A lot of the links don't work in relation to the Boeing site. good research, but have you ever heard of the government planting evidence and eyewitnesses? In your eyewitness accounts, you leave out some of the good ones like the cab drivers, and the reporter who speaks the truth first, but then later recants his statements. I would trust no eyewitness statement from anyone that works for the government. Have you ever seen a real plane crash and see what the wreckage looks like? not tiny little convenient bits of AA colored fuselage. The tire inside can not even be recognized as a tire to me anyway. lastly, does an innocent man try incessantly to cover up his innocence? the government has block the investigation in every conceivable way...why? The 9/11 commission was a complete farce and thoroughly censored by the government before being released to the public. The corruption is deep and the lies are never ending!

Originally posted by waynedg i have not gone through all the posts but something that stood out for me was the pictures that were posted. why is there a NO PARKING sign there on the one picture it seems out of place as it seems there a marked parking bays on another side of the Pentagon and as that is on the grassy side i dont think people would have parked there anyway. why are there no windows on the picture where it shows the small hole in the wall. i cannot figure where this picture was taken as the penatgon shows many windows at the crash site. 64 dead people from that plane surely not on such a size plane? [edit on 25-1-2009 by waynedg]

I was thinking the EXACT same thing about that picture with the no parking sign...It's a fake! I don't even think that is the pentagon in the picture. A jetliner slams into it and the no parking sign is still there not even charred? LOL I think this "account" of the incident is just another corrupt government hoax designed to pull the wool over our eyes some more! I witness the pentagon live on CNN "although CNN is government controlled" I watched mesmerized for 36 hours straight...there was no debris there..the lawn on the way in was unblemished where the plane would be gorging a trench in it. Hani Hanjour could barely fly a single engine cessna as stated by his american floridian flight instructor, yet was empowered with the ability to fly a complex pattern with a 757 to the pentagon. What about general george takeya's statement about Cheney being informed about the incoming plane every 10 miles on it's approach, and in the final 10 minutes before impact, the person informing cheney asked if the orders still stand? This is a lovely ruse here, but i don't buy a lot of your "research" So if you so desire, delete this post so you can keep pulling the wool over peoples eyes, but for people who do their own independent research, they will see through this crap!

sorry man and thanks. i just wanted to know if there was parking allowed or not inside the rings.

where are the wings and the tail ? where are the marks on the wall that wings where present ? where are marks on the wall that a tail section was present ? how could a plane leave a perfectly round circle with no evedence of wing impact or tail impact ? why did the plane make such an effort to hit the side of the building that was already under construction at the pentagon ? why the pentagon and not the capitol or white house ? how could this plane get this close to the capital with out our 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 defense program stopping it ?????? can you be more spcific on the location of the wheels and engins ? can you tell me how a plane with a 122ft wing span went inside a 16 ft hole and vanished if i mesured from the center of the plane to center of each engine it seams like that would be at least 20 to 30 feet on each side a total of 60 feet max please show me impact points on the wall where these two 20,000 lb engins hit the pentagon ?????? the planes had to be flying at a desent speed of about 150 miles per hr otherwise impact couldnt be as persise do you think every one in this country is an idiot ????????? i dont expect to see this on your web site because i dont think you can honnestly answer my questions I AM AN AMERICAN

I agree with most of the information, but that is not an apu in the picture. I have worked on that type of apu and it is not that big. That looks like part of the hot section of the one of the #1 or #2 engines. The Rolls-Royce engine isn't all that big, just the fan on the front and the outer duct, the rest of the engine is 2.5 to 3.5 feet around (check out a cut away of any turbo-fan engine).

just saw a picture on tv about the pentagon and i dont see how its possible that cars can park inside the rings.

I dont beleive you have cosiderd the fact if the attac was carried out by rouge forces of the US. It is possible that they may used trickery to get you to beleive what you are seeing. They are masters of illutions. They are masters of phsycalogical warfare. they are masters of electronic warfare. they could very well turn a commercial aircraft into a missle so witnesses would identify it as such. they could very well overide the systems by remote and take control of the aircraft. that is old technology. they have a motive. Was this not a similar plan called operation northwoods, devised in the early 60s and went operational on the USS Liberty. they have all these capabilities and they could have used them. The USS cole was attacked, the world trade centers were attacked previously, the marines in lebanon. there is there motive. There enemy wanted a fight. The people of the country didnt have the balls to go to war so this plan could have been carried out to change there feelings. If this is not the case why all the secrecy?

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS where are the wings and the tail ? where are the marks on the wall that wings where present ? where are marks on the wall that a tail section was present ? how could a plane leave a perfectly round circle with no evedence of wing impact or tail impact ? why did the plane make such an effort to hit the side of the building that was already under construction at the pentagon ? why the pentagon and not the capitol or white house ? how could this plane get this close to the capital with out our 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 defense program stopping it ?????? can you be more spcific on the location of the wheels and engins ? can you tell me how a plane with a 122ft wing span went inside a 16 ft hole and vanished if i mesured from the center of the plane to center of each engine it seams like that would be at least 20 to 30 feet on each side a total of 60 feet max please show me impact points on the wall where these two 20,000 lb engins hit the pentagon ?????? the planes had to be flying at a desent speed of about 150 miles per hr otherwise impact couldnt be as persise do you think every one in this country is an idiot ????????? i dont expect to see this on your web site because i dont think you can honnestly answer my questions I AM AN AMERICAN

Good God.. Is page 283 the only page you have read? We appreciate your support for our country, but dude, you need to spell check before you hit POST! Just kidding.. Everything your asking is in these pages alone. You have the same questions we have all had in the beginning. Take a few days, read the whole thread... very very interesting..

Originally posted by waynedg just saw a picture on tv about the pentagon and i dont see how its possible that cars can park inside the rings.

It's a lot bigger than it looks on tv.

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS I agree with most of the information, but that is not an apu in the picture. I have worked on that type of apu and it is not that big. That looks like part of the hot section of the one of the #1 or #2 engines. The Rolls-Royce engine isn't all that big, just the fan on the front and the outer duct, the rest of the engine is 2.5 to 3.5 feet around (check out a cut away of any turbo-fan engine).

rolls royse said this is not a part from any rolls royce engine..

And the person that said it was a SPOKESPERSON, not an actual engineer. He also said that it wasn't part of a GLOBAL HAWK engine, which is much smaller than a 757 engine.

whats bad about loose change?

Originally posted by knowpeace whats bad about loose change?

Just the mention of Loose Change to a professional debunker like CameronFox is like showing a wooden stake to a vampire. The mere thought of Loose Change makes them screech like a rabid owl at Bohemian Grove.

Originally posted by GoldenFleece Just the mention of Loose Change to a professional debunker like CameronFox is like showing a wooden stake to a vampire. The mere thought of Loose Change makes them screech like a rabid owl at Bohemian Grove.

LMFAO...no,it's actually the opposite. Debunking Loose Change is like shooting fish in a barrel. Dylan Avery stopped chatting with me after I proved to him and some of his minions the fraud that he is.

This ridiculous Catherder thread about a mythical Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon should've died a couple years ago. The cats are finally waking up and they're not so easily herded anymore. I'm not even that big a fan of Loose Change. But Dylan's a cool guy, especially for his age. My impression was he's a regular guy without manipulative or insincere bone in his body. In other words, your polar opposite. But I understand that light wouldn't exist without the darkness.