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posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 11:26 PM
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You can absolutely see stars in space. However, when exposed to a brighter object, such as the sun or even the ISS, the stars are dim by comparison. The reason why you can take pictures of them, but its more difficult to take a video, is simply a matter of exposure settings on the camera. I m sure you can take video of the stars, but you have to have an video camera with an exposure setting on it.

Now that I further think about it…
Exposure settings work by allowing the film to be exposed to the open shutter for longer periods of time, thus allowing dimmer objects more time to “burn” into the film. A video camera runs at 30 frames per second. You’d actually have to be able to slow that speed down to allow for a longer exposure. In order to really take video of the stars you’d have to use a long exposure time-lapse camera to make a video. It would not be possible to run that film in real time because the changed exposure time would affect the FPS.

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posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by CrazyRaccoon
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Then why are some claiming that you need an atmosphere?



I love this post next to your avatar, looks as though I'm hearing the words come out of the avatar's mouth.


Atmosphere will diffuse and spread the light source to an enlarged area, to give us the appearance of a larger, yet dimmer light source. But it has to be dark out for that to work well, people in the middle of New York City for instance probably don't see many stars when they look up through the cavernous skyscraper canyons in a brightly lit street. People in the middle of Nevada when the moon is dim can see the entire Milky Way. You now this. I live in the city now, so my horizons are high, and light pollution is great, so I don't get my toy telescope out much.

When I lived 12 or so miles out from the city at the farm, (before the city expanded toward that place) my sky was dark to the north, and brightly hazy south towards the city, so I looked north to the sky mostly. In fact a main artery roadway was a mile east of me, I could see that glow from that distant street in the sky over the tree tops also, so I also didn't look to the eastern sky much either, but I had half of the sky to look at. It's an interesting sight to be on an edge of light pollution, gives one clear understanding of how it effects your view through it.

You don't have that in space if you aren't looking at a huge bright object, or on a huge bright object, or orbiting Jupiter or earth or something, light scattering diffusion in the vacuum of space is absent, but light reflection isn't. When you look to the black side, after your eyes adjust, stars and more stars emerge. It's a matter of exposure and proximity.



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 05:45 AM
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ok, lets just humor you for a moment.... theres no such thing as space, whats your opinion on whats really out there?



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 07:53 AM
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Thanks! i kind of knew about that but i needed it to be verified


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posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 09:55 AM
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haha you beat me to it!

ok...

let me try another one,

they dont want you to have the ability to film the moon which is actually a door

you might catch it slightly ajar and that would cause mass panic and everyone would wake up
from their eternal slumber lol



and take more vitamin c you will feel better



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 11:55 AM
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you guys kill me with all your theories... maybe you should read, and learn something about refraction of light, and how atmospheres work.... of course you can see stars from space via pictures, because they are typically long exposure, and have the sun's light kept out of the viewing angle, video cameras work alot like our eyes, which also have a problem seeing stars in space, because of their short exposure per frame....

Try going outside in a big city and look how many stars you can see on a clear night.... the bright lights around flood the sky with light, which makes it harder to see the stars. Now do the same test, miles away from civilization.... You will be amazed at how clearly you can see the stars, and how many more of them are actually visible.

The Sun is basically one giant light, that does exactly the same thing that the city lights do, but in a larger scale, since it is no longer filtered by the atmosphere.



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:15 PM
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Yeah i know what you're saying i actually lived in the city and i could not see one single star in the sky... only one or 2 planets and the moon



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by CrazyRaccoon
Stars visible when the people in orbit film space from their craft? are video cameras worse than picture cameras or what? because with picture cameras you can see tons of stars but with video cameras you see basically no stars...
I'm scared are we trapped in an alien like dome where we can't penetrate it?



It is called the bubble and yes you are trapped inside it along with other star systems and other species of life, along with all that other stuff inside the bubble. GET OVER IT.



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:51 PM
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Also did you know that multi-verses might exist? if this is true then something like that would need a god



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by CrazyRaccoon
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Also did you know that multi-verses might exist? if this is true then something like that would need a god



There are many bubbles. Until you get outside of the bubble will you realize there are vastly more of them. You are all in what is called A CELL. A bubble. There are many cells, just like all the cells in you.



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 02:18 PM
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Imo,Its highly likely that what we think of and see as outer space,is actually a three dimensional holographic illusion,projected by class-3 aliens from another dimension in a way so that our five senses will perceive it as being something thats real...
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posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by CrazyRaccoon
Stars visible when the people in orbit film space from their craft?


It was discovered in 1923 by Prof. Herschel Barrington that starlight cannot be seen from space because the photons must react with an atmospheric medium in order to be seen. This can be confirmed by projecting a laser through a vacuum with no dust or air. The beam is completely gone. There is still a huge debate as to where the light is between the source and the atmosphere that allows it to manifest and be seen. The current theory is some kind of fifth dimension of subspace.
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posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by DaveNorris
ok, lets just humor you for a moment.... theres no such thing as space, whats your opinion on whats really out there?


