9/11: A Boeing 757 Struck the Pentagon, page 284
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reply posted on 14-4-2009 @ 08:02 AM by Zaphod58
reply to post by SylviaPlath
Really? I must have missed the vehicles I was in flipping over when we drove behind those planes running engines on the ground. Or all those people dying when they walked behind the same plane. A large parked plane running engines at power, under the right conditions CAN flip a vehicle. That same large airplane in flight won't do anything but rock a vehicle back and forth. It CERTAINLY won't kill someone on foot or anyone else.


reply posted on 14-4-2009 @ 11:45 AM by SPreston
posted by Zaphod58 reply to post by SylviaPlath
Really? I must have missed the vehicles I was in flipping over when we drove behind those planes running engines on the ground. Or all those people dying when they walked behind the same plane. A large parked plane running engines at power, under the right conditions CAN flip a vehicle. That same large airplane in flight won't do anything but rock a vehicle back and forth. It CERTAINLY won't kill someone on foot or anyone else.
How can you possibly know that? Evidence please. How often do Boeing 757 sized commercial aircraft fly within 35-50 feet over cars and pedestrians at 535 mph with both turbofan engines allegedly at full throttle? Where would this evidence have occurred, besides at the Pentagon where the actual aircraft flew Over the Naval Annex and Over the cars and pedestrians and light poles at a much slower speed and 50 to 80 feet above ground level??



reply posted on 14-4-2009 @ 01:59 PM by Zaphod58
reply to post by SPreston
A 747 at full power trying to take off (with about 56,000 lbs of thrust) with more thrust than ANY 757 ever built, doesn't even knock people over when they're standing less than 100 feet away from the end of the runway, directly behind it. You don't have to fly a 757 over a road at 530 mph to prove that. If a plane with a higher thrust rating doesn't knock everyone over and roll them down the beach, when sitting still, at full power, then you can conclude (there's that logic thing again) that a 757 in flight, with a LOWER thrust rating, isn't going to flip cars around.


reply posted on 14-4-2009 @ 04:48 PM by SPreston
reply to post by Zaphod58
Oh really? This vehicle is over 100 feet behind the jet engine and weighs over a ton. Seems like it was bowled over and thrown for quite a distance into the water, wasn't it? These cars are about 150 feet behind the engines. I wouldn't want to be standing back there. Would you? The alleged aircraft engines scripted in the 9-11 Pentagon OFFICIAL STORY allegedly at full throttle, were supposed to be a lot closer than 150 feet from the cars and pedestrians the aircraft allegedly flew over. But nothing. Not one pedestrian reported being hurled for several hundred feet across the road and not one car reported being overturned. Why is that? Because no aircraft struck the Pentagon and because no aircraft knocked down the five light poles and because no aircraft flew down the hill and low above the cars and pedestrians? Is it because the real aircraft flew Over the Naval Annex and North of the Citgo and far to the north of the staged light poles?
[edit on 4/14/09 by SPreston]


reply posted on 14-4-2009 @ 05:08 PM by Zaphod58
reply to post by SPreston
I couldn't care less if you believe me or not, but I've been in a truck and car behind a C-135 with one, two, and four engines running at full power, driving slowly behind it. And yet, we didn't flip once. We didn't lean any more than you would taking a turn too fast, and we were never in any danger. And that was with as many as four 18,000lb thrust engines. Here are videos of heavy planes taking off at St Maarten. The runway is across a road from the beach, and people stand right behind the planes watching them take off, and cars drive right behind them on take off and landing. The people get blasted, but they don't (always) get thrown, and they don't get hurt. Yes, there are some people that get blown away, but look at how close those people are holding onto the fence in the first video. They don't have much trouble standing there watching the take off. Some of the people on the beach have some trouble standing there, but they're not thrown.


reply posted on 14-4-2009 @ 05:36 PM by SPreston
posted by Zaphod58 reply to post by SPreston
Here are videos of heavy planes taking off at St Maarten. The runway is across a road from the beach, and people stand right behind the planes watching them take off, and cars drive right behind them on take off and landing. The people get blasted, but they don't (always) get thrown, and they don't get hurt.
Those people in your 1st video are about 300 feet behind the engines (much further than the truck was) and in the 2nd video about 400 feet behind the engines. It didn't sound like the engines went to full throttle until after the 747s were rolling down the runway. The pilots knew full well those people were back there. Regardless, there was no 535 mph 90 ton 757 over the superturf Pentagon lawn and staged light poles to bowl people and cars over, because the aircraft was actually flying Over the Naval Annex at a much slower speed. Your 9-11 Pentagon OFFICIAL STORY is collapsing faster than you guys can prop it back up.


reply posted on 14-4-2009 @ 05:50 PM by CameronFox
reply to post by SPreston
If you haven't noticed, responses to the Flyover nonsense has been very limited. Our handlers at NWO Headquarters have declined payment to NWO operatives for showing the ridiculousness of the flyover theory and those that happen to buy the snake oil. Thanks for playing.


reply posted on 14-4-2009 @ 05:52 PM by Zaphod58
reply to post by SPreston
So planes with MORE thrust, and MORE wake turbulence in a configuration where wake turbulence is the strongest don't prove anything..... Ok got it. A Boeing 757 in a clean configuration at high speed, would actually produce LESS turbulence on the ground than a 747, DC-10, 757, or 767 in a dirty configuration would. Engines in flight produce LESS effect on the ground than engines on a parked plane are. They are pushing the plane forward in flight, where the ones on the ground aren't pushing anything. The effect on the ground is mostly from wake turbulence. Wake turbulence is highest in a take off or landing configuration, when the planes are slow and nose high.
Wake turbulence is turbulence that forms behind an aircraft as it passes through the air. This turbulence includes various components, the most important of which are wingtip vortices and jetwash. Jetwash refers simply to the rapidly moving gases expelled from a jet engine; it is extremely turbulent, but of short duration. Wingtip vortices, on the other hand, are much more stable and can remain in the air for up to three minutes after the passage of an aircraft. Wingtip vortices make up the primary and most dangerous component of wake turbulence. Wake turbulence is especially hazardous during the landing and take off phases of flight, for three reasons. The first is that during take-off and landing, aircraft operate at low speeds and high angle of attack. This flight attitude maximizes the formation of dangerous wingtip vortices. Secondly, takeoff and landing are the times when a plane is operating closest to its stall speed and to the ground - meaning there is little margin for recovery in the event of encountering another aircraft's wake turbulence. Thirdly, these phases of flight put aircraft closest together and along the same flightpath, maximizing the chance of encountering the phenomenon.
en.wikipedia.org... The exhaust from the engines wouldn't react against the cars long enough to flip them over. Not even at close range, because the plane is moving away from them at high speeds. The strongest point of the exhaust is directly behind the engine, at close range. [edit on 4/14/2009 by Zaphod58]
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