9/11: A Boeing 757 Struck the Pentagon, page 142
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reply posted on 2-4-2006 @ 03:49 AM by Zaphod58


reply posted on 2-4-2006 @ 03:53 PM by LaBTop
the extensive use of physics, chemistry and engineering calculations seems not to convince the majority of official 9/11 explanation followers, that there is something ridiculously wrong with those official explanations. So, let's start to find the obvious signs of the times, without all the overly scientific complications and infinitely repeated data throwing. Pentagon Building Performance Report. fire.nist.gov... and click the pdf link : fire.nist.gov... Then proceed to page 16 of 45, and there you'll find the fatalities diagrams for the first and second stories. (Btw, in Europe, they would call that the ground and first floors). Anyone with a good eyesight will observe at first glance 2 things: 1. A circa 90° impact path for building occupants fatalities to the right of the impact hole on the West wall of the Pentagon. 2. A circa 45° to 55° spread impact path for building occupants fatalities to the far left of the impact hole. After scrutinage of the 2 diagrams, you could even devide that nr. 2 observation into : 2. A 45° impact path, and 3. A 52° to 55° impact path. Now, did you observe the remark from Fire at NIST on page 16 that : ""Impact of the fuselage was at column line 14, at or slightly below the secondfloor slab."" They want you to follow their impact angle of about 52°. However, the fatality debris path originating from that collumn line 14, is clearly under a 90° angle. And, moreover, in fact, it is obvious that the 90° angle fatalities impact path originates from collumn line 11. The very one which was the 20 minutes later than impact, implosion collapse front. At that expansion joints collumn line 11, the building collapsed. That expansion joint line had double collumns from the front to the back of all 3 rings E,D and C. But this report shows these doble collumns only clearly at the very left side of this diagram. And the 3D forms of these 2 diagrams are also clearly chosen to obfuscate the obvious 2 to 3 different debris flight pathes through the 3 rings. If a straight-on visualization was chosen, it would have been immediately obvious, that a few strange debris flight pathes would have been observable in such a 90° head-on visualization. Another strange fact: the scattered findings of the aircraft passengers fatalities. Those green and white blocks. The white ones are the front rows passengers. Remember : ""Impact of the fuselage was at column line 14, at or slightly below the secondfloor slab."" Well, that's strange. NOT A SINGLE passenger fatality found on the second story (EU : first floor). While we find the most remains of passengers in the last, C-ring's first story (EU : ground floor!) I'll make it clear for those who still don't understand the meaning of that remark : The passengers in any airplane are sitting on top of one of the strongest parts of an airplane: the floorbeams from nose to tail section. In fact the area they are seated in, is not much more than a flimsy aluminum can, compared to the luggage area. All the strength is situated around the luggage area with a few strong beams on top of that area, functioning also as the passenger cabine floor struts. And then you can observe another strange fact in one of my last pictures from my last post on page 141. You really need to open the hires picture, to be able to see clear that a substantial part of the floor slab's concrete is missing in that early Cpl. Ingersoll pre-collapse picture with the red hot burning entry hole clearly visible, and you can look inside of the entry hole. The thick concrete second floor slab has been evaporated for quite a substantial part of the E-ring's second floor area. So if that was a 757, most of the impact force must have been consumed by the impact of the planes floorbeams on the second floor slab. How the hell did it turn all passenger remains up at the ground floor level? They would have to end up, logically, at the first floor level, and logically somewhere in the first ring impacted, the E-ring. No, they find most of their remains at the back of the C-ring, on the GROUND floor. Which must lead us to conclude that bodies or body parts have more mass and more penetrating power than steel, titanium and highstrength aluminium plane parts. Sorry, pass that lie on to all those first and even second term Bush voters, they tend to believe anything when it is printed on government approved paper.



reply posted on 6-4-2006 @ 01:00 AM by LaBTop
I have already addressed this a few pages back, and posted a few possible flightpathes. Long Lance, who seems to live in Washington, and has developed a healthy curiosity to find the true facts of flight 77, has posted there a few possible flightpathes regarding the list of witnesses statements I posted. www.911myths.com... At 911Myths, the "unofficial" debunkers of the official storyline debunkers, we find the following poor try of drawing a possible last flightpath trajectory : This proposed trajectory is based on a very flawed understanding of widebody passenger aircrafts behavior at high speeds at very low altitude. And on a widely appraised, but wrong last low flying trajectory following not Columbia Pike (244), but instead the Henry G. Shirley Memorial Highway (395), which contradict with visual observations from too many believable witnesses, who all saw a plane heading towards the Pentagon West wall following Columbia Pike (244). Let's not spend too much time on this totally wrong flypath proposal, and proceed to another, much better and thoroughly thought out flightpath proposal, at : perso.wanadoo.fr... Here we find a damn good train of thoughts, connected to 11 witness statements about their visually observed trajectory of "flight 77". Let's first look at some very informative pictures from this France based researcher : Flight 77 end-trajectory looking straight down on it : external image End-trajectory looking down from the South-West : Towards North-West : external image Towards North-East : If you visit this above link ( perso.wanadoo.fr... ), and fill in a checkmark at all landmarks etc. indicators, you will get a very clear picture in your mind regarding the problems pilotting this aircraft over, through and inbetween all these obstacles at the last part of its flightpath. I still strongly believe that this aircraft was flown by remote controll, steered by a well trained pilot sitting in that mysterious following C-130 spy-plane from the CIA, NSA or whatever other black-operational US agency. At least during this last final part of it's doomed flightpath. Ain't it a sign of the time, that after 4 years, a Frenchman does provide a thoroughly thought out description of those last minutes of Flight 77, whilst one would expect at least ONE american to have come up with the same pictures at a much earlier time. Since all americans should have a far greater interest of bringing up the true facts of 9/11. It looks to me that the majority of americans on this and other boards, don't really want to look their own legislaters deep in their wicked eyes, from point blank distance. If this isn't the time for revolution, when will it ever be? How much more can you bear? Don't you clearly see that a greedy cabal of derailed capitalists is moving your military out of the country and on a deceptive path of destruction, so they have their hands free at home to take over your minds and souls? When will you ever wake up and stand for your rights and take back your damn soil? Good LUCK.


