There is Only ONE Conspiracy - Everything Else is Just 'Noise'!

Disclaimer
I want people focusing on the one big, SINGLE, conspiracy portion rather than if TPTBs efforts are benevolent, or not:

I requested that a mod remove the (and, it is benevolent) from the title [Thank you! ] as I dont want peoples feelings to interfere with what my overall purpose of this thread was: that ALL conspiracies that we discuss on this site can be traced back to this one all-encompassing purpose/directive.

Right or wrong - and, appears most folks assume the latter - this does appear to be the case.

Can we at least agree on that?!

There is Only ONE Conspiracy - Everything Else is Just 'Noise'!

To get right to the point, that one conspiracy is simply this: The Advancement and Preservation our species (or, civilization as a whole). Everything else is a means to this end.

Everyone talks about the New World Order* like it's a BAD thing! WHY?

[*and all that it encompasses, from the Bilderberg Group, to the Illuminati, to the CFR, to the TLC, and all other Societies with Secrets!]

Everything that is done and is put in motion by TPTB is meant, NOT for the betterment of YOU, the individual - which is obvious, since all CTs tend to have negative side effects on the individual, or large groups of populations (and, what we discuss here, ad nauseum) - but, they are meant for the bettermeant of US as a SPECIES, or the human race as a whole.

And, there is a LOT of bad stuff out there, that the masses in general cannot handle.

I believe a lot of what goes on and, and is called 'conspiracy' is in reality the efforts by those in the know to 1) prepare for certain inevitabilities, and 2) conceal these facts from the masses (for fear of interference), so that the best efforts can be made to sustain the species - isn't that what it's really all about? Surviving - and, enjoying the ride, as much as you can while you DO.

I'm not prepared to have the 'alien' conversation, at this point - that's a discussion for another thread - but, I will say this: 1) I believe humans (our current version of Homo Sapien) have been on the planet, for between 50,000 to 1/4-Million years. And, 2) I believe that at several periods in our civilization's past, we have a) evolved b) survived through catastrophe c) DE-volved, and 3) evolved all over again, slightly different than previous/other iterations, sometimes developing less and sometimes more in different areas of the sciences.

OrchusGhule said it best in another thread, over here:

It seems that many of you have missed the point.

The bottom line is this: official membership in the Illuminati, the OTO, or any of these other secret organizations is not necessary for you to belong to the great ambition, or to advance its cause. If you are enlightened, then your actions necessarily reveal your unity. The organizations exist merely to protect and advance the knowledge that is imperative for bringing humanity out of the dark ages. They do not exist to be apart from you, or to alienate you. They do not exist for you to follow, or to lead you. It is not even of consequence whether or not the organizations do or do not exist within a coherent structure. What is of consequence is your thought and your action. If you seek to divide the humans of earth by clinging to nationality, religious creed, ethnicity, or any other arbitrary means, you seek to destroy the future of humanity on this planet, and you are the enemy. If you deny these divisions and actively work against the enemy, then you are Illuminated, and you are a friend. This is the only division of any real consequence, and the enemy must be removed through whatever means available.

Continuing...


One of our ultimate goals to achieve in order to align ourselves more with the cosmos and our advanced cosmic neighbors is to exit out of our Class I civilization stage:




However, right now... We are as a whole, unfortunately, a cancer to this planet:

[You may or may not be a fan of Joe Rogan, but he does explain it, pretty well]



Unfortunately, In order to achieve this goal of preservation and advancement YES, many people must die (or not ever be born) in order to accomplish this, efficiently.

If you think about it EVERY OTHER conspiracy out there, you can tie each one back to one of the following (go on, test me):

1) Population control: whether it is the reduction of birth rates, increase in death rates, or elimination of 'undesirables'.

We are the ONLY species on this planet that does not live by the rules of 'survival of the fittest' and natural selection. We see a cheetah kill an elk, a hawk or owl snag a squirrel in its talons, a shark shred a seal, and simply say 'ah, that's just nature' - sometimes it is beautiful, sometimes it is ugly, but it is what it is. Yet, when humans take other humans' life we talk about how tragic it is (and, some of it IS senseless), but most of it has a purpose. It may sound harsh to say, but if you really think about it, a vast majority of the people on this planet do NOTHING to advance us as a civilization, and are a drain on the ones who ARE making the effort. We spend more energy and resources improving birth rates, sustaining our sick elders, and extending lifespans on people that contribute absolutely nothing to this bottom line.

2) Information control: whether it is keeping the other conspiracies under wraps, or removing (assassinating) those individuals who stand in the way of the ultimate goal, etc.. or concealing the FACT that periodically our planet IS decimated by outside forces, which is evident in unexplainable remains of archeaoligical sites all over the globe.

