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Originally posted by CrazyRaccoon
I am not convinced that everyone is a human like i am... i think there is a conspiracy going on here that the government is refusing to tell everyone the truth.. that they are all just fake creations by someone or something.. for example.. how the heck does NASA know what planets 10 light years away look like if they've NEVER BEEN THERE? and a tiny ball of light is not convincing.
In conclusion i think i am in a dream matrix (in a false reality) and all of you are programmed to walk around all day and act important,
Originally posted by CrazyRaccoon
I am not convinced that everyone is a human like i am... i think there is a conspiracy going on here that the government is refusing to tell everyone the truth.. that they are all just fake creations by someone or something.. for example.. how the heck does NASA know what planets 10 light years away look like if they've NEVER BEEN THERE? and a tiny ball of light is not convincing.
In conclusion i think i am in a dream matrix (in a false reality) and all of you are programmed to walk around all day and act important,edit on 11-1-2012 by CrazyRaccoon because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by CrazyRaccoon
i think there is a conspiracy going on here that the government is refusing to tell everyone the truth..
Inside the cave:
In Plato's fictional dialogue, Socrates begins by describing a scenario in which what people take to be real would in fact be an illusion. He asks Glaucon to imagine a cave inhabited by prisoners who have been chained and held immobile since childhood: not only are their arms and legs held in place, but their heads are also fixed, compelled to gaze at a wall in front of them. Behind the prisoners is an enormous fire, and between the fire and the prisoners is a raised walkway, along which people walk carrying things on their heads "including figures of men and animals made of wood, stone and other materials". The prisoners watch the shadows cast by the men, not knowing they are shadows. There are also echoes off the wall from the noise produced from the walkway. Socrates suggests the prisoners would take the shadows to be real things and the echoes to be real sounds, not just reflections of reality, since they are all they had ever seen or heard. They would praise as clever whoever could best guess which shadow would come next, as someone who understood the nature of the world, and the whole of their society would depend on the shadows on the wall.
Release from the cave:
Socrates then supposes that a prisoner is freed and permitted to stand up. If someone were to show him the things that had cast the shadows, he would not recognize them for what they were and could not name them; he would believe the shadows on the wall to be more real than what he sees. "Suppose further," Socrates says, "that the man was compelled to look at the fire: wouldn't he be struck blind and try to turn his gaze back toward the shadows, as toward what he can see clearly and hold to be real? What if someone forcibly dragged such a man upward, out of the cave: wouldn't the man be angry at the one doing this to him? And if dragged all the way out into the sunlight, wouldn't he be distressed and unable to see "even one of the things now said to be true," viz. the shadows on the wall (516a)? After some time on the surface, however, the freed prisoner would acclimate. He would see more and more things around him, until he could look upon the Sun. He would understand that the Sun is the "source of the seasons and the years, and is the steward of all things in the visible place, and is in a certain way the cause of all those things he and his companions had been seeing" (516b–c). (See also Plato's metaphor of the Sun, which occurs near the end of The Republic, Book VI)[2]
Return to the cave:
Socrates next asks Glaucon to consider the condition of this man. "Wouldn't he remember his first home, what passed for wisdom there, and his fellow prisoners, and consider himself happy and them pitiable? And wouldn't he disdain whatever honors, praises, and prizes were awarded there to the ones who guessed best which shadows followed which? Moreover, were he to return there, wouldn't he be rather bad at their game, no longer being accustomed to the darkness? Wouldn't it be said of him that he went up and came back with his eyes corrupted, and that it's not even worth trying to go up? And if they were somehow able to get their hands on and kill the man who attempts to release and lead them up, wouldn't they kill him?" (517a)
Are all of you real or just a biological robot someone made by someone?
Originally posted by CrazyRaccoon
I am not convinced that everyone is a human like i am... i think there is a conspiracy going on here that the government is refusing to tell everyone the truth.. that they are all just fake creations by someone or something.. for example.. how the heck does NASA know what planets 10 light years away look like if they've NEVER BEEN THERE? and a tiny ball of light is not convincing.
In conclusion i think i am in a dream matrix (in a false reality) and all of you are programmed to walk around all day and act important,edit on 11-1-2012 by CrazyRaccoon because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by CrazyRaccoon
reply to post by yourboycal2
Okey then >__>