NO MORE OBAMA!
We won't get in to the issues of his birth certificate or his relationship with reverend Wright. Some would see those topics as low blows and not
substantiated enough to even bring up, while others find them both disturbing and important. However, this thread is to discuss the real issues that
have come from the Obama administration over the last 3 years. Everyone is welcome to the discussion, pro and against.
Personally, I don't consider social issues like abortion, religion, what are we allowed to wear etc etc issues that the Federal Government should be
in charge of. So far, none of those issues have ever been handled well, and most definitely not solved by the federal government. It's not #1 on my
list of issues because again, I don't feel that those things belong in this arena in the first place. Some people do though, and they are entitled to
think that way. Feel free to bring up those issues, but I don't plan to spend much time on them.. There is one social issue that has been abused and
hashed/re-hashed by this administration however, and I will bring it up at the end.
Let's get started. These are just a few things on the long list of reasons why I think this president is not presidential material, and has done way
more harm that good. (what good?) These are things he has done/allowed under his presidency so far in the past 3 years.
Luckily, ATS is pretty informed on this one. A brief summary would say that this bill (signed by Obama) is a bill that will allow the U.S. government
to detain any U.S. citizen without trial, without due process to any place of their choosing and for an indefinite amount of time. They can do this if
they have *any* reason at all that leads them to believe you are a "terrorist". They can, and probably will end up abusing this. This is the single
worst bill I think I've ever seen signed by a U.S. president.
Of course president Obama tries to downplay this bill stating that he won't use it to detain U.S. citizens under his administration.
The AP has more from the signing statement: “My administration will not authorize the indefinite military detention without trial of American
citizens. Indeed, I believe that doing so would break with our most important traditions and values as a nation.
That doesn't bring a whole lot of comfort does it? What about the next president? Or the next? Horrible move by Obama. There is never a situation
where we should strip ourselves of civil liberties in the name of "safety". If bills like this keep getting passed, then I really fear for the
direction this nation is taking.
I should not really be surprised that Obama signed this bill, in fact I'm pretty sure he's the one who proposed it. Establishment politicians often
like to act like they don't like their own bills to distract from those parts of it that are bad, making it seem like they changed something when they
didn't. It's really ridiculous. This is further proof to me that Obama has been nothing more than a status quo establishment president who does
nothing but same old same old.
Oh, I should also mention that Obama approved of the Patriot act extension last year.
President Barrack Obama signed legislation Thursday evening extending several key provisions of the Patriot Act shortly before they were set to
expire at midnight.
This one is obvious to many. Some people really like the idea of Obamacare because it supposedly will get rid of all our health-care problems and put
it to bed, but I have a big problem with it. The main reason I oppose this is because it strips us even more of our civil liberties. The government
should have no right to force us into buying anything. This has happened already with some things, like car insurance for example. I didn't agree with
it then (when it came into law), and I don't now. If I get in a car wreck without insurance, my punishment is already brought on by myself for
choosing to opt out. Those penalties would include medical payments and car that is totaled. My fault, my choice. Now we *could* spend time in jail if
we are caught without car insurance.
I once knew a nice lady who had one of those ankle locks and was restricted to house arrest because she didn't have car insurance. Is this really the
route America wants to take? If we stay on this course, what's next? What else will the government tell us we need to spend money on or else face jail
time, or at very least court fees and forced community service?
Another thing I don't like about Obama care, is that it's not clear WHO I'm forced to go see when I get sick. Does anyone like HMO's? I don't. I
rarely go to the doc these days because I hate the way they conduct their service. I mean nothing to them, they could care less if I live or die. When
I go to the doc, I want that Dr./patient relationship. I want to feel like someone is taking their time to help me and understand me. I don't want to
feel like just another number.
These are only 2 reasons Obamacare is bad, there are tons more. So far, it looks like we aren't going to have a choice in the matter.
I won't spend too much time on this, but this one is obvious. I'm not sure any more which party is supposedly anti-war anymore, the dems or is it only
the libertarians with their non-interventionist policy?
Here is the first paragraph from Predident Obama's statement on Libya:
Tonight, the momentum against the Qadhafi regime has reached a tipping point. Tripoli is slipping from the grasp of a tyrant. The Qaddafi regime
is showing signs of collapsing. The people of Libya are showing that the universal pursuit of dignity and freedom is far stronger than the iron fist
of a dictator.
Wow, that's the kind of wording I remember Bush using when we went to Iraq. This is same old same old rhetoric we have been hearing for years and
years. These operations are costing billions and billions, and people just keep buying the nonsense over and over. Even I, as someone who didn't vote
for Obama thought his foreign policy would be a little less...interventionist. I was proven wrong.
Obama was big talk when it came to ending the wars. To me, this is proof that Obama is a sell-out that bowed to the special interests of the same
people behind the Federal Reserve and big banks. That is another topic that I probably won't go into, however.
Some argue that Libya wasn't a "war". We'll it was an offensive front started by a "no fly zone" that escalated into bombings that caused many deaths
led by NATO. Millions of dollars (probably billions?) were spent, and it was approved and stamped by Obama.
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