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From the horse's mouth -Iran Supreme council:-new nuke capability and threats to Humanity.

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posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 10:57 AM
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Link:- reported by Iran Supreme Council's propaganda mouthpiece - Kayhan news and picked up by:-.
Source:-english.cntv.cn...



On Sunday, the leading Iranian newspaper, Kayhan, reported that the Islamic republic has begun uranium enrichment at a new underground site well protected from possible airstrikes.




Khorasan quoted Ali-Ashraf Nouri as saying that "The supreme authorities of the (Islamic) establishment have emphasized that if the enemies impose sanctions on the export of our oil, we won't allow a drop of oil to pass through the Strait of Hormuz. This is the strategy of the Islamic republic in face of such threats."


While there are a few threads on Iran's posture, majority was from the media, non had provided where the source of such news came from. This post attempts to prove once and for all, to both the world and to Iranians, on who had said what, what had been admitted, and the MAIN CULPRIT who had actually threatened humanity.

Good read and evidences for lovers of that turbanned headed persian infidel leader that had been siding him all along against Humanity.

1. Nuke Enrichment.

From the horse's mouth - enrichment is at 20%. Iran authorities had claimed its nuke developement was for peaceful energy use, but 20% enrichment is NOT necessary for civil energy use. They then claim for medical uses, but Iran hospital does not have the infrastructure for such mind boggling supposed 'medical usuage'.

Furthermore, with 1,800 nuke centrifuges spinning daily to further enrichment, that is a lotta spin for medical use.


2. Closure of Hormuz Straits.

It had initially threatened to close the straits if sanctions were applied. Now the tune becomes if its oil is prevented from being exported.

What's this? It becomes Humanity's fault if NO ONE wants to buy Iranian oil? And Iran has the right to shut down a passageway that belongs to All Humanity?

Everyone needs oil, but there is a reason if other nations would willingly forgo Iranian oil by boycott, and that reason is the infidel persian leader's duplicity over nuke issues, which is a grave concern to every living being on Earth with further new nuke proliferation that goes without international consensus ponderation and discussions.

This order came from the Supreme Council, none other than by the turbanned persian infidel leader masquerading as Muslim, to the military.

May the military be wise and see through the duplicity of the satanist worshipping leader whom had supported and funded for the deaths of thousand innocents- both muslims and non-muslims around the world. If the military leaders do not, may the lower ranks whom are true muslims realizes it. One man harming not only the world with conflict, but to Iranians as well.

True Muslims and Humanity can NEVER unite with those whom cause death to innocents or those who provoke for such deaths as collateral dammage due to wars.




posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 11:09 AM
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Tread lightly here... There is not nearly enough anti American or Anti Israel material here. You may very well be called "blindly patriotic" - " ignorant" "American Sheep"

"Build and the will come" - Iran is the modern day hipsters, Palestine - They are standing up against the west.

All you have to do is defy the west, regardless of your motive or stance, to be a hero "round here".

Iran isn't just looking for electricity? Or medicine? You mean they want a bomb?

Iran is going to get a bomb... Iran WILL end up bombing Israel... It is a shame...



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 11:10 AM
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This is a really interesting thread and puts forward somewhat different ideas on Iran. The bottom line the way I see it remains the same.

The West is setting Iran up for the big fall just like they did Japan in the 1930s. When and if Iran closes the Straits the West will respond with military force along with the other regional powers. Iran will inflict some major damage and the US will use that excuse to declare war and demand their immediate surrender.

Note: This will be between the US and Iran. I would bet there's already an agreement in place as to who will actually occupy Iran

When they refuse boom they get nuked and nuked again until they do surrender.

Just an opinion on how it will play out. If it comes to pass I wonder where the Saudis fit in?



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 11:13 AM
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The Strait of Hormuz doesn't appear to belong to "all humanity" to me. It appears to be a narrow band of water between Iran and the U.A.E.

That's like saying that the strip of ocean between Los Angeles, California and Catalina Island belongs to all humanity, and anybody may pass between the two.

International waters, according to maritime law, start 25 miles off a country's coast. The Strait of Hormuz is a special case, though. It is 21 miles at its narrowest. They have come up with a special "Law of The Sea" concerning this.

From an article on Rense.com:
"Nothing in the historic trade came close to the importance of the modern flow of oil through that narrow passage. On a daily basis the Strait now witnesses the passage of ships carrying 16-18 million barrels of oil and at least 2 million barrels of petroleum products. That amounts to 40% of all the oil that moves in international trade. That means the view in either direction is normally full of shipping. Therefore, as anyone who looks at it quickly notes, any significant disruption of that flow would have immediate impact on the global economy, sharply affecting both energy supplies and prices.

In that context, it becomes terribly important who owns or controls the Hormuz choke point. Iran borders the north side of the Strait. The United Arab Emirates and Oman border the south side. The Strait is so narrow however that the adjacent coastal states are subject to special constraints of the Law of the Sea. In principle, under the United Nations Convention of 1982, all coastal states are entitled to claim coastal waters out to a 12 nautical mile limit, but the Strait is only 21 nautical miles wide at its choke point. The maximum either side could assert a right to is 10.5 nautical miles.

