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The Illuminati are the GOOD GUYS!

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posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 09:48 PM
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Hilarious... Their goals are to free humanity... But these members can't speak freely....
edit on 11-1-2012 by secretbonus because: Their not there




posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 09:50 PM
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Maybe the illuminati going back 2 hundred years and the culture of the time, or reality of the world and what people talked about and held important in that age were curious about their Christian or catholic background and also about new ideas and science.

The other day their was a thread talking about the plot of angels and demons, where the illuminati and the church had conflict. I think an extremist anarchist or the church put some illuminati to death ( in the movie). With ideas that back then weren't accepted by the majority or the powers that be, or the church. In Da Vinci code or in Angels and Demons he has a line that goes " my first book was about the illuminati" it stood out for me on purpose and resonated with me. In Da Vinci code it talks about finding all these cryptic riddles that lead on a treasure hunt and very abstract thinking. Maybe just looking at things from a different perspective. That was the one with the girl who had amnesia after her parents died in a car crash.

The thing with any kind of power is it corrupts people. A test of character , give someone power then watch what they do with it.



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:01 PM
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Originally posted by BlackStar99
What a great script, the Illuminati are the good guys fighting to install a communist utopia and eliminate the evil bankers.


Sounds perfect actually.



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by valkyrie7
one....how do we know this is in fact by them?


Sounds like them.


and two...how are they fighting the enemy?


Can't tell you that but it's not too complicated.



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:08 PM
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the devil? far from it actually were deceived every day we're told what to do when to do it what to think and when to think we act as this devil wants all the time we just don't know it we were taught by the christian right to hate that which is different than us all religeons do not by chance but circumstance it's our nature look around you nobody questions themselves anymore or enough follow us we'll have power together but you don't believe so you destroy through ignorance caused by fear that your wrong you know im right but you have the choice listen to your heart trust yourself people capable of leading themselves don't need a government since a government is only proof that your incapable of leading yourself or any form of rational thought if only for fear of faceing yourself wich is all that matters but a necessary evil is government blame the people that vote not the elected officials you have a voice use it a mind too u can better yourselves so do it you can make a difference acting in whats best for your community rather than yourselves bettering yourselves not deluding yourselves thinking you know because that's what you were taught or because you want to believe you can make the world better you can't you can improve yourself thus inspire others to also do so but you can't force them to be you which is what all religions can do that is the devil that is what he teaches hatred for others who think differently than you theres power in that yes but nothing lasting for people will hate u for it so choice is paramount
 



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by realhighup
reply to post by boncho
 


please just stop





thanks OP for this info. true seekers


Maybe you can explain why the illuminati stole a logo from Dan Brown instead of creating their own, since they are revealing themselves to the world on a crappy website...



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:12 PM
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I love how people still cry 'COMMUNIST!!!' whenever someone suggests that the current financial systems need to be removed/overhauled..

They don't get it do they.

It's not this or that form of government, it's something completely new, something which does not as yet have a name, something that incorporates aspects of various different governing systems but is it's own unique thing.

NO, the people out there trying to bring about change are not pushing for some currently 'known' form of government, they are pushing for an evolution of government based on the bits of pre-existing forms that worked, and the truth is that all current forms are just as flawed as each other, Democracy is put forward as this utopian system when the truth is that it still leaves too much power in the hands of an 'Elite' as does every other form of government, they all lack the nessecary oversight by the people. But they all have some good aspects as well.

You don't have to believe in Darwinian evolution to understand that things improve with trial and error, There are an almost infinite number of clear examples of this in our world, our children growing up and learning is one clear example.

So enough with the extremely dated cry of 'Communist' it's borderline ridiculous and is generally screamed from the mouth's of people that think that the current form of American 'Democracy' is not a massive joke, I mean the democracies of other nations are laughable but the American one is just hilarious.... It's not democracy, it's a business deal being brokered.



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:12 PM
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I'm not really sure why you posted this at all. You can search and find sites identical to this one all over the web, whether its illuminati or satanism or secret mumbojumbo rainbow warriors. Dude has a picture of himself on every single page....the page is an absolute wreck, bombarded by ads and spelling errors. Why would anyone even give this more than 3 seconds of their time?

I do agree that the Illuminati is not what all of you think it is. They represent the Illuminated. The new world order is part of a new age to come, to liberate everyone, it will change everything; and we cannot fathom it now so truthfully theres no reason to reason or explain or try to understand or debate. The Order is not affiliated with the Royal Families and many of the ideas that people have connected to them. There are some true members of the ancient order that run communications online. This website you linked in defense of the Order is just plain offensive.



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by boncho

Originally posted by realhighup
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please just stop





thanks OP for this info. true seekers


Maybe you can explain why the illuminati stole a logo from Dan Brown instead of creating their own, since they are revealing themselves to the world on a crappy website...


1. What logo are you referring to?
2. How do you know Dan Brown didn´t steal it from them?
3. Thread derail attempts are not welcome in this forum, as you should know.

The topic is about the message, which seems genuine. Stay on topic.



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:22 PM
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NOT ME.

I just get data from probes that are through the looking glass. LOL.

I'm praying that the treasonous culprits get flushed out the looking glass's lowest toilet into the rabbit hole's lowest cesspool.
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posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:23 PM
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Agree, enter Meritocracy, the Illuminatis own supposed version of societal structure, where nothing is inherited, everything is gained by your individual performance.


