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Originally posted by wtbengineer
reply to post by pteridine
You know, for all our sakes I hope you are right. I understand the physics of nuclear fission, as well as the theory behind cold fusion. I am just jaded by many years of hoping for something better but not seeing anything come to fruition. Really, I am not your rival but more a devil's advocate. I would like nothing more than to eat my words.
Originally posted by Dr Expired
Have a starred this thread for mentioning the word "Mullumbimby".
Its part of a very unusual region, that many spiritualists and Earth worshippers can testify.
There are very strange fungi in area that contain very strange blue compounds.
The electical storms almost spell "This is the area of Magic and the In Between World".
Lots of spirits both alive and dead in the area around Nimbin Kyogle, Mullumbimby, casino, The Channon ect ecte ct.
Odd location for such relevation?
More fizzed than Fusion, so Dicks not energised.
IT WAS billed as a scientific breakthrough providing a clean-energy future for the planet. The poster that lured the good folk of Mullumbimby said: ''Hello clean, green, renewable, inexpensive cold fusion. You are invited to a public meeting.''
There was to be a Skype link-up to Italy with the physicist Andrea Rossi, who would explain how his E-cat machine could take a small amount of energy and turn it into lots of energy. Something for nothing.
So about 100 Mullumbimby residents filed into the ex-services club on Friday night. The entrepreneur Dick Smith had offered to invest $200,000 if the physics was proven. He sent along a consulting aerospace engineer and sceptic, Ian Bryce, to assess the machine. In the hall were two screens, ready for the link-up.
Sol Millin, a local retiree and founder of The Byron New Energy Charitable Trust, spoke first, hoping to convince investors. But when it was time for the link-up, the phone didn't ring. And it didn't ring.
Mr Millin told The Sun-Herald: ''I thought it was better if Dr Rossi rang us. He is a very important man and a very busy man and I didn't want to keep him waiting.''
But they had their wires crossed, their timing out of sync. Each was expecting the other to call.
''I didn't bother to blame him and he didn't bother to blame me,'' Mr Millin said. ''I was very disappointed - I was going to stand on the stage and talk directly to the inventor.''
Asked if he though Mr Smith would invest in the project, Mr Millin replied: ''Absolutely.''
Mr Bryce has advised Mr Smith otherwise. ''My view was that it was much too early to talk about investing. I have serious concerns about the invention's credibility and lack of sound scientific theory behind it.''
Mr Smith said: ''I said, get me some evidence and I will put some funding up, but they couldn't even organise the timing for a Skype link-up. I am very suspicious of the whole thing. I am not holding my breath. I will keep my $200,000 in the bank.''
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Originally posted by Kryties
reply to post by 1littlewolf
Contrary to popular opinion, not everyone in Mullumbimby smokes pot. That's Nimbin, my friend
Apparently they forged ahead anyway, Rossi had sent out a representative to be there in person for the link-up.....he gave a speech and they did some debating but while some of the attendees remain hopeful, I have to say I am with Dick Smith on this one. If Rossi was serious about this he would have made bloody sure he was there at the appointed time.
Then again, miracles do happen I guess.
Andrea Rossi, the inventor of the E-Cat (Energy Catalyzer), does not give a large number of interviews (we know of three in the past year). He is far too busy putting in often 14-16 hour days preparing for the production of one million, ten kilowatt units for home use. However, on the anniversary of the first press conference about the E-Cat technology that took place January 14, 2011, he graciously allowed for an interview that turned out to be very revealing. During the interview many questions were answered, and a few revelations were made about the development of the E-Cat technology. Source
REACTOR CORE -- The reactor core of the home E-Cat unit is about the size of a cigarette box, and is capable of producing ten kilowatts of power. The size of the entire unit will be about the same as a home computer (which I think indicates it is the size of a desktop.) This is a significant reduction in size from previous figures provided. This makes a home E-Cat unit very small and compact.
