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Court acquits teacher who seduced teen

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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 05:55 AM
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Court acquits teacher who seduced teen


www.thelocal.de

A teacher who seduced a 14-year-old schoolgirl and had sex with her at least 22 times has escaped punishment after a German court ruled that as he did not teach her class, he had not abused his position.

Generally people over 21 can have sex with 14-year-olds unless they abuse the younger partner's "lack of capacity for sexual self-determination" or are in position of power over them.
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edit on 13-1-2012 by Hellas because: (no reason given)




posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 05:55 AM
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It goes on saying that

"The 32-year-old man had only taught the girl’s class a few times as a substitute teacher, which the court decided was not enough to classify her as his ward."

What has this world come to...

You're not a pedophile if you have sex with somebody above the age of 14!!

In my opinion this has started something very bad in Germany! In Germany every other day a Child is missing and/or found murdered and sexually abused.

This is not good news

www.thelocal.de
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 06:00 AM
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Don't forget the laws on age of consent in countries like Germany may be different from the US. if this is the case then unless there is an abuse of power, then it is not, as the subject has the ability to consent.

it does vary from country to country for example in the Netherlands I think the age limit is 12. although it may be "legal" I do agree that in this case. (with such an age difference) it is very distasteful, even, I would say, very suspect as to the motivation..
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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 06:02 AM
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Originally posted by JakiusFogg
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Don't forget the laws on age of consent in countries like Germany may be different from the US. if this is the case then unless there is an abuse of power, then it is not, as the subject has the ability to consent.

it does vary from country to country for example in the Netherlands I think the age limit is 12.


Are you serious?? 12??

either 12 or 14, they're still Children.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 06:04 AM
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Originally posted by Hellas


It goes on saying that

"The 32-year-old man had only taught the girl’s class a few times as a substitute teacher, which the court decided was not enough to classify her as his ward."

What has this world come to...

You're not a pedophile if you have sex with somebody above the age of 14!!

In my opinion this has started something very bad in Germany! In Germany every other day a Child is missing and/or found murdered and sexually abused.

This is not good news

www.thelocal.de
(visit the link for the full news article)


Here is my argument...

You can charge a fourteen year-old with murder and sentence them to life in prison, but you can't let them decide to have sex or not...

If the girl pressed charges, then hang the bastard high and dry...

Otherwise, don't condemn another country for its foreign laws until you take a look at some of ours...



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 06:07 AM
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Here is my argument...

You can charge a fourteen year-old with murder and sentence them to life in prison, but you can't let them decide to have sex or not...

If the girl pressed charges, then hang the bastard high and dry...

Otherwise, don't condemn another country for its foreign laws until you take a look at some of ours...



Let her have all the sex she wants, but with a 14 or 15 year old boy. Not with a 32 year old Man!

Imagine you walk in to Starbucks and see a guy that age making out with a 14 year old girl. Something can't be right with that picture
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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 06:08 AM
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hell,we should consensual sex and marriage between adults and teenagers. It could solve a lot of problems in society.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 06:17 AM
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Not that I am condoning the behavior of the people involved, but something that always strikes me as odd about people's positions with this stuff...

even 100 years ago, it was "unnatural" for a girl 14-16 to be unmarried and already having kids. No one would blink an eye at something like this article is talking about.

Yet, somehow, within 100 years, we have "devolved" physiologically to the point that until someone is 18 they are still considered a "child".

I just think it's funny how things work out,



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 06:20 AM
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What about what SHE wants? Ever considered that?

Maybe she didnt want to have sex with guys her age, maybe she was attracted to this guy.

Why does age have to matter to you if two people want each other? And why do you have to try to prevent other people to get what their heart desire?



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 06:32 AM
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Originally posted by Hellas
Let her have all the sex she wants, but with a 14 or 15 year old boy. Not with a 32 year old Man!


That's my opinion too.

Highly unethical, but unfortunately, legal.

A 32yo man would have money etc and could manipulate her far more easily then a boy near her own age too.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 06:36 AM
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Originally posted by NuclearPaul

Originally posted by Hellas
Let her have all the sex she wants, but with a 14 or 15 year old boy. Not with a 32 year old Man!


That's my opinion too.

Highly unethical, but unfortunately, legal.

A 32yo man would have money etc and could manipulate her far more easily then a boy near her own age too.


Could have. Doesn´t mean he did, or would have.

Also that would only work if she was the "golddigger" type.

Alot of assumptions there...



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 08:03 AM
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In the interests of accuracy as I DO NOT condone this in any way and find it astonishing that somehow no law was broken, he is not a 'pedophile' and nor is anyone that doesn't have a preference for PRE-pubescent children.
In the interests of accuracy I find it annoying that this term is thrown around by people who generally seem to have no knowledge of what it means.

Some definitions so people can educate themselves:

Pedophilia

Hebephilia

Ephebophilia

The teacher is either a hebephile or ephebophile depending on her physical maturity and NOT a pedophile based on this case. A pedophile is the lowest of the lows.

In any case, I think it is disgusting that in a civilised country however that this can go unpunished and is 'technically' 'OK'.
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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 08:17 AM
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Every time this happens I cant help but wonder what the outrage is based on.

She wasnt raped. At her age I was sexually active with older women. I knew what I was doing. I had a blast. At her age people are given life sentences for crimes. What swings the perception pendulum?

Media likes to selectively pick its descriptions. Depending on the action involved it can be an 18 year old boy, a 16 year old man, a 15 year old teenager or a 16 year old young adult. It all depends on what the media wants you to see. Those 18 year old soldiers are all "boys" but the 16 year old mugger is a "young adult" or even more blatantly an "adult."

I wonder the same when somebody gets caught with porn and commentators go nuts with threats of death and castration. Well, that Urban Outfitters shirt with a crotch shot of a 15 year old girl on it is pretty outrageous. Clearly there is a difference between a bunch of 15 year old crotch shots or even nude shots and the raping of a toddler. But what is the image that most minds in the public immediately jump to? The toddler raping sicko. Unless they honestly want to castrate somebody wearing an Urban Outfitters t-shirt.

It just occurred to me that given the popular treatment of women in the world that much of this outrage could be rooted in a common belief that women are stupid. All of this daughter protection and the unequal treatment of male and female perpetrators can, to me at least, be boiled down to "women are too stupid to take care of themselves." They go from "maturing before boys" to "being taken advantage of by boys." Because they are stupid? Is every heroic rise to protect a poor taken advantage of female really an proclamation of female stupidity? And is someone like me just giving them more credit than they deserve since I'm not jumping on the "protection" bandwagon?
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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 08:58 AM
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A lot of countries have different age of consent laws.. it's not 18 everywhere, in fact, in most US states it's not even 18. Where I grew up the age of consent was 16. Same states have lower age of consents like 17 or 16 with a certain time frame (like you cannot be more than 6yrs older)

But in the USA most states it's 16, not 18. Only a few countries is it 18.. 18 is simply the international standard for pornography.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 09:05 AM
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For anyone interested in the 'Age of Consent' around the world, a good place to start is on Wikipedia here:

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 10:01 AM
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Looking at the map, the age of consent is 13, 14, and 15 across much of Europe, she was probably of age, or very close to it.

en.wikipedia.org...

In Canada, it's 16 everywhere.

In the article it states that it's been 5 years and she's still in therapy. If she's still in therapy at 19, she clearly wasn't mature enough, and he should have stayed away.

5 years is a really long time for therapy over something like this, there must be other issues too. Our teen years are the time we bounce back unaffected by most things.


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