The Final Ultimatum, page 2
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reply posted on 12-2-2012 @ 04:46 PM by CosmicEgg
reply to post by Puddles



No pope has ever had anything to do with God. They are all about the control. That's what churches do. They control and blind.

Surely you know that though. Surely you weren't serious....


reply posted on 18-3-2012 @ 02:23 AM by Ghost375
Originally posted by AceWombat04
So is this an amorphous, broadly interpretable, unfalsifiable prediction open to interpretation until many months from now when and if the final date passes either in fulfillment of it, or without incident? Just clarifying. Even the "signs" leading up to it are open to interpretation and are unfalsifiable. "Something" called natural but "not" will happen could include an unbelievably long list of things, you must admit. You could have made that prediction during multiple years since the AGW alarm bells started going off, and would have still been potentially correct depending upon how it was interpreted. (Oh but you said we'd still be able to "deny" the prophecy at this point, so it actually fulfills it in that sense. I forgot. Not being snarky. I actually did forget. Though that's another good example of an unfalsifiable prediction.)

Anyhow, because this early stage is still so broadly interpretable and undefined, we have to wait until later stages of the prediction to verify it. Which is fine, of course. We've done it countless times before. What's one more? (Still not asserting that nothing will happen, btw. Just assuming crash position because this has happened so, so many times, and only a fool would ignore such a lengthy and well established pattern.)



You asked me a question in your previous post...and I answered it, sort of. It seems like you already had your mind made up. I feel like this recent post was already your opinion, I could've said anything and you would still give this response. Why wait until after I post, to say this? I give a viable answer that justifies my predictions, and you spout this?
It is well thought out, and logical, I'll give you that and a star. But c'mon, say it before I've been justified, before things fit exactly as I said they would in the exact month. #, I'm pretty sure what I was talking about hasn't even happened yet! Even if 2, or all, of those things fit what I describe. I was talking about ONE thing. I never said it would be the only sign. there will be a lot of important events coming up.

Want specifics? You don't!

a virus so deadly, you'll never be ready.
the money systems wither, it's good to have silver.
strange signs in the skies. you will close your eyes.


reply posted on 18-3-2012 @ 03:43 AM by dawnstar
everything that is predicted to happen in op, I believe is set to happen??

mf global has screwed with the farmers....it will effect their crops and livestock...
the bee decimation will effect the crops...
the crazy weather will effect everything!
the higher gas prices will effect the transportation of the food..
more people are having economic woes.
and on and on....
which is why so many here on ats have been stocking up on food and preparing for the disaster that everyone seems to feel is just around the corner....

we don't need god to tell us, we sense it.

so now, we have god telling us that if we want to live, need to come up with a way to make sure everyone in the world is fed....
we can't even make sure that everyone in our country is fed.
some of us give money to charities, and those charities send their people into countries around the world....to feed their poor....
how many of those people that have been sent have been brutally murdered? how many convoys of food have been raided by the country's gov't support gangs??

it's a nice thought, but I don't believe it is possible at the current state of human evolution.
and I am not a prophet, but I would like to post my own little tidbit here...

judge not, lest ye be judged in like manner!!

if you believe there is a portion of the population that just don't deserve to be taken care of when they are sick, well, don't be surprised if you find yourself sick and going without treatment.

if you believe that some of us are inferior and thus deserving less freedoms and rights, well, don't be surprised to see your rights and freedoms fade from view.

if you think it's perfectly okay for our products to be made far, far away from your home, their toxins dumped in rivers and streams in someone else's back yards.....well, don't be surprised when you see an ecological disaster in your back yard!!!

ya see, before one can see the need to feed the masses of hungry people, on must see those people as having equal value to themselves. ya, people will give to big charities that will then send that money overseas, but then, they can find 150 different reasons as to why they shouldn't help the neighbor down the street who is having a rough time!!!

at the moment, we are just too busy feeding bombs to women in children in and around the middle east to worry about our own hungry masses....ya see, they're muslims, and so well....we are better than them, and they deserve what we are giving them, because well, they're muslims!!!! we're americans, we're the best!! we're number one...and we deserve to have the best!!

and blah, blah, blah... sure god said a year and not an age??


reply posted on 19-3-2012 @ 08:32 PM by AceWombat04
reply to post by Ghost375



No, my mind is never made up until something happens or doesn't happen. As I said, I'm not (and never have) asserting that nothing will happen. That wouldn't be very skeptical of me. I am, however, acknowledging the consistent pattern of unfalsifiable predictions on ATS failing at a rate of 100% since I joined the site many years ago. I feel I would be a fool not to. That doesn't mean I'm dismissing this. As always, I am open to the possibility.

All I'm pointing out - politely and with decorum and all due respect I might add - is that this is currently an unfalsifiable prediction. It gives little in the way of specifics, is open to broad inpertretation until the final phase or date of it, and can neither be proved nor disproved before then.
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