It was also clarified that each individual home E-Cat system will utilize one reactor core. This is different than what was stated only a couple months ago, which indicates just how rapidly progress is being made. If the reactor core is the size of a single pack of cigarettes (about 85 cubic centimeters) and can produce 10 kilowatts of power, this makes the power density 117 watts per cubic centimeter -- a super high value!
SIMPLE REFUELING -- It was revealed home E-Cat units would be capable of being re-fueled by individuals, and not by technicians. He claimed it would be like changing the ink in a pen. After using a cartridge for 180 service days (when the system is actively in use), the system will indicate it needs to be replaced. Once a new cartridge is obtained from his company or a member of their network, the old one will be removed, and the new one popped in. The old cartridge will then be sent to Leonardo Corporation to be recycled. Interestingly, he seemed to indicate that much of the remaining nickel could be salvaged, and it would only need to be re-processed. Each cartridge will cost only about ten dollars, although at first the price could be slightly higher.
Once again, he asserted that such small amounts of nickel are used, that there is zero possibility of a shortage due to the proliferation of the E-Cat technology. If the entire world converted all their power producing systems to run off nickel, only 1% of the annual production would be consumed.
Though the E-Cat is likely to propagate extensively, we envision many other free energy technologies also emerging, and some of those modalities don't consume any fuel whatsoever, and may be likely to obsolete many of the potential long-term applications of the E-Cat. As cheap and abundant as Nickel is, it isn't infinite, like some other energy sources such as Zero Point Energy.
NO HYDROGEN CANISTER -- Unlike previous E-Cat systems which required the use of a hydrogen canister, the new home E-Cat utilizes a material inside of the reactor core which can release and absorb hydrogen. Due to this, no hydrogen canister is needed. I am assuming that the hydrogen release and absorption is controlled via the temperatures produced in the reactor core. Probably when the heat is high the hydrogen is released, and when the temperature goes down the hydrogen is absorbed. Although about ten grams of hydrogen will be placed in the core, only picograms will actually be consumed in the nuclear reactions.
The removal of the hydrogen canister will make the certification process simpler, because it had previously been a significant hoop to jump through. Also, I think the lack of hydrogen canister greatly contributes to the size reduction of the system.
DIRT CHEAP ENERGY -- The cost of a home E-Cat unit was stated to be between $400 and $500 dollars. This will be accomplished through the best engineering possible of the production line, automization of all aspects of the factory, and the use of robotics. The goal is to make this technology so affordable that everyone will be able to purchase a system, and competitors will not be able to under sell him. Although his technology will obviously be reverse-engineered when the units start to sell, it does not matter because he will have a major head start.
SELF SUSTAIN -- The home E-Cat units will be made to self sustain. For the first hour after being turned on, a unit will draw approximately 2.7 to 2.9 kilowatts of power to heat up the reactor core. After that time, the system will self sustain, in that the only power consumed will be used to power the electronics and control systems.
The ability of the system to self sustain will not be controlled by the user, but will be totally automated by the control electronics. He compared it to a hybrid electric car in which the computer decides whether the engine runs or if the vehicle runs off the battery, or if the brakes are applied or if the regenerative system is used to slow the vehicle.
NATIONAL INSTRUMENTS AND STABILITY -- National Instruments (NI) is working with Rossi to design new control systems for the one megawatt and home E-Cat. With these new control systems, the stability of E-Cat units has been improved. The key issue needed to be resolved by the control systems is the ability to keep the reactor stable when steam temperatures above 120C are being produced. During the interview he stated that great progress is being made. On his blog he has indicated that they have been able to achieve stable steam production of 400C. This will be important for the efficient production of electricity.
He went on to say that in a meeting with NI's engineers and scientists, they explained to him that they did not want to just design a control system for him, but wanted to teach him how to design one. Their philosophy is not just to give a man a fish, but to teach the man to fish.