3) Resource control: in order to manage the popluation and acquire the necessary tools to protect the 'chosen ones', whether you are talking about money, water, food, technology, raw materials and workforces to prepare for these certain inevitabilities...

Additionally, continuing points 2 & 3, above, TPTB - and, anyone with a head on their shoulders - realize that, AS we set ourselves up to advance as a civilization that we must periodically contend with outside forces that jeopardize our very existence; asteroid impact, ice ages, super volcano eruptions, coronal mass ejections, [drastic] climate change, self-annihilation, and on and on...

[Cont. from above]

As a point of interest, I recommend everyone who hasn't, to definitely take a look at the thread, Those We Call Cavemen Were Just What Was Left Of Humanity After The Last Time We Destroyed Ourselves

Moreover, I think it's important that people understand that, although it SUCKS for most of us, the intention of these hidden groups that rule the world, secretly, and befall awful circumstances upon most of us, are really thinking of the bigger picture.

I know most of us are familiar with the Georgia Guidestones, but I don't see them as "Sinister" even though This Site purports it as such. Ironically, they DO have this to say, way down the page, which I fervently agree with...

In Conclusion

The Georgia Guidestones are a modern day Rosicrucian manifesto calling for (or announcing) a drastic change in the way the world is managed. The monument is of a great importance in the understanding of the forces covertly shaping today and tomorrow’s world. It materializes into stone the crucial link between secret societies, the world elite and the agenda for a New World Order. The push for a world government, population control and environmentalism are issues that are today discussed on a daily basis in current events. They were not in 1981, when the Guidestones were erected. Can we say that great progress was made?

Many of the rules of the Guidestones do make sense for the preserving of Earth on a long-term basis. But between the idealistic words of the Guidestone’s authors and the actual way these policies would be applied on the masses – by power-hungry and greedy politicians – there is a world of difference. Reading between the lines, the Guidestones require from the masses the loss of many personal liberties and to submit to heightened governmental control on many social issues … not to mention the death of 92.5% of the population…and probably not those of the “elite”. Is the concept of a democracy “by and for the people”, as idealized by the Founding Fathers a mere illusion, a temporary solution until the introduction of socialist world government? Why are the world’s citizens not being consulted in a democratic matter? I guess it is easier for the elites to manufacture consent through mass medias.

Finally, on the Georgia Guidestones [for those who did not click on the link, or know enough already] - I think THESE people have their crap together and understand, completely, how we must 'evolve'
as a civilization if we truly are going to make it, LONG TERM - let's face it, whether you think humans have been on this planet 6,000 years (nope) or 50,000 - 250,000 (more likely), that is nothing in the grand scheme of things. I beleive EVERY conspiracy is an effort to make this vision a reality.

Don't fight it... accept it and let's move on.

And, finally, I also believe that we CAN trace our 'rulers', (those in the know, and who are trying to make this happen) back to the earliest times - ancient Sumeria, to be exact. I believe the Sumerians to be the latest 'Cavemen' to emerge from the last cataclysm and begin life again - originally posted, by me, here...

I've spent a lot of time on this website and other places, and the weird reality is, the more you study about conspiracy theories, the more tangents and rat-holes you are led down.

THEN... it all starts to come to together.

Let's start off with a known. A given....

The Bilderberg Group - an unofficial, annual, invitation-only conference of around 120-140 guests, most of whom are persons of great influence, wealth, and power. It is often viewed as the main Secret Society that governs all others. Its members have known affiliations with every other group (with secrets) from the Freemasons to Skull & Bones to Illuminati to the Council on Foreign Relations to the Tri-lateral Commission to the...

[cont. from above]
Bohemian Club - A collection of some of the most powerful men in the world who meet annually at Bohemain Grove, located at 20601 Bohemian Avenue, in Monte Rio, California for a three-week encampment where, among other things, they conduct a ceremony of worship to a mammoth statue of an owl, also known as...

Moloch or (Molech or Molich) - which was shortened from Bel-Moloch, or "the Bel," as in "Brotherhood of the Bell." This was a trend toward monotheism. Thus, the term Bel-Moloch referred to Moloch, to which all of the gods in the pantheon became a derivative aspect of their "great god" leader...

Marduk – a Mesopotamian / Babylonian God - “ruler of the cosmos” - who's known relatives / associates are...

Anu, Enki, & Enlil – ALL of whom (and more) are discussed in great detail and length in Robert Morning Sky's...

