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www.aviationmuseum.eu...

I'm not sure why the link didn't work the first time. However, I suspect pilot error. ;-)

I used the wayback machine on archive.org to find some of the information, then knowing what to look for, I got the other, more obscure links.

I've talked to aircraft salvage people. It is a tricky business. There is a trade off between selling useful parts versus scrap metal and precious metal recovery. [Plenty of gold on aircraft.] They literally leave the aircraft sitting around for years until it makes sense to pull the plug.

I have "toured" the Mojave airport boneyard. It requires a cash deal with the right people. I'm not sure they still "accept donations" since some of the tenants got pissed. [I have photos of the pods Fedex uses for countermeasures to SAMs. That is the only self censorship I ever did. Now they are public knowledge.] The boneyard at Victorville can be toured a bit more above the counter. However, their junk isn't nearly as cool as at Mojave.

Back to the P-3, it is often a function of what parts are interchangeable with commercial aircraft. If the part only fits a P-3, then the demand isn't as great as if the part goes on something more standard. The flow is actually going the other way these days. Many of the more standard military aircraft are getting parts from commercial aircraft.

dev.designfax.net...

reply to post by gariac

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Yes, I remember that the turbines were really the same stock as what was in the Electra, but there were mods for military endurance and auxiliary equipment as I was told. United used to fly a large stock of Electra, and I wonder how many of those civilian planes are still active and if parts in the engine were truly interchangeable. Your research has shown me some great links to investigate and is a lot of fun, thanks!

Originally posted by indy0725
reply to post by charlyv

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there are people in here that "know a lot more than i do" so that makes it a vaild arguement?wow.I don't have a bad attitude I'm just saying I think you're full of it.I don't really believe they;d just let some random plane land at area 51 that was having problems.I mean i understand its a military plane but I'm just not buying it.

That is just my point, and you came out and illustrated it exactly. You could have said that I may have landed some where else, or I was mistaken and we landed close to Area 51, but you did not. You said I was "Full of It" so, there we have the demarcation point.

That is the dis-respectful part, and it flies in the face of everyone on here that is interested in this story. You DO have a bad attitude, and you obviously know nothing about this area of interest in what we are talking about, so why even bother to register an opinion unless it is constructive?

I am not asking anyone to BUY anything. What would you say if someone told you that you were "Full of It"? You define what ATS has been reprimanding many about mutual respect. You need to check that "attitude" at the door when you post in this forum , if you want to ever contribute here , and get the same respect from the rest of us.

I will use the star rating to see how people here agree with what has been disgussed in this little controversy.

reply to post by charlyv

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Hi CharlyV.

I just wanted to thank you for an excellent post, and the usual analysis and discussion from Garic et al has been on form as always.

Please ignore indy0725, he's obviously just a troll trying to provoke a reaction from you. Ignore him and his uneducated, illiterate little brain will get bored and he'll crawl back under his rock.

Thanks again for your excellent posts.

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