MILITARY CUSTOMER -- In addition to the help of NI, the Colonel Engineer who controlled the test of the one megawatt plant on Oct. 28th is working with Rossi to improve the control systems of the plant. Currently, the customer and NI are working to improve the control system, and are changing the gaskets in the system to stop leaks from taking place. He mentioned that the military representative he is working with is an expert into thermodynamic systems.
The fact that a new control system is being installed is not a bad thing. It is a very good thing. If the customer was not satisfied the E-Cat worked, he would not be helping with the development of a new control system. The fact that the military, NI, other partners that remain undisclosed, and Rossi are all working together on this project shows the significance of the technology -- and its reality!
UNDERWRITERS LABORATORIES -- Rossi said that they have sent prototypes to UL, and they are working with them to get the home unit certified for "UL approval".
This was a major announcement. If they are at this state of development, it means they are very far along. This alone would be worthy of a feature story. As far as we know, this is the first exotic free energy technology that has been submitted for UL approval.
You don't submit something to UL until you have a final version. What is submitted to UL is what is taken to market. If any changes are made, they have to once again pass through the UL certification process, which takes several months.
CATALYSTS -- In regards to a question about the importance of the catalysts, Rossi stated that the system will not work without them. According to him, no one has been able to make a practical nickel hydrogen system because they did not have the proper catalysts. He did not refute the statement that they are actual physical elements added to the reactor core, in addition to nickel and hydrogen. It needs to be remembered that he has stated over and over again that the catalysts are physical elements, and not a type of process.
RADIO FREQUENCY GENERATORS -- In addition to the catalysts, a question was asked about the radio frequency generator that somehow interacts with the reactions inside of the core. Rossi stated this information is very proprietary, but gave a few clues. First, he compared the use of the radio frequencies to martial arts. He claims that the radio frequency generator allows the forces that would normally prevent the fusion process from taking place (Coulomb forces) to work for you, and not against you. The full theory of how the system works will be revealed, "soon," he said.
RESPONSE TIME -- Rossi explained that the E-Cat technology does not have the response time of a gas powered heater that can be instantly turned on and off. However, it is perfectly suitable for home heating. Also, I think it should be pointed out that with the E-Cat technology it does not matter a great deal if energy is wasted. For example, the energy is so cheap, there will be no financial reason not to keep it turned on at all times -- even if it can be slow to throttle up and down. If all of the energy did not need to be used, some of the heat could be vented into the atmosphere.
It was also discussed that a great application of the E-Cat technology will be to preheat water for power plants. However, there is a lot of legal red-tape here, even if the technology is ready. It can take years for a power plant to obtain the certifications to change their system in any way.
SAFETY -- It was once again confirmed the device is totally and completely safe. No radioactive substances are used, and no radioactive waste is produced. Also, no pollution of any kind is emitted from the device. Importantly, it cannot "melt down" like a traditional nuclear reactor. In an E-Cat, if the reactions grow too intense the nickel powder will simply melt (destroying all of the reaction sites) and the nuclear reactions will cease.
GAMMA RADIATION AND ANTI-MATTER -- The E-Cat technology produces low energy gamma radiation that is converted into heat inside of the reactor. The signature of the gamma radiation that has been detected is said to be 511 keV at 180 degrees. These gamma rays are thought to be produced when electrons impact positrons and annihilate each other. So, if we understand correctly, Rossi theorizes that inside of the E-Cat there are anti-matter/matter annihilation taking place, releasing energy. However, he stated this is just a side effect of what really takes place, which he has previously indicated is nuclear fusion.
INVESTMENT -- Rossi is open to investment by businesses and organizations that want to invest relatively small sums of money. However, he is not interested in families and individuals investing in the technology, because there are too many risks at this time. Although the technology works, they have to get the E-Cat on the market successfully. They have certifications to obtain, a factory to setup, and other issues to deal with. Once the home units are on the market, they will at some point "go public" and individuals will be capable of investing.