Terra Papers – The supposed “lost history of mankind” (and planet Earth). Dictated/passed down to RMS by his grandfather who was one of six young Native Americans who witnessed the crash of a spaceship in 1947, shortly after the now-famous Roswell incident, and rescued a 'space being' (Bek Ti) from the wreckage, who conveyed this history to them while being nursed back to health. The story, that starts out sounding like fantasy straight from the movie, Star Wars, is replete with characters, and references (to the Annunaki, specifically, but more on that in a sec), that are well known throughout the...

Sumerian Culture – the “Sudden Civilization” that spawned around 4000BC in between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers. They became the most advanced civilization on Earth, creating incredible developments in mathematics, science, astrology, architecture and agriculture and are credited with many inventions such as the early developments of the wheel, military weaponry and cuneiform, the first writing system in the world. Not only that, but they spoke often and about...

The Annunaki – the collective term for their deities meaning something to the effect of 'those of royal blood'. These Gods from the Heavens possessed incredible abilities and knowledge of human genetics. Enki created the first humans, AD.AM and EVE. Enlil created the land that was, ED.EN.

Whether or not you subscribe to Zecharia Sitchin's interpretation of ancient Sumerian 'texts' introduces an entirely new collection of beliefs that range from the amazing (yet, logical) to the bizarre.

So... what conclusion(s) can be draw from all of this?

I think I just gave it to you.

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Sorry, if I jumped around a lot and my thoughts didn't seem to be coherent, but this is a lot of information to digest, and I think the most important part was to get it OUT there.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

-Scott

The betterment of the species must come from the bottom up, starting with personal accountability and a love for your fellow man. It cannot be mandated down from the top. It cannot.

reply to post by Mkoll


I agree with the first part of your post, but have to take issue with the second.

Not to sound elitist, myself, but why would you have decisions that are for the betterment of everyone come from the bottom, when people - the masses - really don't have a perception of the bigger picture that is necessary to have when making such important decisions in the first place.

[Let me be clear. I do not consider myself part of this elite class - but, I DO think that I understand the overall picture better than most]

And, there is NO WAY you read even half of that before replying, and therein lies a bigger problem and perfect example of how things are going awry in this country, and on this planet.

How can it be benevolent?

be·nev·o·lent    [buh-nev-uh-luhnt] Show IPA adjective 1. characterized by or expressing goodwill or kindly feelings: a benevolent attitude; her benevolent smile. 2. desiring to help others; charitable: gifts from several benevolent alumni. 3. intended for benefits rather than profit: a benevolent institution.

dictionary.reference.com...

You should say "beneficial to the architects" of the death and destruction of the many for the few. This is nothing but elitism.
If humanity is bad for the Earth, Earth does not empower some over others to "clean this mess up". That is what religions are for, and this is nothing but religion.

Great Job on this thread, F+S for sure!

Have not read it all yet, but from what i have read so far, it seems to be correct. Most people will probably tend to disagree on things they have not fully researched/understood yet, (as this conclusion can only be understood when you spend alot of time researching basically everything infolved).

Expect alot of dubunking and derailing attempts but Good Luck!

I can attest to the fact that my personal research effort has led me to the same conclusion as yours, at least.

reply to post by SquirrelNutz


Moloch was worshipped by placing babies in the arms of the brass statue of Moloch, heated by fire to red hot. They died, roasted alive. The concept of Moloch is a destructive meme and represents great evil.

The Sumerian society and culture weren't that great. You are attributing things to them that did not arise until centuries, or even millennia, after; or you are ignoring the Canaanite society that preceded (and outlasted) them.

The murder of the many for the survival of the few, as mentioned in your post, IS evil.

There are currently 7 billion people on Earth and we still seem to have resources enough for all. We just need to be more careful and fair in distributing them.

reply to post by SquirrelNutz


The beautiful part is that you don't have to make decisions on behalf of everyone. If everyone accepts responsibility for their actions and try to work in concert with their fellow man to collectively build a better future you don't need anyone telling everyone what to do.

It is the harmonious "constructive interference" of our actions that we should strive for.

Anyways, I cannot fathom how trying to dumb people down and control them in the manners we are seeing in this age where we could be going through a stunning renaissance meshes with your idea at all

Edit: I also admit that I skimmed it, and did not read every word

Originally posted by chr0naut
reply to post by SquirrelNutz

 

Moloch was worshipped by placing babies in the arms of the brass statue of Moloch, heated by fire to red hot. They died, roasted alive. The concept of Moloch is a destructive meme and represents great evil.

What you are talking is about rituals by societies that were far less enlightened and educated than the current.
What's your point? Seem irrelevant to this discussion.