To observe the rights of coastal states while also serving the needs of maritime navigation, special rules have been established for the Strait: A six mile navigation channel has been defined consisting of a 2 mile wide inbound lane, a 2 mile wide separation lane, and a 2 mile wide outbound lane. Nominally, the inbound lane impinges on Iranian territorial waters, while the outbound lane impinges on UAE and Omani waters. The Law of the Sea permits innocent passage in both directions to all maritime users.

As the saying goes, "aye, there's the rub." In present circumstances, what actually is innocent passage? The steady flow of oil and commercial cargo through the Strait obviously qualifies. However, United States military and a range of contract commercial shipping, as well as coalition member shipping pass through the Strait enroute to Iraq and neighboring states to support the War. That flow qualifies as "innocent" passage to the extent that vessels in transit threaten no state on either side. All surface shipping to support the war has to come that way, and no one has questioned it.

However, what about the ever-surging flow of US naval vessels that are there overtly to threaten Iran? Much touted in US media are at least three US carrier groups and other naval vessels that are virtually on station in the region for months at a time and have an alleged missions either to show the flag as a threat to Iran or to provide precursor platforms for a future attack. Strictly speaking, do their moves back and forth through the Strait qualify as "innocent passage"?

The situation, to say the least, is ambiguous. The more strident the warlike media play around Iran becomes, the higher grows the risk that someone will misinterpret intentions.

Those tensions play specifically to last week's "confrontation" in the Strait. Both Iran and the United States Navy have been pretty careful up to this stage, given the frequently strident and accusative stance of American official voices and media toward Iran. That Iran would use speedboats to attempt an attack on fully armed ships of the line in broad daylight in the open sea is on its face absurd. That some Revolutionary Guard seamen-reportedly in charge of patrolling the area for Iran-would decide to do something foolish is possible. Recent Navy comments suggest American commanders on the scene did not consider the situation threatening. In that respect, the initial automatic and erroneous Pentagon and media reporting of the incident was unfortunate.

The incident probably will pass because there is nothing in it for either side. However, it underscores the dangers of the situation. American leadership has been goading, threatening or baiting-take your choice-Iran for the whole Bush administration. With persistent urging from Israeli leadership and lobbies, the US is being pushed to neutralize Iran. That means to both prevent Iranian acquisition of nuclear weapons, if possible, and keep Iran from exercising its natural role (given history, size, location, religion, and resources) as a leading regional political and economic force."

www.rense.com...
This article is almost 4 years old.



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101 1,800 nuke centrifuges spinning daily to further enrichment, that is a lotta spin for medical use.


You conveniently ignore ENERGY use.


Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101What's this? It becomes Humanity's fault if NO ONE wants to buy Iranian oil? And Iran has the right to shut down a passageway that belongs to All Humanity?


Humanity is not represented by the US and Israel.

The U.S. has no right to threaten ssnctions on countries that buy iranian oil because it's extraterritorial and violates FREE TRADE.



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by ShermanatorAll you have to do is defy the west, regardless of your motive or stance, to be a hero "round here".


Nice try at deforming reality, when reality is the West has bombed and invaded 3 countries since 2001 and Iran NONE. The West is engaging in a Hitler-like "Drang nach Osten" and Blitzkrieg.

China and Russia are fed up with Western aggression and empire-building. One border too far and the # will hit the fan.



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 11:19 AM
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20% enrichment is still 70% below weapons grade.

For Iran to have a nuke they need to enrich to 90%.

Cosmic..



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 11:23 AM
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May the military be wise and see through the duplicity of the satanist worshipping leader whom had supported and funded for the deaths of thousand innocents- both muslims and non-muslims


How is he a satanist? I haven't heard this. I assuming youre talking about Ahmjinedad?



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 11:25 AM
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Thanks all for the responses.

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Originally posted by Brasov

You conveniently ignore ENERGY use.

Humanity is not represented by the US and Israel.

The U.S. has no right to threaten ssnctions on countries that buy iranian oil because it's extraterritorial and violates FREE TRADE.


1. I repeat, if you had been blind or are blind - 20% uranium grade nuke is more then required ENERGY use. What are they lighting up in the streets and homes of Iran - Passenger liners each?

2. US and Israel aren't the only ones using that strait, just for your information, if trade and geography are not your strong points.

3. Free Trade? As defined by you? You mean I must buy from you or otherwise face your gun barrels?

Make sense, please.



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by airforce47
This is a really interesting thread and puts forward somewhat different ideas on Iran. The bottom line the way I see it remains the same.

The West is setting Iran up for the big fall just like they did Japan in the 1930s. When and if Iran closes the Straits the West will respond with military force along with the other regional powers. Iran will inflict some major damage and the US will use that excuse to declare war and demand their immediate surrender.

