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Panetta admits Iran not developing nukes

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posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 10:48 PM
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Panetta admits Iran not developing nukes


www.rawstory.com

Appearing on CBS’s Face the Nation on Sunday, Panetta admitted that despite all the rhetoric, Iran is not pursuing the ability to split atoms with weapons, saying it is instead pursuing “a nuclear capability.”

That “capability” falls in line with what Iran has said for years: that it is developing nuclear energy facilities, not nuclear weapons.
(visit the link for the full news article)




posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 10:48 PM
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I was reading somewhere else but I've lost it so forgive the lack of link but, that part of what Iran is planning to do with it's ability to create nuclear power, is nuclear medicine to treat cancer patients.

I hope Sec. Panetta's words help put a stop to all this sabre rattling. Americans are sick of killing people already and I'm sure the rest of the world is sick of it too. Enough.

www.rawstory.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 10:59 PM
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Huh, imagine that!!!
The Iranians love their children too.
I didn't think they wanted to build a bomb to kill me all along.
S&F



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 11:00 PM
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And since when the warmongers care about facts?

If it's not Iran developing nukes, then it'll be Iran blocking the strait of Hormuz or Iran helping terrorists or Iran funding 9/11...

They'll always find a reason for more war.



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 11:26 PM
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Very well said! The goal is the regime change in Iran, then take over the oil and then move to North Korea or Syria or China and finally Russia. The AngloSaxon quest for 'total world domination' has taken sinister roles and has to be stopped as too many innocent people have suffered already.



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by Kali74

Panetta admits Iran not developing nukes


www.rawstory.com

Appearing on CBS’s Face the Nation on Sunday, Panetta admitted that despite all the rhetoric, Iran is not pursuing the ability to split atoms with weapons, saying it is instead pursuing “a nuclear capability.”

That “capability” falls in line with what Iran has said for years: that it is developing nuclear energy facilities, not nuclear weapons.
(visit the link for the full news article)



Trying to split atoms "with weapons" can be a daunting task.


But in MilSpeak...“a nuclear capability” means that the nation you are talking about are persuing a “a nuclear weapon.” Not a Power Plant.



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 12:31 AM
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When does the MSM tell the truth? Apparently when it comes "out of left field" it seems like. Like Vitchilo said they will always find a reason to make up another bogus war. This might just be another silly MSM tactic. Stay Vigilant



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 01:03 AM
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Kind of hard to develop nuclear weapons in a so-called "secret" underground facility like Fordo when it's being continuously monitored/surveillanced by the IAEA, given the passing grade by the IAEA themselves, and contained in the facilities by the IAEA.

It's even more difficult to develop a nuclear weapon when your only enriching the uranium to 20%, 3.5%, and 4% (also known and ok'd by the IAEA) when you need a minimum of 85% for any kind of weapon to actually perform its deadly duties.

It's also quite difficult to "secretly" develop nuclear weapons when you're informing the IAEA about your future plans to utilize this same enriched uranium for your Bushehr nuclear power plant expected to be up and running by February of this year.

And lastly, when your country is under constant threat of being attacked by your enemies with those threats growly expediently as each day goes by, you really don't want your populace accidentally getting irradiated if this enriched uranium gets blown to kingdom come via enemy missiles... so what do you do ? You relocate your research and development facilities to a safer, heavily guarded place... like say... an impenetrable underground facility.



Of course, these inconvenient facts are completely ignored by the war machine propagandists.



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by victor7
reply to post by Vitchilo
 


Very well said! The goal is the regime change in Iran, then take over the oil and then move to North Korea or Syria or China and finally Russia. The AngloSaxon quest for 'total world domination' has taken sinister roles and has to be stopped as too many innocent people have suffered already.


and when theres no one left to fight, they will turn on themselves just like we've seen with the beginning of the NDAA and SOPA.



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 01:25 AM
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Originally posted by CranialSponge
You relocate your research and development facilities to a safer, heavily guarded place... like say... an impenetrable underground facility.
I don't think there's any doubt Iran has undergound facilities.

The question is, what is taking place in them?

I don't think we really know. But IF they're developing nuclear weapons, they wouldn't do it where it's easily monitored. They'd do it underground, where it can't be monitored.



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by CranialSponge
Kind of hard to develop nuclear weapons in a so-called "secret" underground facility like Fordo when it's being continuously monitored/surveillanced by the IAEA, given the passing grade by the IAEA themselves, and contained in the facilities by the IAEA.

It's even more difficult to develop a nuclear weapon when your only enriching the uranium to 20%, 3.5%, and 4% (also known and ok'd by the IAEA) when you need a minimum of 85% for any kind of weapon to actually perform its deadly duties.