The Sumerian society and culture weren't that great. You are attributing things to them that did not arise until centuries, or even millennia, after; or you are ignoring the Canaanite society that preceded (and outlasted) them.

Maybe I am confusing them - either way, to state that they 'weren't that great' is a gross inaccuracy.

The murder of the many for the survival of the few, as mentioned in your post, IS evil.

Really? By what definition? Yours? Remember we're talking about a greater cause, here. You clearly did not read the entire (3) posts. What you say is 'evil' is necessary for the overall greater (percepted) good. IMHO, all this 'murder of the many' would not even be necessary if we live 'correctly' in the first place.

There are currently 7 billion people on Earth and we still seem to have resources enough for all. We just need to be more careful and fair in distributing them.

Do NOT agree with the first statement. Certainly agree with the second.

reply to post by SquirrelNutz


I can agree that if our history is being guided by outside influences such as aliens or higher beings or somesuch, I think that it is very hard or even impossible to try to fit their actions to our morality.

We think in a black and white morality while theirs is purple and orange, so to speak.

reply to post by chr0naut


It is not about "having enough food for everyone" it is about hitting the point of no return.

Like a black hole, once you hit this point there is no going back.

This point is hit at the same time that we start to consume resources at a greater rate then they can be naturally replenished by the earth.

We already hit this point at the start of the industrial revolution in some ways, when we started sucking the oil out of the earths core. And this is not the only "point of no return" we have hit since. Since then, the human "infection" has spread exponentially.

In the case of oil, this can be slowed down ONLY with another valid source of energy to replace it with, so that we can stop draining the oil at this non-replenishable rate.

the LENR tech might be the savior for awhile in the energy department, but there are still many areas we need to improve in unless we want to become extinct.

reply to post by SquirrelNutz


So, you think that the murder of 6 billion people, to save us from a crisis that may not even actually exist, is benevolent?

Perhaps Hitler benevolently instigated death camps?

On a slightly different tack, remember Anders Breivik who set off bombs in Oslo and then killed children at a resort on Utoya Island? He did it because he was "defending" against the Muslims. But, there was no Muslim threat and he only killed children of his countrymen, most of whom were not Muslim. He was both as nutty as a fruitcake and as deluded as those who wrote the Georgia Guidestones.

Lastly, what do you think the odds are that you are NOT one of those 6 billion about to be murdered? Since you are probably not fabulously wealthy and enjoying a political position of privilege, not too good, I'd guess. If they were coming after you, would you appreciate their benevolence?

Very excellent thread. Great presentation of information.

I do understand the point of view that you have concluded about the facts. I understand the logic of this way of thinking. But I'm not willing to "sell my soul to the devil" to support this agenda.

'TPTB' Are Afraid
You see my friend, these 'elitists' are operating from a place of fear and egotism. R-Complex and Left-Hemisphere rules them. They fear the future and manifest this fear as the control system we see ever emerging. In order to feel stable and safe, they seek to subjugate their fellow man according to what their logic tells them is the right direction for the world.

Not Depopulation
Anyone in favor of depopulation through massive death or forced sterilization, I humbly ask you and your family to volunteer first since it was your idea. In my world the ends do not justify the ends, instead 'treat others as your self' and 'none shall infringe upon the free will of others' reigns supreme.

Not Eugenics
The next level in evolution is not perfecting genetics, because all of the building blocks for infinite expression has always existed in these very cells, genes, and subatomic particles. Genetics has always been perfected. Eugenics is not the solution.

Not Technology
The next level in evolution is not perfecting technology, because technology is merely a physical manifestation of the infinite creative energy that has always existed in the mind. Cybernetic hybridization and technology are not the solutions.

The Next Evolution
Evolution has been driven by energy. Gathering and utilizing energy. With each evolutionary phase, more energy efficiency was established which allowed the organisms to become more complex. With each step of complexity, a new dimension, perspective, or experience was observed. Single-cells forming colonies... colonies forming complex organisms... water based life ascends above the water dimension to discover a whole new universe above water... the next is the ascension into space and beyond.

But before going galactic or universal, humans must remember how to once again come together as One. Comparable to the first single-celled organisms coming together to form a new coherent and complex life form.

No Future For Disunity
The future does not belong to those who justify any means by the ends. The future does not belong to those who attempt to oppress, suppress, depopulate, or control. The future belongs to One. Those who can liberate from Ego. Those who can tear down the labels of separation. As within, so without. As above, so below. To destroy, to depopulate is only doing so to one's own self.

