on twitter, and his account is susceptible to hacking, along with almost every leader in the world, they should address this security flaw.

Am I wrong for asking for this?

I'm guessing no investigation will be launched, because the parties involved do not want to formally (legally) file a complaint. I wonder why.


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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I am not trying to discredit Ron Paul! I may vote for Ron Paul. This is about the overzealous supporters.


I wasn't referring to you BH. I don't think I've ever seen you try to discredit him or anyone else ( not without at least providing some evidence or proof). I'm referring to those that use any chance they can to try it, even when there isn't proof and only opinions. I don't doubt for a second there are overzealous supporters, there always are.


I have been sending a message to his supporters that SOME of them are scaring the public with their behaviors. You say Ron Paul supporters wouldn't do this, but they are a VERY diverse group. They do not think with one mind. To think that all Ron Paul supporters are good people and wouldn't stoop to this kind of behavior is just naive.


I didn't say all of them are good. I said the true supporters wouldn't stoop to this. They know they don't need to resort to things like this. When I say true supporters I mean those that have been behind him for years.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by Open_Minded Skeptic


Interesting in the context of the post to which I was replying. I have not been following or participating in RP threads in general; not that interested.

But I found the assumptions that anyone who might question Paul is a


resident Marxist/Socialist/Communist forum member


and member of

The "Don't take my entitlements away" crowd
who is advocating a

hand-out utopia
to be interesting.

To me, that phraseology is not indicative of a reasonable or even semi-reasonable discussion, it is - to me - more an incoherent spewing of some mix of talking points.

This is by far not the only thread where this kind of "discussion" takes place... some Obama threads make the worst of the worst of the claims against Paul a mere Sunday drive.

I always find the kind of "discussion" discussed here to be interesting...


Ahhh. That makes sense then. Good point.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 03:32 PM
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Thank you for the great reply.
I agree that we have no way of knowing if Paul's supporters actually did this. This was reported and when I saw the story, it related to some of the stuff I've said about overzealous Paul supporters here on ATS and with CNN's Dana Bash. So, I posted it.


And I'm not the only one speaking this message: Glenn, Pat, Stu Caution Overzealous Paul Supporters: You Make Him Less Attractive to the Average Person

(Not that I'm proud to be on that particular list!
But even a broken clock is right twice a day.)


Originally posted by squidboy
So if you support Ron Paul, why even risk a negative smear campaign in the process? It makes zero sense.


The answer to this is above. But I want to make the point that just because I support someone, that doesn't mean I'm going to keep quiet about something that's potentially damaging to my guy. I hate that kind of thinking. I want to know everything and make an educated decision.

Secondly, I do support some of what Paul stands for, but I haven't put my support behind anyone yet. But who I support is irrelevant to this subject.



If a Ron Paul supporter is cleaver enough to know how to crack the passwords of several "famous" users within a short span of time.


I don't know how long it took them to crack the passwords. They could have been working for two weeks. Is that short for password hacking?




Wouldn't they fear the ramifications of committing a federal offense that's easy to track?


Yes. But so would any hacker, right? Any hacker is going to fear the consequences of their crime. And yet it happens all the time.


Why wouldn't they focus their efforts on famous twitter users with the highest follower counts?


Do you know the stats on No Doubt's Twitter page? I don't.




Something the reported story lacks; without an investigation from the proper Federal authorities as this is a major offense, the story is just hearsay.


You're right.

To the subject and intent of my thread, have you guys seen these? They're hilarious, no matter who you support! I've said that Paul's supporters sound like some of Obama's supporters (perhaps even me
) 4 years ago...


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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by squidboy
 





Originally posted by squidboy
So if you support Ron Paul, why even risk a negative smear campaign in the process? It makes zero sense.


The answer to this is above. But I want to make the point that just because I support someone, that doesn't mean I'm going to keep quiet about something that's potentially damaging to my guy. I hate that kind of thinking. I want to know everything and make an educated decision.


Oh, Sorry for the confusion. I wasn't singling you out with those questions or statements... The "you" in that question about a RP supporting risking the negative smear campaign was about a "rhetorical Paul supporter who decides to hack" and not specifically you.

The rest of the questions and commentary are in regards to the story, not your personal post, but thank you in regards to actually commenting on my objections to this news story.

I'm just wondering when we will see an investigation. I'm this close to reporting it to the FBI myself, just to see what will come of it. It's rather pointless to debate about who was responsible for the messages, without an investigation. The FBI recently investigated the hacking of NBC's twitter, so where's the investigation here?



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