reply posted on 13-4-2006 @ 11:54 AM by undercover747

Pentagon struck by explosives laden row boat??!!

The gaping hole blown in the port side of the U.S.S. Cole is approximately 18 feet wide, roughly circular in shape. The blast that tore through the U.S.S. Cole was, undisputedly, caused by a row boat filled with explosives. The U.S.S. Cole commissioned as DDG67, a U.S. Guided Missile Destroyer is 505 feet in length. As witnessed by these photographs of the Cole after the terrorist attack, at a scale of 505 feet the hole blown into the side of the Cole would measure roughly 18ft. Notice the man standing on the floating dry dock. The hole is approx. three times his height. And why is he wearing purple? Is there some hidden meaning? Roughly the size of the hole blasted into the side of the Pentagon on 911. Conclusive proof the Pentagon was attacked by an explosives laden row boat. Notice the subtle similarities? Is it a coincidence that it was an explosives LADEN row boat? I think not!! Overview of U.S.S Cole at recovery after bomb blast. Hole in Pentagon superimposed over hole in U.S.S. Cole. (Notice mysterious man in purple, possible alien connection??) Now that ALL the facts are out I think you will find it very clear, as I have. The Pentagon AND the U.S.S Cole were attacked by a row boat shaped UFO manned by aliens from some distant planet in the far reaches of the universe. For what reason? No doubt, military supremacy. I for one am now ready for them, I hope you will prepare as well. [edit on 13-4-2006 by undercover747]


reply posted on 13-4-2006 @ 02:01 PM by Interseptor
Watch The Truth In Detial 9/11 Loose Change 2 Video All will be understood after the video [edit on 13-4-2006 by Interseptor]


reply posted on 15-4-2006 @ 01:19 AM by SMR
I once tried that as well as others and they get closed and told to do it in this or other threads.I was one of the first to respond to this thread and by some unearthly force, some of those posts were deleted which showed the info to be wrong. You can believe me or not that is your choice.I know what I have said in here and know that this thread was nothing but to spread dis-info about the Pentagon issue.Have you wondered WHY this thread got SO much attention? Wonder WHY they had such an issue with sign of the times site? They debunked this junk big time thats why. As for your claim of hypocrisy, I wasnt leading anyone on with anything in my post.I just told what I know.CH no longer 'defends' his/her claims like once before.From out of nowhere he/she gets banned? Yeah ok.There are FAR worse members here that get away with all kinds of stuff and a member who really never flew off the handle gets banned? A rebuttle was done to this called 9/11: A Boeing 757 DID NOT Strick the Pentagon and was closed.It had the same type of structure as this but was closed.Why not a fancy front page for it like this one got? I even got into some words with MODS about it being closed and was told to stop crying and just leave.Why so harsh over a messageboard post? Yeah..... Im here to spread dis-info and brainwash to members to believe in lies As I said, if AA flight 77 did hit, CatHearders post has no proof showing that it did even if true.Schematics of a 757 prove nothing.What color primer they use on a 757 prove nothing.


reply posted on 15-4-2006 @ 05:39 AM by AgentSmith
Just for the record, as some of these are not published very often...


reply posted on 17-4-2006 @ 11:16 AM by osmodia
Hi, I have got to thinking that a lot of the web sites devoted to "exposing" the truth about 9/11 are controlled by the same people that planned and executed the crime. We are being fed just enough truth to keep us excited while being oh so carefully led away from the real truth. I mean, look at the Pentagon, would anyone planning and executing that attack really leave so many things open? Not releasing video, apparent lack of wreckage, conflicting witness accounts, etc,etc. We seem to have been led to believing that a 757 did not hit the building! Just look at the whole thing, feds carrying away covered wreckage, photographs taken of only ONE small engine, stupid CCTV film showing nothing! It is all so bizarre! This whole thing was carefully set up to make us start thinking along the lines we are and encouraged by the dozens of controlled sites we have taken the bait. You know, I reckon a 757 DID hit the Pentagon, but not flown by terrorists but maybe flown by remote control! I reckon that sooner or later, when the government appears to up against the wall on this, they will release a whole stack of real evidence, video etc which will prove that a 757 hit the building! Then where will we be? Looking stupid, all our lovely conspiracy stuff thrown out of the window! We have to look at the whole thing differently, whoever was behind all this is CLEVER, very CLEVER, but if we stop acting like sheep we might start to get at the truth.
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