9/11: A Boeing 757 Struck the Pentagon, page 73
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reply posted on 22-6-2005 @ 06:05 AM by Just
ok frist off this is great thread... ok now to the brass tax ok first when dose a 757 have a white smoke tail ....hmmm it dosent rockets do A Global Hawk Drone, Cruise Missile or a drone made to look like a AA 757? i think so The Pentagon measures 921.6 feet along each external face, half of this distance, marked on the diagram between the central corridor and the upper-left corner of the Pentagon (cyan) is 460.8' Take this base measurement as a scale and measure the distance from the rear of the plane in the photo (red dot), along the approximate path of the jet (dark-green line) to the impact point. The distance the tail traveled between frames (heavy red line) is approx. 450', which is just short of the originally estimated 465' or 3 lengths of a 757, which is 155'. So, 450 feet traveled in 1/30th of a second = 13500 feet/sec. = 2.55 miles/sec. = 153.4 miles/min. = 9204.54 mph = 7997 kts. = Mach 12.11 Even if you alter the path of the jet to a direct (90 degree) impact trajectory, (which introduces other unexplainable issues such as intact light-posts and trees, clearing the embankment, not to mention those anomalous hydro spools) you still end up with a final velocity exceeding Mach 6! "quote from freedonfiles" My point here is that a whoosh sound is made by explosions not by a plane engine. I guess it depends on the Whoosh type sound, perhaps it might also be a missile launching as well. Dick Eastman seems to think that the plane flew over the Pentagon and landed at a nearby base. Perhaps, it fired off two missiles at the Pentagon and flew over, but if it was being covered by a holographic projection from the C130 that was near by, then who really knows. It is all speculation right now. The other aspect to all this is that the Pentagon Defence System may have shot missiles at the incoming plane, which very likely was a Global Hawk painted to look like an AA 757. The other aspect was that the plane would have been flying mere few feet above the ground and few people saw it before it hit. Global Hawks make little noise and from what I understand it would have been descending from an altitude of about 60,000 feet. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- hmm sound very interesting www.freedomfiles.org... www.freedomfiles.org... www.freedomfiles.org... www.freedomfiles.org... www.freedomfiles.org... make you go hmm ... oh also ... they say they recoverd black box ... no prof also why is it that AA asked what numbers where on BB goverment said we dont know was to burnt ... OPPS SORRY YOU JUST LOST ... all black boxes have numbers ingraved stamped by a lazer so it will always be visable or parts of it ...hmmm i have more info i have been researching 9-11 i truely think it was all a cover up ..



reply posted on 23-6-2005 @ 02:06 AM by Zaphod58
what apartment building? It hit light poles, which would have damaged the wings, but not taken them off, and then impacted the Pentagon. The white smoke trail could have been a problem developing with the engine or engines. They aren't meant to be run constantly at high speed as these were for long periods of time before they fail. There was a good talk about why it didn't hit the ground in another thread. It's called ground effect. When a plane gets to a height equal to its wingspan above the ground it "bounces" in the air for lack of a better term. The amound of air being displaced under the wings balances so that if you don't have flaps/slats/gear/spoilers deployed the plane will stay at that height until you do something to either climb or force it to descend. When the aircraft is close to the surface -- in ground effect -- coming into contact with the surface modifies the almost cylindrical vortex-induced circulation around the wing. This flattens the cylindrical circulation pattern and reduces the downwash angle of the air behind the wing. This flattening of the cylindrical circulation spreads the pattern outwards below the wing and increases the effective span of the wing. The aerodynamic aspect ratio of the wing is also increased. (The aerodynamic aspect ratio of the wing is measured between the cores of the vortices, which occur at about 80% of the geometric wingspan outside of ground effect. This aerodynamic aspect ratio has a strong inverse effect on lift-induced drag.) When the aircraft flies close enough to the ground that the sag of the vortices trailing the wingtips is restricted by coming in contact with the ground, the backward-tilting angle of the total lift vector is reduced, thereby reducing its horizontal component and reducing induced drag. The combination of the reduction in the downwash angle of the air behind the wing and the increases of both effective wingspan and aerodynamic aspect ratio of the wing occur when the wing is close to the surface. These increases in aerodynamic efficiency of the wing are what we call ground effect. When an aircraft enters ground effect during the landing flare, the aircraft may tend to float because the lift-induced drag is reduced quite dramatically as the aircraft descends below one wingspan distance from the ground. Any excess speed at all -- you know, the 10 knots for Ma and the kids -- will cause this float to become excessive. This can cause an inexperienced pilot to grope for the ground and possibly induce pitch oscillations. At any rate, the bent nose gear and the excess wear on the tires and the brakes are of no use to anyone except the folks who sell spare parts.
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