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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by borntowatch
Now when is a part of the bible to be taken figuratively? Dare I suggest common sense?
What about applying "common sense" to the following....
- Jesus walking on water
- Jesus raising the dead
- Jesus himself rising from the dead
- Jesus returning in the sky followed by an army
Does your common sense tell you those are figurative as well?? Or do you take it literally just because its there in your bible.
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
Jesus said....
For verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
-Matthew 17:20
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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by RealAmericanPatriot
Hey Moderators! Troll Alert!
This is not trolling.
Its right there in your bible. Read Matthew 17:20
And this is the religion section of ATS.
Or are we to assume you dont even have faith as big as a mustard seed, thereby rendering you unable to move mountains.... like Jesus said you could, only if you had enough faith.
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Originally posted by mainidh
I dislike religion, but I dislike people who get it wrong when trying to bash religion, and get smug about it.
The mountain here is not a physical mountain.
Well, obviously, they will be destroyed by Jesus once he gets here and burn in hell for all eternity along with the muslims, hindus, buddhists etc
Originally posted by filosophia
reply to post by sk0rpi0n
Can you perform brain surgery? No? then surely brain surgery must be a mythical act of magic then right? Just because you cant do something does not mean it is impossible. I told you many ways to move a mountain, yet you continue to ask for more. Your craving is unquenchable. It is like the parable of the arrow, if you get struck by an arrow do you first ask who shot it or do you remove it? If this was a real life situation you would forego climbing the mountain and instead wave a bible in the air and call christians fools because the mountain would not move. Then when someone tried to give you advice, you would say you want a less intelligent christian to stand before you and agree that everything you say is true and you are their lord and savior.
you are right that i cant move a mountain, but then again i never had any motivation to, if a mountain got in my way i think learning to climb it would be more efficient than trying to move it with my mind. But then again you dont want my advice, you only want advice from someone you can look down at.edit on 10-1-2012 by filosophia because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by SwissMarked
You do know that Christianity has Eastern roots correct...
I would'nt mind if Christianity had eastern roots... thats besides the point.
I am addressing the "bible only" christians who believe everything else other than christianity including eastern religions and philosophies are "satanic".
I must say, I find it rather Ironic how none of the "bible only" christians have been ignoring this challenge.
Originally posted by chr0naut
reply to post by Communicationwillfreeus
Great to hear of an answer to your prayers.
Truly a personal "mountain" has been moved.
Originally posted by sHuRuLuNi
Originally posted by Communicationwillfreeus
I am not seeing were it is described as a "stone" mountain as you are portraying it to be and it doesn't mention a hill as a relative comparison, as did you. So you are assuming, from what you used as your example verse that it is a rock.
I recently had a literal "mountain" in my life removed by what I would consider faith. My mom and her church, along with other churches in our area, have been praying for my dad. He even kept a prayer cloth in his wallet from a hospital visit with my mom's pastor, who came to see him after he had tumors and 1/3 of his stomach removed. He was diagnosed with stage 2 stomach cancer after his surgery and has been undergoing chemo and radiation for a few months. We just found out, after Christmas, that dad has no cancer in his body. The doctor kept saying, "I don't understand how it can just be gone." Dad is up to 140lbs after his 127 low.
To prove my story is not B.S. you can type in on the search engine "My Dad Has Cancer" under the moniker "turkenstein"
I am glad your father is better now. May God grant him good health and long life.
As to how the cancer is gone - well you said he had surgery and chemo.
Of course it can be an intervention of God - far be it from me to deny that, but the OP is still about literally moving mountains - it is hard, if viewed in the context, to understand those verses as a metaphor. They pretty strait forward.
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