It's also quite difficult to "secretly" develop nuclear weapons when you're informing the IAEA about your future plans to utilize this same enriched uranium for your Bushehr nuclear power plant expected to be up and running by February of this year.

And lastly, when your country is under constant threat of being attacked by your enemies with those threats growly expediently as each day goes by, you really don't want your populace accidentally getting irradiated if this enriched uranium gets blown to kingdom come via enemy missiles... so what do you do ? You relocate your research and development facilities to a safer, heavily guarded place... like say... an impenetrable underground facility.



Of course, these inconvenient facts are completely ignored by the war machine propagandists.


Your information is faulty as the sherequantity of cetrifuges tells another story. As far as Panettas statement....this is a bone thrown to the Iranian leadership to save face and tone down the Iranian Rhetoric that is driving up OIL prices in an election year.

All Iran had to do in the first place was abide with it's agreements under the Nuclear Nonproliferation treaty...which it has broken time and time again. And if that little nut job of an Iranian Leader could just keep his mouth shut and try not to piss someone off every time he speaks....IRAN would not find itself staring down the barrel of a very large U.S. Military GUN!

A leader of a Major country does not threaten to cut off the flow of the largest supply of the worlds energy. This is like drawing a target on your forehead...and if Iran were to actually try to close the straight...they would loose much more than they are prepared to loose. It would be the end of the Iranian Navy, Airforce and all costal Iranian Military installations. Split Infinity



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 01:39 AM
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well the IAEA can do a good tap dance now and then from Y!news

Moscow/Washington, Jan 10 (IANS/RIA Novosti) The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has confirmed that Iran has started enriching uranium to the 20-percent level, which can easily be turned into fissile warhead material.
oh so now they say it can be used as nuke fuel, here it is if you missed it

20-percent level, which can easily be turned into fissile warhead material
does this mean they are not watching er no


'The IAEA can confirm that Iran has started the production of uranium enriched up to 20 percent using IR-1 centrifuges in the Fordo Fuel Enrichment Plant,' the agency said in a statement.

However, IAEA spokeswoman Gill Tudor said that all nuclear materials and operations in the Fordo facility are 'under the Agency's containment and surveillance'.
so what does Iran say lets read:


Iranian officials earlier said the Fordo plant, deep inside the mountains near the central Iranian city of Qom, was build to produce 20-percent uranium needed for a research reactor in Tehran, which produces medical isotopes to treat cancer patients.
oh yes the same old song and dance, as if to say "no I am not build bomb hand me fuse and timer, oh I just need that for cooking chicken, the stove keeps blowing fuse" , yea and the stove is run on gas.
this is were the story came from

Moscow/Washington, Jan 10 (IANS/RIA Novosti) The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has confirmed that Iran has started enriching uranium to the 20-percent level, which can easily be turned into fissile warhead material.
IANS India Private Limited via Yahoo! India News - 10 Jan 06:11AM



edit on 10-1-2012 by bekod because: editting



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 02:57 AM
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The question to ask with this Iran thing is how many countries has Iran invaded in the last hundred years compared to the number of countries America has invaded in the last hundred years and then ask who, based on the answer is the peace loving nation?



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 02:59 AM
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I don't think you guys are still understanding the way things have played out with Iran's nuclear R&D, and how in the past few months the MSM has twisted its facts to generate their war machinations:

- Iran has been enriching uranium to 3-5% for several years, under the watch of the IAEA, at their Natanz facility. In fact, they've been trying to finish building their Bushehr nuclear power plant since 1998... but the US keeps tossing monkey wrenches into the works all these years (sanctions et al). Russia stepped in a number of years ago and helped Iran finish the construction of the nuclear power plant so they could start using nuclear energy as Iran had been trying to do for over a decade.

- In August of 2011, Iran relocated its centrifuges from their Natanz facility to the impenetrable Fordo underground facilities, under the full knowledge and supervision of the IAEA. The relocation was done in order for Iran to be able to further enrich the uranium to 20% in a safer facility (announced by Iran 2 weeks later at a conference). All given the full okay of the IAEA with the agreement that it would be monitored.

- 3 months later, at the end of December 2011, Barack Obama (under the watchful eye of Israel) decides he doesn't like this idea that was already passed by the IAEA, and decides that he wants to push further sanctions with the so-called justification that Iran is enriching uranium for the "purpose of nuclear weapons development" in secret and thus "breaking their NPT agreements".

- From that point on it's been nothing but spin doctors in the media.

