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posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 07:56 AM
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if they're so good and smart why don't they hurry up and release zero point energy




posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 07:58 AM
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What hardcore propaganda this threads tries to sell.

May we all refresh ourselves of the account of Adam and Eve and the serpent and see the similarities;

1Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

2The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

4“You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5“For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

6When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.

FYI: "naked" means that wickedness is exposed - not of being nude but that they had rejected the peaceful paradise for a world of good and evil.

Is it not a coincidence that the very same lies are used in the links?
1) Evil is good and good is actually evil. "God is actually Satan and Satan is actually the true god"
2) You are a god.
3) Appeal to your 'senses' (sight, touch, knowledge) and ditch the "old man" to know the real truth.
4) The promise of enlightenment and illumination.

The VERY SAME deceipt is being used all over again on people and they are falling for it again. Satan /Lucifer is not a "light bearer" - he is a liar, deceiver and a murderer as he always has been from the creation of the world. The only hidden knowledge in this world is that evil truly does exist and that it deceives. Why is it deceiving? To keep you from turning and seeking God Almighty.

The "OWO" is the "NWO". The only difference is that the End of our Age is looming and that deceived humans must be given reasons for what is happening unless they should turn to the Lord Almighty for the Truth. People are confused and they don't know what to believe anymore because they've grown up with such deceitful propaganda against God Almighty that they struggle to even look His way. He sits there waiting for us to heed his soft calls yet we don't recognise it because we've been taught that He's not really there! But He is.

"I cared for you in the desert, in the land of burning heat.  When I fed them, they were satisfied;
when they were satisfied, they became proud;
 
...then they forgot me."

Does this sound like a monster that these sites present to you? Even the most bloodiest passage in scripture means something if you will only put your faith in God Almighty through His Son Jesus Christ. Then you will know the truth.



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 08:05 AM
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So... the Illuminati are asking for donations for their website?


These certainly are not TPTB!

TPTB are Ogliarch...



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by purplemonkeydishwasher
 




You don't get it do you? I really don't care who these guys are or what they are trying to do. But if you post in this forum claiming you are "illuminati" ready to take over the "old world order", I will call you on it.

There are plenty of boards to spam viral marketing on.

So address the question, a supposedly centuries old organization registers their website with an address used by a number of scam sites, and the best press they get on the internet is by a smut peddler?

Not exactly coming off as enlightened... If you know what I mean.

There are about a million other red flags on that site, but lets just stick to that for now...


A million, hey? Give me 20. If you still believe that the same person who is responsible for the half-baked hydro site is as well responsible for the 2 million plus words archived for your perusal on a rather eloquently put together site, then there is really no further point in discussing these matters with you.

You don't have the ability to comprehend what is afoot, but it's ok! - there is always time.. somewhere else.



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by WhoKnows100
What hardcore propaganda this threads tries to sell.

May we all refresh ourselves of the account of Adam and Eve and the serpent and see the similarities;

1Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

2The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, 3but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”

4“You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5“For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

6When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.

FYI: "naked" means that wickedness is exposed - not of being nude but that they had rejected the peaceful paradise for a world of good and evil.

Is it not a coincidence that the very same lies are used in the links?
1) Evil is good and good is actually evil. "God is actually Satan and Satan is actually the true god"
2) You are a god.
3) Appeal to your 'senses' (sight, touch, knowledge) and ditch the "old man" to know the real truth.
4) The promise of enlightenment and illumination.

The VERY SAME deceipt is being used all over again on people and they are falling for it again. Satan /Lucifer is not a "light bearer" - he is a liar, deceiver and a murderer as he always has been from the creation of the world. The only hidden knowledge in this world is that evil truly does exist and that it deceives. Why is it deceiving? To keep you from turning and seeking God Almighty.

The "OWO" is the "NWO". The only difference is that the End of our Age is looming and that deceived humans must be given reasons for what is happening unless they should turn to the Lord Almighty for the Truth. People are confused and they don't know what to believe anymore because they've grown up with such deceitful propaganda against God Almighty that they struggle to even look His way. He sits there waiting for us to heed his soft calls yet we don't recognise it because we've been taught that He's not really there! But He is.

"I cared for you in the desert, in the land of burning heat.  When I fed them, they were satisfied;
when they were satisfied, they became proud;
 
...then they forgot me."

Does this sound like a monster that these sites present to you? Even the most bloodiest passage in scripture means something if you will only put your faith in God Almighty through His Son Jesus Christ. Then you will know the truth.






what proof have you other than a few misquoted and mistranslated versions and revisions of Satan's (Enki - creator of the brotherhood of the snake) given to you by the very powers that be? lol. cyclical logic failure.
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posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by wlord
if they're so good and smart why don't they hurry up and release zero point energy


well if everyone donated to their cause, or a specific cause of their choice rather than inflating the Vatican/Rothschild empire's banking statement, perhaps we might be there already.