Essentially, space is composed of "nothing" that we can perceive in a three-dimensional sense. If anything, it is a curved fifth dimension that is not compressed enough to manifest what we understand is matter/energy. It is only past a certain compression density threshold that existence in three-dimensions is capable of happening.



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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Everyting we see,hear,taste,touch and smell is taking place within our brains and nowhere else.All is illusion and so to is outer space.Our limiting five senses make it impossible for us to perceive reality the way it really exists and we are virtually unable to even comprehend whatever reality actually is...



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by Blue Shift
It was discovered in 1923 by Prof. Herschel Barrington that starlight cannot be seen from space because the photons must react with an atmospheric medium in order to be seen.
This can't be true. Hubble can "see them" for a start.... The human eye can detect a single photon, although we are rarely conscious of it. If our eye is present in space then it can detect photons. My point about the brightness of the sun makes far more sense.

In space the eye and, therefore, the brain is overwhelmed by the presence of other light sources so we are not conscious of the presence of the photons from stars even though some hit the eyes photoreceptors. Yes, it may be that we are seeing scattered stellar light caused by the interaction of photons with the atmosphere when on Earth but stars can be seen from space given the right conditions. Surely there is an atmospheric medium on the ISS for example....



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 09:59 PM
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We are told as fact that the universe is around 13.75 billion years old and yet we are also told that the universe is around 93 billion light years across in diameter?!?!

If it is actually speeding up,expanding outwards in all directions faster and faster,then we will never be able to know how immense it actually is,because its outer most receeding light will never reach us?!?! > en.wikipedia.org...

Those unimaginably vast numbers and immense stretches of time and what they actually mean are so unbelievable and mind bending that i dont believe its our true reality and so i think that the universe is actually a three dimensional holographic illusion...
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posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 10:06 PM
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Why would it be an illusion? and by who or why?

i think the universe stopped expanding and formed another universe and so forth..... nothing known to science can escape the universe.

Unless aliens are 100million years advanced and they come from a different universe



posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 11:02 PM
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The universe as a hologram > www.earthportals.com...

Why its probable we live in a simulated reality > usu-shaft.com...


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posted on Jan, 12 2012 @ 11:28 PM
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Originally posted by cloaked4u

Originally posted by CrazyRaccoon
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Also did you know that multi-verses might exist? if this is true then something like that would need a god



There are many bubbles. Until you get outside of the bubble will you realize there are vastly more of them. You are all in what is called A CELL. A bubble. There are many cells, just like all the cells in you.


That's not what multi-universe is. Mulit-universe is a theory which entertains the idea that all possibilities exist. Think of a giant jar of marbles and we are one marble. A universe that is a solid from the primeval atom, the Big Bang to the Big Crunch that may and does lead to another primeval atom, a cycle that repeats itself infinitely. That's why we are all alive right now. Because we only know when we are alive. The possible trillions of years in between are like a twinkle of the eye to us. We are born and die then we are born again living the same exact life again. We are traveling in a time wave through our "marble" right now only seeing a slice of it called the present.

Then there are other marbles in the multi-universe jar. Some have more total energy and some have less total energy than our universe. The total amount of energy contained inside a universe, meaning all energy contained in a primeval atom, dictates the course of all events that occur inside a universe from Big bang to collapsing back into a primeval atom once again. Some universes you are alive with variations on your life some are so different in events occurring that your parents didn't even meet, thus you don't exist. others the Earth does not even exist. The next universe closest to us could be simply the sands on the beaches are arranged differently, or even less of a difference where it's just one grain out of place, but a difference enough to be another complete universe. A close duplicate, but different. A grain of sand on a moon in some far off galaxy.


If it can happen it has in some other universe. The thing is that for something happen it has to be linked to events going back to the first nanosecond of the Big Bang, and its wholly demented on how much the total energy is within that universe. A fraction more energy and the event does not happen. A fraction of energy less and it does not happen.


Don't get it? Think that predetermination and chaos theory are both correct in their own way. All things have happened in some universe somewhere, and they repeat in that universe again and again. What will happen in what universe would be impossible to predict even if we had the knowledge of the possible universes.

At any rate that's what a multi-universe system is.

Read up on Dr. Kaku I suggest.

Btw its not a cell. It's chocolate chip cookie dough as Dr. Alex Flippenko demonstrated in one of his Universe episodes. (Yeah, IT'S ALL HIS SERIES!) found HERE > www.history.com...-antimatter-naturally-occur The clip is found within the 09 season I believe. All I know is he knows more than a troll.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 05:34 AM
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the 'void' of space is anything but empty, it is teaming with matter/energy. infact scientists are hard pressed to find an area in space that is completly empty



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