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"The reported perception of an object or light seen in the sky or upon the land the appearance, trajectory, and general dynamic and luminescent behavior of which do not suggest a logical, conventional explanation and which is not only mystifying to the original percipients but remains unidentified after close scrutiny of all available evidence by persons who are technically capable of making a common sense identification, if one is possible."
The UFO Experience: A Scientific Inquiry by J. Allen Hynek, Henry Regnery, Chicago, 1972, p. 10.
Originally posted by gortex
A report from 1959 this time in Redmond, Oregon and made by Redmond Police officer Robert Dickerson
Dickerson saw a strange bright light [white ball shaped?] rapidly descending north of the airport then stopped and hovered several hundred [200?] feet above ground for several mins where it lit up the juniper trees below. He drove toward it on the Prineville Hwy then turned toward the airport, when the object turned orange [reddish-orange?] and moved rapidly to [dive and hover?] about 10 miles NE of the airport at about 3,000 ft
which in turn reported it to Hamilton AFB, Calif., which scrambled 6 F-102 jets from Portland [?] to intercept UFO. FAA station observers saw object hover and emit long tongues of red, yellow and green light which extended and retracted at irregular intervals. As F-102’s approached the object from the SE [?] it turned into mushroom shape, emitted red and yellow flames from lower side and ascended rapidly, disappearing above scattered clouds at about 14,000 ft
It seems you've found another interesting case from the time of high strangeness
After more pressure from NICAP and several legislators, however, the airforce finally announced the "true" explanation: the witnessess had seen planet Venus
USAF "force fit" debunks
Originally posted by Thundersmurf
Thanks for bringing this one up. A lot of these old cases have some patchy evidence to back them up, but I like to hear about them anyway; it's a good reference for comparison to other sightings and encounters.
Department of National Defence (DND)
Intelligence, Sightings of Unknown Objects
Record Group 24, Volume #17984, S-940-5, Part 1, T3291
RED UFO OVER MONTREAL, QUEBEC, APR 12/59:
101 05/05/59 Squadron Leader Wood, Air Officer Command, Air Defence Command
To: Air Force Headquarters, Chief Air Staff
Re: Red UFO over Montreal 04/12/59
102 04/26/59 Carr of Inter-Continental Aerial Research Foundation (ICARF)
To: Air Defence Command, St. Hubert, Quebec
Re: UFOs over Montreal 04/12/59
But the bubble burst on April 12, 1959, when a red disc-like UFO was spotted over Air Defence Command Headquarters at St. Hubert Air Force Base, east of Montreal! The sighting was subsequently confirmed by military authorities. (See Chapter 6, 'UFOs and Military Installations'.) These embarrassing leaks led to further tightening of security measures in an effort to eliminate any further unauthorised disclosures.
Soon after, RCAF Group Captain L.C. Dilworth, a spokesman for the Chief of Air Staff, wrote to a NICAP member:
The RCAF has recently implemented the JANAP 146(D) procedure for the reporting of vital intelligence sightings. (UFOs included)... Needless to say, the RCAF, in concert with American Forces, is interested in all such reports, and evaluation is done on a systematic basis. While the outcome of individual evaluations is not made public, you may rest assured that any threat to the security of Canada or the United States will be reflected in appropriate military plans.(19)
Under the JANAP 146(D) provisions, any person (military or civilian) reporting a UFO sighting through official channels is subject to prosecution under the Canada Official] Secrets Act of 1939 if convicted of unauthorised transmission or disclosure of such a sighting.(20) As a deterrent, JANAP 146(D) and its successor, JANAP 146(E) (amended it March 1966), were effective in preventing additional UFO leaks.
Originally posted by NightFlight
reply to post by karl 12
Thanks, Karl, The fifties and sixties were very tense years between the USSR and Canada and the US. I was born in '54 and remember in the late fifties bombers flying twenty four hours a day on defensive patrol to react against a USSR nuclear threat. All governments were on edge. More than once did UFO's set off alarms on the radar and DEWS (Distant Early Warning System) line in Alaska and the Arctic. Thank goodness cooler minds prevailed. Also participated in many "duck and cover" school drills.
"During the 1955 Warsaw Pact exercises, a radar station in the area of Warsaw recognized two targets over the Gulf of Gdansk. The targets were moving at a speed of 2,300 km/h at an altitude of 20 thousand meters. In those days there was no aircraft with such performance. At one point it was noticed that the two objects did a 90 degrees turn, literally on the spot with no turning radius. This maneuver at such high speeds cannot be done. Most modern aircraft are unable to do so even today, and that was 50 years ago".
Colonel Ryszard Grundmanem - Head of Poland's Air Traffic, Air Force and Air Defense
"Here we had a number of object seen coming in across the North Sea on coastal radar. It looked like a Russian mistake. Jet aircraft were scrambled. The objects were travelling at quite impossible speeds like 4-5000 mph and then came to an abrupt halt near to one of these stations not very high up. Jet aircraft picked them up on aircraft radar. The objects then simply made rings round them."
"Inevitably this led to the sort of enquiry which you would put in hand if you had any military responsibilities. Had something gone wrong with ground radar or with aircraft radar? We experienced pilots going out of their minds? Were people having fantasies? We *had* to investigate cases of that kind. Over the years - although there were not an enormous number of such cases - there were a sufficient number to persuade me, and a number of air staff friends with whom I had to work, that something was going on, sporadically, in British airspace which we could not explain."
"But we did not particularly want to make public statements about that. Not for something that we had no explanation."
Ralph Noyes,Senior Official with British Air Ministry - retired as Under Secretary of State in 1977
Highly Maneuverable Lights Tracked / Fighter Scrambled April 13, 1959
Antigo & Madison, Wisconsin
At 7:20 p.m. local time, 25-30 red and green lights above a bright yellow light were observed visually and were tracked on a AN/FPS-20 Radar. The lights moved in an erratic manner and were highly maneuverable, seemingly picking up to very high speeds. A fighter plane of the 327th Fighter Group was scrambled and went to 46,000 feet. When the pilot returned to base the objects were still in the area. The length of the observation was around two hours.
NICAP Chronologies -1959
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