Jan 28, 2009, C.D. said: You are not going to believe what just happened on the above top secret website, or you may already know what happens when you try to put the truth out there. I tried to start a thread to tell them about this, and also gave the thread to the article on your site, put a lot of effort into trying to get the word out. I also put up another link that I found on the subject, by a true illuminist, and the thread just "poof", disappeared, it isn't even in my ats! grrrr. That has happened a couple of times before when I try to put the truth there "with links" to prove it, and it just goes away! Do you know anything about them? I heard they are cointel. I tried to start a thread to get the word out. I will do it again tomorrow, I'm too pissed right now. Creepy crawlers anyway.
The Illuminati are opposed to monarchies, autocracies, dictatorships and oligarchies. But what about democracy? Why would the Illuminati oppose democratic government? The Illuminati believe that a high-calibre, well-educated, well-informed, autonomous people cannot be deceived by their leaders, and such a people represents the best means to ensure that the government governs in the name of the people and for the people. Democracy - supposedly government of the people, by the people, and for the people - is a disguised oligarchy. A small, elite group govern in their own interests and take active steps to dupe the people, to provide misinformation and disinformation, to exploit the power of their office to disguise their many abuses. It is advantageous to them to maintain the people in a state akin to that of a flock of sheep or a herd of cows - docile, unthinking, easily controlled, lacking initiative, incapable of resisting.
Are your enemies people like David Icke? Is he exposing your conspiracy? We are conspirators, yes, but our conspiracy is entirely benevolent. David Icke is not an enemy of the Illuminati. He says many things with which we agree. His problem is that he has not correctly identified the true enemy. His enemy is the same as ours, but he does not understand their real nature and purpose. His lizard theory is of course preposterous and discredits all of the many sensible things he says. It's most unfortunate that a clever man has played into the hands of our mutual enemy by presenting incredible theories that no rational person could take seriously.
What do you mean by "mutual enemy"? Icke makes many perceptive observations, but he erroneously calls the enemy the Illuminati and the New World Order and so forth. In fact, the enemy is the Old World Order - the people who have been in charge from the very beginning. They have no need to change anything because the world is already dancing to their tune. Their tyrannical dynasties have stridden the world stage for millennia. The last thing they want is a new world. Icke is correct when he identifies royal families, presidents, prime ministers, bankers, media barons, top business executives and so on as the enemy. He is wrong to call them the Illuminati. We are the very people who are waging the fiercest war against the enemy, trying to stop them choking the human race to death. We are the last and only hope for humanity. Everyone who opposes a New World Order is deluded - having swallowed the deceptions of the enemy - or is actively in the service of the powers that be: the Old World Order.
Originally posted by valkyrie7
one....how do we know this is in fact by them?
and two...how are they fighting the enemy?
Originally posted by jesiaha
People bitch about the status-quo and how the world is so messed up as it is in this ''old world order'' but also fear a new world order and deem it evil....so where's the change in this double edged mindset?...where's the room for improvement.
THIS is the card of deceit being played out to confuse and divide the mass. A new world order will come to pass and you'll be dragged in it kicking and screaming if need be just like a baby floating upside down in the womb only to be pushed and pulled out screaming into life ''NOOooo I was comfortable in there!!!'' only to realize...''hey it ain't so bad here after all.
Originally posted by Captain Beyond
Hmmmm...this sounds like the devil telling all the people he is not evil, but there to help them? What would you have them tell you?
Originally posted by pierregustavetoutant
Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss....We WILL get fooled again.
The Empire Never Ends.
Beware hucksters bearing utopia.
They are the Old Order with new clothes and dystopia wrapped in promises.