The Fordo facility was discovered by secret ops back in 2009, long before they ever moved their current nuclear R&D to it. This Fordo facility is the one that everyone has been jumping up and down about these past few months trying to say that Iran has been doing so secretly, breaking NPT regulations, not allowing investigations to check it out, blah blah blah... meanwhile it's been under constant monitoring by the IAEA since they moved their centrifuges there in August 2011, for crying out loud !

If anything "evil and secret" is going on in Iran, it sure as hell isn't happening in this Fordo facility that Obama and Israel are crying about and utilizing as their excuse for pushing sanctions.

Funny how the IAEA under NPT regulations has no problem with Iran enriching uranium to 20% under their supervision, but Israel and the United States do...


I'm not saying that Iran are innocent saints by any definition, there's not a single country on this planet that is, but what Israel and the US are screaming about (the so-called illicit goings on at Fordo) and trying to cause another war over, has absolutely no leg to stand on.

And as far as the price of oil skyrocketing... it has nothing to do with what Iran is or isn't doing and everything to do with the damn sanctions on Iran's central banking system making it nearly impossible for other countries to buy and import their precious Iranian oil needs.

Iran is cutting off their own nose to spite their face and allowing their arrogance to dictate their decisions by saying they're going to stop the transport of any and all oil in the Strait of Hormuz... But really people, what the hell do you expect an animal to do when you back it into a corner ?!



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 03:25 AM
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Originally posted by TDawgRex

Originally posted by Kali74

Panetta admits Iran not developing nukes


www.rawstory.com

Appearing on CBS’s Face the Nation on Sunday, Panetta admitted that despite all the rhetoric, Iran is not pursuing the ability to split atoms with weapons, saying it is instead pursuing “a nuclear capability.”

That “capability” falls in line with what Iran has said for years: that it is developing nuclear energy facilities, not nuclear weapons.
(visit the link for the full news article)



Trying to split atoms "with weapons" can be a daunting task.


But in MilSpeak...“a nuclear capability” means that the nation you are talking about are persuing a “a nuclear weapon.” Not a Power Plant.

The guy who wrote that article definitely seems to be a retard, but here is a direct quote from Panetta

"Are they trying to develop a nuclear weapon? No."


You can also hear the exact same words in the video that is in the same link.

Immediately after saying that he goes on to say

"But we know that they’re trying to develop a nuclear capability, and that’s what concerns us."


So if you are right and 'a nuclear capability' and 'a nuclear weapon' are the same, it must be surely news to Mr. Panetta



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 03:37 AM
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Originally posted by Arbitrageur
But IF they're developing nuclear weapons, they wouldn't do it where it's easily monitored. They'd do it underground, where it can't be monitored.


That a boy...leave the seed of doubt out there. Classic fear mongering tactic when something substantial and creditable has been put right under their nose.



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 03:42 AM
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Originally posted by CranialSponge
Iran is cutting off their own nose to spite their face and allowing their arrogance to dictate their decisions by saying they're going to stop the transport of any and all oil in the Strait of Hormuz... But really people, what the hell do you expect an animal to do when you back it into a corner ?!

It is not Iran who are acting like animals.

Iran has every right, under the NPT to engage in the nuclear activities it is engaged in.

Every other country also has a right not to trade with Iran. However no country has a right to coerce other countries into not trading with Iran simply because Iran exercised its rights under a treaty it signed. Anyone who issues such threats is not human.

If the psychopathic animals of the US makes good on their threats to financially isolate Iran for Iran exercising its rights, Iranian response, making its territorial waters unavailable for transport (which effectively closes the Strait of Hormuz of all except fishing boats) can be considered only a mild response.
edit on 10-1-2012 by Observor because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 04:17 AM
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As much as I'm not looking forward to any confrontation with Iran but that article is balony! Panetta does'nt have a damn clue.

I personally think Iran has already built at least 2-3 nuclear bombs. I do not doubt they have at least one!



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 04:31 AM
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Iran needs an UNDERGROUND facility to enrich uranium to 20% because they want to use it at a Tehran lab...to treat cancer.

This is really funny.

So, in other words...they could NOT treat patients with cancer until now???Or better, outside the countries that have ''nuclear capability'' all other countries patients that have cancer actually die?

As for Panetta...the man is joke from now on.



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 05:00 AM
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Originally posted by Recollector
Iran needs an UNDERGROUND facility to enrich uranium to 20% because they want to use it at a Tehran lab...to treat cancer.

No, they need the facility to be underground to protect it from psychopaths. They need the facility to enrich uranium to 20% necessary for medical use/research.

So, in other words...they could NOT treat patients with cancer until now???Or better, outside the countries that have ''nuclear capability'' all other countries patients that have cancer actually die?

No, those without such facilities import it from those who have.



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