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 08:44 AM
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Hmmmmmmmm

Next, I suppose we are to be convinced that

left = right
up = down
evil = good
black = white
in = out
satan = a wonderful angel of light

yadda yadda yadda

They sure are skillful at mind bending propaganda.



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by NeoVain
 


Hmmmmmmmm

Next, I suppose we are to be convinced that

left = right
up = down
evil = good
black = white
in = out
satan = a wonderful angel of light

yadda yadda yadda

They sure are skillful at mind bending propaganda.


Yes, do you understand that you are through the looking glass? If not you will always be lost. (:



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 09:05 AM
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Hi there,
I just did a light search about the domain "illuminati-news.com".
Here are the results :



Registrant:
The Good Steward
22241 Pinedale Lane
Frankston, Texas 75763
US

Domain name: ILLUMINATI-NEWS.COM


Administrative Contact:
The Good Steward, The Good Steward
22241 Pinedale Lane
Frankston, Texas 75763
US
+1.9038763256
Technical Contact:
The Good Steward, The Good Steward
P.O. Box
Flint, Texas 75763
US
+1.9038763256


Registration Service Provider:
Freestates - Texians 1st,
9038763256
This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords,
DNS/Nameserver changes, and general domain support questions.


Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 22-Sep-2011.
Record expires on 21-Oct-2012.
Record created on 21-Oct-2000.

Registrar Domain Name Help Center:
tucowsdomains.com...

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.FREESTATES.NET
NS2.FREESTATES.NET


So, owner is :


The Good Steward
22241 Pinedale Lane
Frankston, Texas 75763
US


This company owns 2 other domains worth noting :
freepress-freespeech.com...
hiddenmysteries.com...

The webservers are located inside the USA

hiddenmysteries seems to be abandonned,
freespeech first seems to be a files depot, but there's a website in one of the folders : freepress-freespeech.com...
This website seems to be an anti-nwo website, created in Oct 2000. It seems very old to me, long before I first heared about illuminati / NWO / cabals.
On another side, the webserver software doesn't seem that old :



Apache/2.2.17 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.17 OpenSSL/0.9.7a mod_auth_passthrough/2.1 mod_bwlimited/1.4 FrontPage/5.0.2.2635 PHP/5.2.14 Server at freepress-freespeech.com Port 80

Apache 2.2.17 release date : 19-Oct-2010

So, in my mind, these websites seem legit, but it's very strange :
- who really are the illuminatis ???
- why updating the server software of an abandonned domain ? why maintain it ? (it costs money to keep a website online)
- who really is 'The Good Steward' company, as it appears to be linked to a variety of websites / activities, but his own website seems down : thegoodsteward.com redirects here : www.ministrywatch.com...

Do you have any ideas ?
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edit on 11-1-2012 by Stouf because: Typos



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 09:12 AM
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reply to post by NeoVain
 


As far as I understand my history on this subject The illuminati are former common people who thru education and lots of hard work managed to gain positions of power or persuasion all around Europe, one in these positions they act like sleeper agents working for the good of the common man and woman, however once the group grew and grew to other parts of the world and the peasants work force slowly infiltrated the monarch and political systems as well as banking and law and education and all other positions of influence.

But this is were it becomes fishy, some say they gained power over the monarchs and elites of there time but once in power the true battle began with the wealth and monarchs of their day, and so the tale goes but I truly dont know if they are good or bad or if they still even exist.

I say the blueprint that makes up the illuminati could be effective if it was implemented by the people of today for our own purpose.



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 09:14 AM
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reply to post by valkyrie7
 


This is very interesting.. The wolf in sheep's clothing.. Would never expect them to be deceptive.



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 09:30 AM
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They are the good guys but are acting like bad ones then?
No im sorry,but the Illuminati are the scum of the earth.



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 09:57 AM
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For a little over a year now, my mind has wandered to this very idea in my time away from the realm of conspiracy theories (you gain a little perspective when you step away). Ive delved so deep into theories such as Illuminati, New World Order, Masons, 911, Reptillians (lol), Chemtrails, and more; yet now I seem to have come full circle to realize that the wealth of information handed out like a welcoming leaflet, just may be more propaganda.

I think to myself, why was it ever so easy to find information linking the term Illuminati to all that is wrong in the world.

I thought to myself, the world is in such a erroneous system that we dont even realize the slavery, and these websites want to tell me that is not a perfect system for people bent on ruling the world as tyrants? Is it so effective that the need to change it? Then, I always come back to the idea; "if it isnt broken, dont fix it."