Fear, control, and survival of the fittest is the ancient primal animal consciousness. The next evolution is moving into the collective human consciousness of acknowledging no separate self, only a unity of peaceful existence.

It's funny, I've been considering EXACTLY the points you made (well done btw) lately, and have to say that this whole Illuminati/Freemasons/end of the world crap we have been fearing is nothing more than bored and frustrated people who aren't happy with their lot in life and now seek to tear down what humanity has built. And replace it with what? That we all go back to living in caves and surviving as our ancenstors did so many milennia ago? I happen to think the world is in a special place right now in history, yes, I do admit things are not as they should be in the world, and there is suffering, but it is suffering that as a species WE HAVE CAUSED.
Our up to the minute, me first, eff the lot of you attitude has created this world we live in, but if you scrape away the top layer of crud, the world really isn't that bad a place. I just think the the fear mongerers who want us all to vanish in a white flash want us to believe that in their delusional belief that out of the ashes some great utopian society will be born where every desire is handed to you and you spend your days doing nothing while getting fat off the land. Read that sentence again, see for yourself how ridiculous it sounds compared to the evolution of our people.
There HAS to be two sides for everything in life. Light/dark, good/bad, without one the other simply cannot exist. So goes the same IMO for this whole secret societies trying to take over the world and destroy the population for utmost control. For every dictator, their must be a liberator, which in itself is actually just a point of view.
Like everything else we slap labels on everything in life as a way to identify them, and when coupled with an emotional reaction, you have the makings of fear. Personally I don't like Tuna Mornay, only because it reminds me of a very low point in my life when it is all I could afford to eat. Does that make the dish itself an evil? Of course it doesn't, it's just my own reaction to a memory associated with it.
As much as this will stir a few pots, without governments and laws, there is no us. Without someone telling us how to do things we will devolve, very quickly I might add, into little more than cave dwelling gangs stepping over each others corpses in order to merely survive.
For those of you who seek to destroy this world or see it ended, do yourself a favour. Switch the goddamn computer off, and go outside and LOOK. Really look. See how beautiful this world really is, and be grateful you can take a deep breath, drink a cool glass of water, and appreciate just how awesome this world really is.

reply to post by NeoVain


Energy consumption is not a problem. The faster a tadpole runs out of readily accessible food, the quicker it's tail falls off and the legs begin to grow. Evolving energy consumption drives actual evolution. The longer we stick to wood, coal, oil, etc., the longer our evolution is postponed.

What is the next energy source? Only the single-cell life knew once he began to cooperate with others. Only those life forms knew once they began to become more complex and expand their territory. Only the animals that stepped onto land for the first time knew. Only the explorers of uncharted lands knew. We will only know once we reach that point of transition into a new paradigm.

In the meantime do you wish to be afraid of the future?

Originally posted by SquirrelNutz
reply to post by Mkoll

 

I agree with the first part of your post, but have to take issue with the second.

Not to sound elitist, myself, but why would you have decisions that are for the betterment of everyone come from the bottom, when people - the masses - really don't have a perception of the bigger picture that is necessary to have when making such important decisions in the first place.

[Let me be clear. I do not consider myself part of this elite class - but, I DO think that I understand the overall picture better than most]

And, there is NO WAY you read even half of that before replying, and therein lies a bigger problem and perfect example of how things are going awry in this country, and on this planet.

edit on 1/12/2012 by SquirrelNutz because: (no reason given)

So because one man has more money than another, he is also more enlightened? The elite, TPTB, all those examples you gave are of RICH people. Because the rich people do rule the world. They are selfish, crooked, and very un-enlightened.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

OR

The end justifies the means.

You decide.

Howdy

which is evident in unexplainable remains of archeaoligical sites all over the globe.

Oh, and what are these unexplainable remains? You mean stuff fringe thinks is unexplainable or stuff that really is unexplainable? lol

Hi,just to mention first off,i had the title of my thread edited a little so it would say better the meaning i was trying to get across,it now reads "those we call cave men were all that remained of humanity after the last time we destroyed ourselves" > www.abovetopsecret.com...

I believe there is now and has been for a very long time a royal elite bloodline of people who are all related and who become our world leaders both past and present and we,the mainstream public,are their expendable commodoties and their cannon fodder...

To see and understand just how vast the seperation between us and them actually is,read this link about one of tptb's many elaborate and lavish blast proof bunkers that they have had constructed for themselves within mountains of solid granite,built with great effort at the expense of us and our blood,sweat and broken back extracted tax dollars and just imagine the vast and impregnable underground fortresses they have that we dont know about...Cheyenne Mountain > en.wikipedia.org...