reply to post by Winged-Sphinx
ATS is NOT a government website. It was started as an alternative news source site by SO, Springer, Crakeur, and Simon Gray....I think they were the
ones. They have presented US, the ATS community with the space, the forums, the resources, the servers and many other things to discuss everything
from current political issues, to full blown tin foil hat wearing subject matter.
One of the first things ATS discussed was 9-11. And it has evolved from there to the LARGEST alternative news site on the internet today.
For statistics and more info on this see here
There are over 13,000,000 total posts on 781,000 different threads. Of course there is moderation that goes on. Often not enough, but the mods here do
an excellent job in trying to keep up with all the new topics, posts and members.
Some topics are allowed which I wish weren't...lol. Because some people are idiots and can't have decent discussions. Other topics I wish were
allowed but aren't for the same reasons.
You wanna know why ATS isn't government controlled or run? It's too organized. The owners, admins, super mods and mods do too good of a job for the
government to have anything to do with it. In fact, I'd say a large portion of topics here on ATS deal with government incompetence in one way or
another. I seriously doubt the US government would allow such free discussion of certain issues. Especially ones involving sitting Presidents.
This topic comes up quite frequently. It finally dawned on me a couple of months ago why some people seem to think ATS is government run. ATS is about
Denying Ignorance. The government itself...and not just the US government are often quite ignorant. To put it another way...ATS is a place for people
like you and me to ...for lack of a better term..."fight the man." The problem is...you fight the man long enough, eventually you have the potential
of becoming the man yourself.
ATS does to an extent disallow certain discussions to go on here. Most things are allowed though. But small one line posts that add nothing to the
thread, or personal bashing of others on here isn't allowed. Some people claim it is because of money. In a way it is. If there is nothing but
rampant stupidity everywhere you look here, this site would no longer be the top and the best at doing what it does. I think even some of the owners
would like some topics to be able to be discussed, but they never can without it breaking down into ignorance.
ATS doesn't pay for itself...and having as many servers and techs to manage those servers costs money.. And advertisers don't like having their
products advertised in the middle of a 3 ring circus and name calling matches.
I had a history professor in college who used to like to say " eventually revolutionaries become conservatives." In a way that has become true here
too. Yeah...it's still sort of a fringe site. But it moves lots of traffic. So the owners have had to become conservative to an extent. At least
about certain things. But there is nothing on ATS that could be considered as construing fear that you can't find in the mainstream media today.
Maybe ATS has been "fighting the man" too long...and now some people believe they are the man. But I assure you, if ATS were government controlled
many forums wouldn't exist here which already do. And there would be way more moderation/censorship than there is. I have been wanting to say this
for several months now in a thread like this..but they usually get 404'd before I can reply.
I appreciate the fact ATS gives us a place to discuss issues that need discussing. There have been several mainstream newsworthy events that broke
here on ATS before anywhere else.
So to SO, Springer, Simon and the rest of the ATS staff....I just want to say thank you for allowing this site to exist. I may not always agree with
the rules...and have myself been in trouble here once or twice, but there are rules for a reason. I doubt a government site would have such rules. And
to those staff I mentioned above, thanks again for being
Now next time someone want's to claim ATS is government owned, they really need a video of Obama or Congress saying it is...cause I don't believe it
for one second...and most other members don't either.