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Topic started on 12-1-2012 @ 12:44 PM by beanandginger
1. If any other GOP candidate had the demographic trending that Ron Paul is showing with New Voters, Young Voters and Independents the GOP and MSM would be salivating but they are both employing an all out media blitz to convince us that Mitt Romney is unstoppable as the nominee because he won Iowa by 8 votes (which may be contested) and because he won New Hampshire (which is practically his home state) by a large margin as expected. Reverse the Iowa win and award it to Santorum and then lets see what happens in states not so pro-Romney and you have quite a different story. The deographics are extremely upside for Paul, nobody is a clear front runner yet and Romney, Santorum and Paul are basically tied.

2. The MSM has come full circle with their coverage. Their playbook so far;

a. Ignore Ron Paul’s rise in the polls, and when that fails
b. Label Ron Paul a kook, and when that fails
c. Label Ron Paul a racist, and when that fails
d. Label Ron Paul’s foreign policy as “dangerous, and when that fails
e. Advise Huntsman to stay out of Iowa race so as not to split Romneys support, and when that fails
f. Bombard the airwaves with pro Romney “news” pieces, and when that fails
g. Advise Perry to stay in the race so his supporters will not gravitate to Ron Paul, and when that fails
h. Bombard the airwaves with comments that Ron Paul can’t win and is only looking for a platform
speech at the RNC convention, and when that fails
i. Bombard the airwaves with pro Romney “news” pieces, AGAIN, and when that fails
j. Ignore Ron Paul’s rise in the polls and especially among the voters that the GOP covets the most
New Voters, Youth and Independents.

3. Ron Paul can realize a meteoric rise if he makes 2 statements;

a. Too many people think the USA and specifically Republicans are war mongers and crusaders and based on the Pentagon leading the Bush AND Obama administrations around by the nose - I tend to agree. Ron Paul needs to expand his position on foreign policy platform to explain that he supports a strong defense but that does not mean nation building or regime change. Since when does being Republican mean supporting nation building and regime change. We need to know Ron Paul beileives in a strong national defense – that he’s not too slow to pull the trigger, but also that he’s not too QUICK to pull the trigger.
b. As everyone knows there exists a great divide between the rich in this country and everyone else, whether you count yourself in the 99%, 58%, 43%, etc. The federal government of the USA is facilitating that divide, has created a wall that prevents the ascension of the poor / middle class into the wealthy class. Mr. Paul please be our voice in the spirit of Ronald Reagan in sending the message to Washington – “Please tear down that wall” that is the federal bureaucracy, that prevents growth, that prohibits free trade, that prohibits entrepreneurialism and that dampens the human spirit of self accomplishment thru individual achievement.


reply posted on 12-1-2012 @ 01:09 PM by Praetorius
reply to post by Cynicaleye

Oh - it's you again. Hi Cynicaleye!

DIDtm already spoke to the delegate issue, but I'd also like to add that - first off - not getting first place isn't a loss, especially in a multiple-man race - amplified when delegates are accounted for. Secondly, and I've yet to hear any developments on this changing the official results, there were plenty of official news articles covering reports that Romney actually got 2nd in Iowa due to a miscount of 20 votes that gave him the edge over Santorum - regardless, out of the number of votes cast, they are statistically a tie for first, meaning Paul was statistically 2nd in Iowa and with a 2nd-place win in NH, he's sitting very prettily in the results so far - especially compared to the other candidates not consistently holding their heads up either in polling or primary/caucus results.

That said, I'm curious if you had anything more substantial - or accurate - to add regarding the intent of the thread itself, one way or the other - or if this is just going to be another one-off drive by situation with you picking at Paul again over fairly meaningless points?

Take care, friend.


reply posted on 12-1-2012 @ 01:13 PM by beanandginger
reply to post by Cynicaleye



Here's the current count...

Gingrich Huntsman Paul Perry Santorum Romney
Iowa 4 0 6 3 6 6
New Hampshire 0 2 3 0 0 7
Total 4 2 9 3 6 13


teapartycheer.com...


reply posted on 12-1-2012 @ 01:41 PM by EagleTalonZ
Reality Check! The Truth Behind Republican Delegate Numbers



Also, Ron Paul came in 2nd in the Democratic Primary of New Hampshire. He received 2273 write-ins!

Democratic Primary of New Hampshire Results

Also cited on the Democrats for Ron Paul page:
Ron Paul #2 in NH Democratic Primary

Ron Paul’s strong support among Democrats can be tied to many issues. From his strong anti-war message to his assessment of the obvious failure of the drug war, his fight for racial equality in the justice system, his battle against inflation or his unique budget plan which fully funds Social Security, Medicare, and Veterans’ benefits (without relying on the continuing willingness of China to buy US debt as the other candidates’ plans do) – Ron Paul’s platform delivers what many Democratic candidates only pay lip service to.
edit on 12-1-2012 by EagleTalonZ because: (no reason given)

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