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Originally posted by FlyersFan
While I don't doubt that Muhammad (a known murderer, thief and liar) could be in Hell, the theological problem with all this is that those in Hell WANT to be there because the alternative is to be with God and they love themselves too much to be able to love God. A soul in Hell wouldn't tell others not to be there, they'd want as many damned souls to join them as possible. That's how much they hate good.
Dante's attitude towards Islam has been a highly controversial topic ever since Miguel Asín Palacios in 1919 shocked the world of Dante scholars and Dante lovers with his thesis that Dante borrowed the central idea, as well as numerous details, of his Commedia from the Islamic tradition of the Al-mirag, that is, of Mohammed's first-person narrative of his journey through Hell and Paradise.
"There is no paradise that Muslims believe. I didn't talk about those false doctrines, it has been changed. Read the Bible it shows you how to get to heaven. There is no heaven is Islam. I didn't write those false theology. Those documents were written by people who tried to imitate me.
Those records become a Bible of Islam that make weakening of the words of Jesus. No way! I had not written those!
Please listen to me!
I'm here in this hell. I am here in the fire of hell. I'm suffering this punishment because I was used by Satan. Do not throw away your lives to Satan.
Do not be loyal to Muhammad. That is the way to hell. (Edit addition: Not sure if Muhammad refers to himself as a third person here, or whether it is the Pastor's interjection.)
Satan is going to use you. Get out of here (Islam).
I didn't want it. I just wanted to be a ruler of a nation. However, it went to the wrong direction.
This is not what I want. I don't want wars.
I initiated many battles and wars to make my own nation.
Do you know why?
Because I was poor as a child.
I started so many wars to make my own nation.
I just wanted to increase my power to win wars.
Why does Islam have changed so much?
If you really want to be loyal to me, disperse and do not listen to your leaders (Muslim leaders).
They are leading so much bad ways.
They are destroying lives."
South Korean pastor, Bo Ra Choi has been seen vision of hell for the last several years. She has seen so many people in hell. She saw Prophet Muhammad was suffering in hell. Muhammad was screaming and shouting not to come to hell. The audio sound was recorded in the local church in South Korea during the worship service. She speaks in Korean what she heard from Muhammad. She also has seen numerous people like former South Korean president, budist monks, etc. Heaven and hell is real place. Jesus is the only way to go to heaven.
Despite the oath(s) of reconciliation, David felt insecure, and so made an alliance with the Philistines, becoming their vassal. Emboldened by this, the Philistines prepared to attack Israel, and Saul led out his army to face them at Mount Gilboa, but before the battle decided to consult the witch of Endor for advice. The witch, unaware of who he was, reminded Saul that the king (i.e. Saul himself) had made witchery a capital offence, but after being assured that Saul wouldn't harm her, the witch conjures up a spirit that was possibly impersonating Samuel, who had previously died (1 Samuel 25:1; 28:3).
Upon seeing "Samuel," Saul fell with his face to the ground and "Samuel" asked Saul, "Why have you disquieted me, to bring me up?" Saul told "Samuel" of the forthcoming battle with the Philistines and that God will not answer him anymore when he prays, and asks for understanding. "Samuel" then told Saul that he will lose the battle and his life
The Bible gives a similar account of a rich man who lived well on earth then died and went to hell where he was visited by Lazarus (Luke 16:19–31). Like Mohammed, the rich man spoke very emphatically about the heat and implored Lazarus to warn his brothers to which Abraham replied that if his brothers didn't listen to Moses and the prophets they wouldn't listen to Lazarus either. In my opinion, anyone who consider's this pastor's message to be disturbing hasn't read the Bible. (Parts of it, maybe.) I don't see the point in getting too nit-picky on the details though, although it would be nice to learn more sometime. Overall, I liked the video and look forward to seeing other similar ones sometime.
What surprises me is that the Muslims haven't gone on the rampage about this. When secularists in the West draw cartoons of the Prophet they go ape, but when South Koreans describe him in hell (the ultimate insult) they ignore it. So that's also a racist double standard: blasphemy, it seems, can only be committed by "Western infidels". But perhaps, unlike Europe, Korea hasn't deliberately encouraged Muslim immigration, so perhaps nobody has noticed, and there's not enough Islamists around to riot. Maybe if they keep provoking with such insults, some Muslims will eventually react, and then the War on Terror can be expanded.
originally posted by: Akragon
reply to post by Pocky
Another one? Really?!?!?
Are you keeping count of your "this person went to hell, and returned to tell us" threads?
You must have at least 50 of them by now...
I'll quote another member here...
Change the frickin record bro