The Illuminati have always supported a meritocratic form of government. If you wish a brief introduction to meritocracy and rival political systems, we recommend the following excellent article by Wes Penre: www.illuminati-news.com... Like Wes, we advocate a Republic that applies meritocratic principles. He has presented the case exceptionally well. Isn't it time to start thinking beyond democracy? Isn't it time for a better society? We have seen democracy in action and it has failed to deliver. Only a fool would keep faith with a proven error.



he Illuminati's brand of meritocracy now comes with a commitment to limit the rewards of the most successful. Could anyone on earth complain if they were not permitted to earn more than, say, one million dollars a year? If the average person is earning fifty thousand dollars a year then a million dollars represents twenty times the average. If you're convinced you deserve more than twenty times the average, shouldn't you begin to suspect the greed virus has infected you?


Meritocracy



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:23 PM
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Guess you didn´t bother to click the 2nd link?

The first link is only for one specific article, i know the rest of the site is basically crap.
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posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:26 PM
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EVERY dictator that EVER lived took a viable, public led, collective-angst driven movement and co opted it into doing his bidding…then, once in power, killed the leaders of that movement and used the collectivization achieved by its movers and shakers to consolidate power under central government.

Communist / socialist movements have been used as a vehicle for terrible military coups and evil intentioned dictators all throughout history. The ideas and methods of the collective are often legitimate and are driven by the populous. Evil men know this and use it as a means for control, almost always reversing or destroying the collectivist efforts in the process.


YUP.

That's what folks like Hillary et al seem to be oblivious to. Or else they delude themselves that they are near enough the top of the scummy elites that THEY will be spared the first purges.

Well put.



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:28 PM
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Awesome post Orchus and not your first ,this one however is exceptional . Well played.

Neo/OP I am STILL reading and digesting what you led me to , gratitude really does not sufficiently cover the feeling I'm having now.

Many other posters in this thread have said things that as a whole my soul really needed at the moment.

There is a whole lot of ubermensch hanging around this conversation at the moment ....and it is ...uber.



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:29 PM
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Anyone who knows anything about true enlightenment knows that simple ideas like money, control, and slavery are archaic notions created by weak-minded men, the laziest of society.

The person who created this site got one thing 100% correct, and that's the fact that there are hundreds of groups that bear the Illuminati name, and that anyone who is enlightened is free to dub themselves as such, because that's the point. The Illuminati didn't fade away nearly 200 years ago, they became the "idea" of a better world, the pursuit of truth and knowledge, no matter how damning to the status quo, and they realized that patience would be their greatest weapon as all lies fall apart in time.
Afterall; which would you consider more trust worthy, something that can be backed by scientific data, years of studies, and mountains of evidence, that promotes mankind's growth and betterment, or something based on blind faith, with zero evidence to support its validity, that has been the cause of some of mankind's darkest moments, and that, to this day, still promotes ignorance over truth?



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posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:34 PM
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Evidently you decry the creativity, education, health, medicine, sanitation, hospitals etc. brought about by authentic and some even by not so authentic Christianity.

Further, your 'understanding' of Christianity seems to be a farcical caricature of the reality.



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by NeoVain
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he Illuminati's brand of meritocracy now comes with a commitment to limit the rewards of the most successful. Could anyone on earth complain if they were not permitted to earn more than, say, one million dollars a year? If the average person is earning fifty thousand dollars a year then a million dollars represents twenty times the average. If you're convinced you deserve more than twenty times the average, shouldn't you begin to suspect the greed virus has infected you?


Meritocracy


Damn right! which is why i have never been and will never be a fan of Oprah Winfrey (as an example, but a good one) She is the biggest lying, coniving two-faced b%^$h in America.
She gives to charity? she gives money that she has no right having to charity and even then only 1% of it... what in the hell does she need millions and millions of dollars for? How can she justify having that when even one single person has to go without?
And people smuggly suggest that people are not 'owed' anything just because they are alive... well the truth is that YES, yes they are owed something, they are owed the right to live, to eat and to be safe, these are inalieable rights of every human being

There is no fair, honest and rational way to support earning more then 500,000 a year nevermind a million.
"Because i earned it???"
No one can ever 'earn' the loss and suffering of other people

Sorry for the rant and the slightly off-topic nature of it, this particular subject always has this effect on me.



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by BO XIAN
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Evidently you decry the creativity, education, health, medicine, sanitation, hospitals etc. brought about by authentic and some even by not so authentic Christianity.

Further, your 'understanding' of Christianity seems to be a farcical caricature of the reality.


The good things done by individual religions are the result of well meaning individuals within their organizations.
There were Nazi's that done good things and helped people.. doesn't make the Nazi party a good group as a whole though.



posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:42 PM
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Originally posted by BO XIAN
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Evidently you decry the creativity, education, health, medicine, sanitation, hospitals etc. brought about by authentic and some even by not so authentic Christianity.

Further, your 'understanding' of Christianity seems to be a farcical caricature of the reality.


No, what I decry is the hate speech, the wars, the condemnation, the lies, the absurdity of their baseless claims, the vast accumulation of wealth, the sexual assaults, the cover-ups, the prevention of Human advancement and education, the stunting of medical sciences, and the hypocrisy.

What's farcical about the truth? Sure they do a little good here and there, that's called P.R. upkeep, but in the end we're defined by the majority of our actions, and their majority is nothing to praise (pun intended).




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posted on Jan, 11 2012 @ 10:48 PM
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What a shocking analogy.

The percentages of GOOD INDIVDIUALS DOING LASTINGLY GOOD DEEDS from within authentic Christianity

vs

the percentage of Nazi's doing good deeds is mind bogglingly and absurdly orders of magnitude different.

Perhaps 0.00001% to a billion or several billion.



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