Note: This will be between the US and Iran. I would bet there's already an agreement in place as to who will actually occupy Iran

When they refuse boom they get nuked and nuked again until they do surrender.

Just an opinion on how it will play out. If it comes to pass I wonder where the Saudis fit in?


Uh, incase you haven't been paying attention. Israel started this. Yesterday they made a call on the U.S. and basically asked if were with them or not, so that tells you who is going to be leading this war. The U.S. is not going to nuke anyone so stop saying those unfounded lies. All youre doing is exacerbating and blowing this situation out of proportion. Only a fool would use the nukes we have the yield is high enough to crack the earth's crust which is why theyre nicknamed "crust busters" and "planet killers". The only way the U.S. would fire nukes at anyone is if they launched them at us first. Stop listening to propaganda.



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 11:28 AM
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are you a paid american propagandist?


Seekeroffraud101



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by SeekerofTruth101
 


How is he a satanist? I haven't heard this. I assuming youre talking about Ahmjinedad?


Ahmijinedad is just an opportunist puppet, and does what he is told or gets booted out. The power lays in the turbanned headed persian infidel leader masqueradig as a muslim to fool others. His actions, which the puppet cannot even hide, betrayed him.

Find out more on what he had done and ordered. You will cherish the knowledge when found and discovered on your own.



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 11:30 AM
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are you a russian/serbian or a russian/serbian living in Canada? or that serb russian member 'USAisdevil'??

Just a question?



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 11:31 AM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth1011. I repeat, if you had been blind or are blind - 20% uranium grade nuke is more then required ENERGY use.


Repeating a lie doesn' t make it true, but is a strategy to try and bypass the listener's common sense.


Originally posted by SeekerofTruth1013. Free Trade? As defined by you?


Who is entitled to define free trade? Uncle Genocide Sam?

Simple: FREE as in "free" and TRADE as in "trade".



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth1012. US and Israel aren't the only ones using that strait, just for your information, if trade and geography are not your strong points.


I wasn't appealing to geography, wannabe manipulator, but naming the rogue states that want to impose extraterritorial rogue laws on any sovereign country that chooses to buy oil from Iran.



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by Brasov

Simple: FREE as in "free" and TRADE as in "trade".


Cut the semantics BS and talk like a man. By threatening humanity with closure of a passageway it doesnt own if others boycott its oil due to the Iranian infidel leader's irresponsibility is considered 'free' and 'trade' as define by you?

Please dont waste further of my time.

Edit:- You can skip the name calling and ad hominem attacks on me. Only water off my back. Truth needs to be told, painful if it needs be.
edit on 10-1-2012 by SeekerofTruth101 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 11:36 AM
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Noticed in a report that the experts were saying they had 3000 centrifuges running. This would not be enough to generate the required fuel for nuclear power stations.

Hence they stated it must for making a bomb.

They can’t win on this.

The more they decide to enrich for a power station or for medical reasons it will be seen as an attempt to enrich quicker and make a bomb.

If you know what I am trying to say.

edit on 10-1-2012 by D8ncer because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 11:38 AM
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1.) Nuke Enrichment ?

Mutually assured destruction has kept us relatively Nuclear War free for the past 60 or so years.

Israel has Nukes....so What if Iran has Nukes to protect itself from being attacked by Israel ?

Why is this such big deal ?

2. The Straight's of Hormuz....

The Straights do border on their Nation's (Iran's) territory....they can do with it what ever they want on their own land and seas.

A Threat to Humanity ?

Why impose the sanctions upon them then ? That's a threat as well....the Iranians are reacting in kind....that is all.

This is sounding all to familiar....and exactly how we got rid of the Indians here in the USA.

Simply because they were outgunned and didn't look like us.

Problem....Reaction ....Solution.


Peace



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by Brasov

Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101 1,800 nuke centrifuges spinning daily to further enrichment, that is a lotta spin for medical use.


You conveniently ignore ENERGY use.



Then why doesn't Iran use Thorium?


  1. Thorium produces 10 to 10,000 times less long-lived radioactive waste;
  2. The fissionable thorium cycle uses 100% of the isotope as coming out of the ground, which does not require enrichment, whereas the fissile uranium cycle depends on the only 0.7% fissile U-235 of the natural uranium.
  3. The same cycle could also use the fissionable U-238 component of the natural uranium, and also contained in the depleted reactor fuel;
  4. Thorium cannot sustain a nuclear chain reaction without priming [22] so fission stops by default.
  5. null


Oh yeah. You can't weaponize Thorium.

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101By threatening humanity with closure of a passageway it doesnt own


Your timeline sucks, just like your person ass a hole.

The U.S. was first issuing a THREAT TO HUMANITY forbidding all sovereign countries across the globe to buy Iran's oil.

The U.S. forbidding THE HOLE WORLD to buy an essential commodity they don't own... that's ROGUE and you're a comedian.
edit on 10-1-2012 by Brasov because: (no reason given)



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