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Good luck with that.
I mean it too. No snark.
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Topic started on 10-1-2012 @ 06:13 AM by lampsalot
I'm part of a movement that wants to see Oregon, Washington, British Columbia, and some surrounding areas (the far north of California, Alaska
Panhandle, western and northern Idaho and northwestern Montana; possibly the Yukon as well) to become an independent state called Cascadia.
Here's a link explaining it:
en.wikipedia.org...
The reason why is because this land forms a distinct bioregion, the region is distant both physically and psychologically from other parts of America and Canada, we share a lot of cultural tropes, like environmentalism and a love for coffee and flannel. Many things that are big elsewhere in North America aren't quite as big here, such as cheerleading and amusement parks. I don't think people here are quite as nationalistic either; there's not as much of a fierce American or Canadian identity in the Northwest, I think people think of themselves as being from the Northwest first and then from the US/Canada second. Not being patriotic isn't seen as a form of wickedness in the Northwest either, it's definitely not as flag-waving as places back east. I could be wrong though.
Since the American government, and also the Canadian government, since I'm sure if the US collapsed, Canada would too, are probably doomed to collapse and lose their power within the next few years/couple decades at most, shouldn't we prepare?
Us in the Cascadia movement aren't secessionists for the most part. We don't think it's necessary to secede from countries that have governments that are in the process of falling apart. We're really just trying to build a community here in the Northwest and forge a distinct culture/identity. We want a return to local economies, communities, and less dependence on globalization and fossil fuels.
Here's a link explaining it:
en.wikipedia.org...
The reason why is because this land forms a distinct bioregion, the region is distant both physically and psychologically from other parts of America and Canada, we share a lot of cultural tropes, like environmentalism and a love for coffee and flannel. Many things that are big elsewhere in North America aren't quite as big here, such as cheerleading and amusement parks. I don't think people here are quite as nationalistic either; there's not as much of a fierce American or Canadian identity in the Northwest, I think people think of themselves as being from the Northwest first and then from the US/Canada second. Not being patriotic isn't seen as a form of wickedness in the Northwest either, it's definitely not as flag-waving as places back east. I could be wrong though.
Since the American government, and also the Canadian government, since I'm sure if the US collapsed, Canada would too, are probably doomed to collapse and lose their power within the next few years/couple decades at most, shouldn't we prepare?
Us in the Cascadia movement aren't secessionists for the most part. We don't think it's necessary to secede from countries that have governments that are in the process of falling apart. We're really just trying to build a community here in the Northwest and forge a distinct culture/identity. We want a return to local economies, communities, and less dependence on globalization and fossil fuels.
reply posted on 10-1-2012 @ 08:16 AM by ColCurious
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I support anti-centralistic ideas so I'm curious about this.
Bigger isn't better when it comes to political powerconcentration and range IMHO and the USA are pretty huge.
Is this really a "movement" and how popular is it?
ETA:
I read about the Western Standard research study in your link.
I support anti-centralistic ideas so I'm curious about this.
Bigger isn't better when it comes to political powerconcentration and range IMHO and the USA are pretty huge.
Is this really a "movement" and how popular is it?
ETA:
I read about the Western Standard research study in your link.
edit on 10-1-2012 by ColCurious because: (no reason given)
reply posted on 10-1-2012 @ 02:48 PM by BO XIAN
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Have lived ~10 years in Spokane.
I hope y'all succeed.
I'm skeptical.
There's some fierce conflicts within the region. The Eastern 2/3 of Washington State feels consistently raped by Seattle. And the values of the bulk of the people in the Eastern 2/3 of Washington State, Idaho, Montana and Alaska tend to be much more CONSERVATIVE politically and in terms of Christianity than Northern California and Coastal Oregon.
It might well be that with the collapse of the USA government and Canadian governments, something could arise of that nature.
However, there's a huge assumption that's likely NOT to be true for at least 3.5-7 years or more. The assumption is that nothing would step into the vacuum left by the collapse of those 2 Federal governments.
However, the satanic globalist government has been building under the table all along and will be springing overtly onto the world stage as soon as they can pull it off. The Biblical script says they WILL BE IN CONTROL of the planet--every nation, more or less, for 3.5-7 years.
They certainly would not tolerate Cascadian rebels messing with their plans.
On the other hand . . . given the chaos that will be raging generally, God only knows what might be possible if folks in that region paid the price and truly sought God's blessing in such an endeavor. Otherwise--no chance, imho.
And, I don't see Seattle and parts of coastal Oregon going along with the idea of the New Testament parameters of a relationship with God Almighty . . . Who they pretend doesn't exist.
So, I'm skeptical . . . as much as I'd love to see something replace the Federal horrors intensifying daily.
Have lived ~10 years in Spokane.
I hope y'all succeed.
I'm skeptical.
There's some fierce conflicts within the region. The Eastern 2/3 of Washington State feels consistently raped by Seattle. And the values of the bulk of the people in the Eastern 2/3 of Washington State, Idaho, Montana and Alaska tend to be much more CONSERVATIVE politically and in terms of Christianity than Northern California and Coastal Oregon.
It might well be that with the collapse of the USA government and Canadian governments, something could arise of that nature.
However, there's a huge assumption that's likely NOT to be true for at least 3.5-7 years or more. The assumption is that nothing would step into the vacuum left by the collapse of those 2 Federal governments.
However, the satanic globalist government has been building under the table all along and will be springing overtly onto the world stage as soon as they can pull it off. The Biblical script says they WILL BE IN CONTROL of the planet--every nation, more or less, for 3.5-7 years.
They certainly would not tolerate Cascadian rebels messing with their plans.
On the other hand . . . given the chaos that will be raging generally, God only knows what might be possible if folks in that region paid the price and truly sought God's blessing in such an endeavor. Otherwise--no chance, imho.
And, I don't see Seattle and parts of coastal Oregon going along with the idea of the New Testament parameters of a relationship with God Almighty . . . Who they pretend doesn't exist.
So, I'm skeptical . . . as much as I'd love to see something replace the Federal horrors intensifying daily.
reply posted on 4-2-2012 @ 10:49 AM by snowspirit
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Something Cascadia might want to think about is the risk and expense from aging nuclear plants in the US and the cleanup costs involved....
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Something Cascadia might want to think about is the risk and expense from aging nuclear plants in the US and the cleanup costs involved....
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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