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Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by timetothink
The other thing confusing me...the first link says look to the founding fathers (which I do) not the mess we have now and the 2nd link says no...democracy and tradition bad...so even the Illuminati themselves have different stories......omg...I hope something happens soon so we know already. Well. I do agree democracy sucks (we are supposed to be a republic)...but I believe in making it on your own..the writer in one says work for what you get, but then the other sounds like share the wealth socialism...
Replied to myself what a goob...meant to edit.edit on 11-1-2012 by timetothink because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by NeoVain
I am a recovering Catholic trying to find my place in the world. So I do understand what they are saying. Still trying to figure out if I believe the one being thing or the mother nature/universe as an entity thing. I will continue reading the link, I like to see all sides.
Originally posted by Captain Beyond
Hmmmm...this sounds like the devil telling all the people he is not evil, but there to help them? What would you have them tell you?
Originally posted by nuttin4U
i heard the same thing...from an anonymous blogger...on infowars...who said they were with the illuminati...and this was 3 years ago. We had an EXTENSIVE conversation. He explained to me, that there was a war going on, between the elite. So, there could be some truth to this.
And, before you go scoffing at infowars, let me just say, Alex has awakened many-a-people....even if he is a bit of a fear monger, and a little obnoxious. Cut the guy some slack....he's doing his part...even if you don't agree with it. Heck, Alex woke me up to lots of things. He at LEAST points you in the right direction.
Originally posted by NeoVain
reply to post by boncho
Please do, challenge still stands.
Trying to attack them with finding a way they are trying to sell something is just cheap and you know it. All that info is free, even the stuff in those books.
I start to think you are really with the TPTB or OWO here dude.. jsut look at the frigging content!!
it is basically 35 ebooks worth of information, by adam weisshapt ffs.
I start to think you are really with the TPTB or OWO here dude.. jsut look at the frigging content!!
So, you have created new coded "legends"? In a manner of speaking. We hired a successful ghost-writer to create four coded 'novels' for us that would outline our purpose. The chosen writer was handsomely rewarded and sworn to secrecy. But… I apologise for pausing for so long. Let me just say that he will not be writing the fourth and final part. I am not permitted to tell you any more than that. We are seeking a new ghost-writer to complete the task. Did your enemies find the writer? Did they harm him? Or recruit him, perhaps? I cannot comment on any of that. The three completed novels are attributed to "Mike Hockney". Is that a pseudonym? Yes.
Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by NeoVain
No, you show your ignorance.
How does a pseudonym change the fact that this is a viral marketing strategy to sell books?
In short, based on your impression of this website, I can...
Create a website claiming I am the Illuminati, publish books related to the subject, earn money from the books. And therefore, I would be the Illuminati, because I and my website said so.
No questions asked.edit on 11-1-2012 by boncho because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by purplemonkeydishwasher
I went to the beer store today, and they gave me a free tshirt with my 24 pack.
What's your point?
Originally posted by Phosophoros
Interesting post, especially to me considering for the last while i have been thinking the same thing. the saying goes " if an opinion is popular it is usually wrong". It seems now days the word Illuminati is almost a household name and everyone seems to have jumped on the bandwagon that they are in fact evil, it makes perfect sense that the real evil men (should i say beings?) running the world into the ground would single out their opposition and persevere in belittling them and turning the general population against them and what better way then to adopt their name. I would like to point out that in the bible Satan has done the same, because people call him Lucifer when he is not, Lucifer means light bearer, the main confusion originally came from Isiah 14 where in the original hebrew texts it says heylel in place of where it has now been changed into lucifer by st jerome i might add (one of the greatest conspiracies of all time).
If we look into the past in the bible we see that over time and through the council of nicea the true sayings of Jesus (Yeshua) were altered, and quite likely heavily so, for example in luke 22 vs 10 Jesus supposedly tells his disciples to follow the water bearer into the house which he entereth in, well this is obviously referring to the sign of Aquarius and is alluding to a form of astro theology, this is not what Jesus originally taught, this is in fact a picture of paganism being painted over a being who literally was not of this universe but in stead from beyond. Yeshua came from the race of eternal angels and he came here to teach us that the god of the old testament was not in fact the God of truth, but instead the demiurge, Abrasax a demi god hence a jealous god.
The moral of this story is dont believe everything you are told we live in a world of darkness, we live in the "devils" playground but many of us contain a divine spark within that is of the God of truth, the essence of the Christ therefore rendering as the illuminated ones.....