I thought to myself, how is it possible that you type conspiracy theory into google and the top postings are about Illuminati, & Masons, while seemingly more of the wrong doing in the corrupt system belong to other cults like the Skull & Bones. Why does it seem as if this information was spoon fed?

I could very much get into the idea that this information was planted by those who wish to propagate the current system of volitional slavery in which most are ignorant to.

ETA: and of course, the information in these links (whileist they do line up with my thoughts) could just be dis-info and the Illuminati is the wolf that threatens the village.
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posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:14 AM
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Like I said before, are your parents "bad guys" because they spanked you and gave you rules and told you what you should and shouldn't do?

Were all sheeple when thinking of the earth as a whole, we need cultural programming and we need "rules" in order to function correctly within culture.

In the future we will realize that this is for our best development, just like we think of our parents today.

The rules didn't make sense until we grew up, just like our world seems nonsensical today.
Humans of today are spiritual infants, we'll realize that soon enough...and the realization will inspire the dissolution of our egos and open up our inner senses.

All the world's a stage.
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posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:18 AM
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reply to post by NeoVain
 

As if such societies ever communicated openly and told the truth. I bet the people who run this site and wrote this article has absolutely nothing to do with such a secret society.

And judging by the replies here it seems like there is alot of naive people on this forum that keeps changing views depending on what they read last.
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posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:26 AM
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Here’s the problem with that link:

EVERY dictator that EVER lived took a viable, public led, collective-angst driven movement and co opted it into doing his bidding…then, once in power, killed the leaders of that movement and used the collectivization achieved by its movers and shakers to consolidate power under central government.

Communist / socialist movements have been used as a vehicle for terrible military coups and evil intentioned dictators all throughout history. The ideas and methods of the collective are often legitimate and are driven by the populous. Evil men know this and use it as a means for control, almost always reversing or destroying the collectivist efforts in the process.

IF, and I really doubt it, this is the illuminati telling us what they are up to, they are, very possibly, tipping their hand and admitting that they are on the brink of defeat. It represents a change in tactics from oppressor to benevolent friend and helper. It fits the soon-to-be-dictator tactic that has been evident in almost every governmental regime change in recorded history.

“I support you” with a smile and a pat on the back till the knife is inserted…

Don’t buy into it. Don’t look for an external Savior to swoop in and save you. It is an extension of the External Savior Mythos that has been propagated by TPTB since their inception and they are just shifting the paradigm again to insure it is perpetuated endlessly.

Give us a list of your name, aye?
Give us an idea of who, by name, is the enemy, perhaps?
Tell us how you have been fighting.
Tell us something that doesn’t smell so much like oxdung.



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:44 AM
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reply to post by PapaKrok
 


I sent you a pm recently, it would be kind of you to respond, thanks



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:50 AM
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Behold, the curtain draws back...

Registrant:
The Good Steward
22241 Pinedale Lane
Frankston, Texas 75763
US



Domain name: ILLUMINATI-NEWS.COM

Administrative Contact:
The Good Steward, The Good Steward
22241 Pinedale Lane
Frankston, Texas 75763
US
+1.9038763256
Technical Contact:
The Good Steward, The Good Steward
P.O. Box
Flint, Texas 75763
US
+1.9038763256

Registration Service Provider:
Freestates - Texians 1st,
9038763256
This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords,
DNS/Nameserver changes, and general domain support questions.

Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 22-Sep-2011.
Record expires on 21-Oct-2012.
Record created on 21-Oct-2000.

Registrar Domain Name Help Center:
tucowsdomains.com...

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.FREESTATES.NET
NS2.FREESTATES.NET

Domain status: clientDeleteProhibited
clientTransferProhibited
clientUpdateProhibited



Websites:
Texas National Press
www.texasnationalpress.com...

Resist.com
www.resist.com...

Hiddenmysteries.org
www.hiddenmysteries.org...
www.manta.com...
Wow. All THREE illuminati work there in a double wide trailer!!

ReptilianAgenda.com
www.reptilianagenda.com...

Tgs Publishers est 2010
www.manta.com...

Someone named Lauren Savage filed for info from the city at that address…
concernedcitizenscoffeecity.com...

Ait…they seem to be publishers of illuminati related material, seems to be REPTILIAN HEAVY, which kinda flies in the face of the whole “Icke is wrong and bat#crazy” statement…

Looks like I may have taken this a bit too seriously….
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posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:52 AM
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I was always under the impression that there were different factions within the group.



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by metalshredmetal
reply to post by PapaKrok
 


I sent you a pm recently, it would be kind of you to respond, thanks


I replied last evening, but sent it again this morning. Let me know if you received it...



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