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Mitt Romney: I dont know what the Constitution says! Ask Ron Paul

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posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 04:36 PM
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You also forgot that they were sociopaths... psychopaths or w/e its called.

Reminds me of a few leaders we had/have now.
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posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by ugie1028
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux
 


You also forgot that they were sociopaths... psychopaths or w/e its called.

Reminds me of a few leaders we've had/have now.


I did not forget this, it is why I made the point, and certainly the one claiming it was a "stupid response" got that, which is the source of agitation.



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux

Originally posted by ugie1028
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux
 


You also forgot that they were sociopaths... psychopaths or w/e its called.

Reminds me of a few leaders we've had/have now.


I did not forget this, it is why I made the point, and certainly the one claiming it was a "stupid response" got that, which is the source of agitation.



What point did you make?

Seems to me you made my point - - - that people follow a charismatic leader.

The presidency is not one person - - it is a team. That team can't affect anything - - until the Leader gets followers and gets elected.

People are emotional. Most people want to FEEL something. They want to have some kind of connection.

The average voter doesn't care if who they are voting for is a Constitutionalist. Somebody on the team will be.

I personally do care. But - - this is about the reaction of an audience.



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 05:09 PM
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The average voter doesn't care if who they are voting for is a Constitutionalist. Somebody on the team will be.

I personally do care. But - - this is about the reaction of an audience.


I think most people get that you think you are above the average voter, but your own vitriolic replies undermines your self congratulatory belief.

Further, you are willfully ignoring the assertion - one rooted in fact - that both Romney and Paul took oaths of office to protect and defend the Constitution. Perhaps you imagine this means they standing heavily armed and vigilant over a piece of paper, and maybe in fairness to you if this is your thought, the language of "protect and defend the Constitution" is somewhat ambiguous for those above average literal minded voters. In reality, what is meant by "protect and defend the Constitution" is that the principles and rule of law established by that Constitution be protected and defended. In order to do this, to honor the oath of office they took, it is imperative they know what they are protecting and defending and not rely on some "team" of "Constitutionalists" to tell them what to do.



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 05:27 PM
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It seems that some think this is all a funny game. Most of these candidates are quite happy playing their roles, trampling any dignity the office once held, with nothing but contempt for the educated American.
Outkast Searcher, are you for real? Is their no insult against Ron Paul that you DON'T relish? You say the comment went over his head, but yet he "chuckled"...oh poor misguided Ron Paul, huh? It is getting old.
What is clear to me, is the GOP audience cares nothing for the constitution. But, it is also clear that the Democrats don't either, nor do some ATS members posting in this thread.
Our schools are failing if people think this is all a joke. The U.S. is rapidly becoming a joke, and it is NOT funny.



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
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The average voter doesn't care if who they are voting for is a Constitutionalist. Somebody on the team will be.

I personally do care. But - - this is about the reaction of an audience.


I think most people get that you think you are above the average voter, but your own vitriolic replies undermines your self congratulatory belief.

Further, you are willfully ignoring the assertion - one rooted in fact - that both Romney and Paul took oaths of office to protect and defend the Constitution. Perhaps you imagine this means they standing heavily armed and vigilant over a piece of paper, and maybe in fairness to you if this is your thought, the language of "protect and defend the Constitution" is somewhat ambiguous for those above average literal minded voters. In reality, what is meant by "protect and defend the Constitution" is that the principles and rule of law established by that Constitution be protected and defended. In order to do this, to honor the oath of office they took, it is imperative they know what they are protecting and defending and not rely on some "team" of "Constitutionalists" to tell them what to do.




You said that very well. Encore!! Someone got schooled....



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
I think most people get that you think you are above the average voter, but your own vitriolic replies undermines your self congratulatory belief.


Interesting.

Oh yeah! Its all about me and my brilliance


I intentionally "speak" with a very basic statement style. Presenting my viewpoint with simplicity.

You post everything like its a lesson in literature. Do you expect everyone to understand your posts or is it your need to impress?



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 05:47 PM
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You post everything like its a lesson in literature. Do you expect everyone to understand your posts or is it your need to impress?


I expect everyone to understand my posts, and why not? Even you seem to understand them, but keep bragging about talking down to others, your charisma will carry the day.



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by Wookiep
You said that very well. Encore!! Someone got schooled....


Heard the words . . .

It wasn't me

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posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by Wookiep
You said that very well. Encore!! Someone got schooled....


Heard the words . . .

It wasn't me.


It just goes to show; you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
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Oh, I agree that Mitt was stumped on how to answer it.

But I didn't see him as trying to pass it off as much as him getting a jab in at Ron Paul being a self proclaimed "constitutionalist".

People were laughing at Ron Paul...not with him.


I agree with you BTW.

I think it was a "Mitt" audience - - - and he felt it was an opportunity.



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by SurrealisticPillow
It seems that some think this is all a funny game. Most of these candidates are quite happy playing their roles, trampling any dignity the office once held, with nothing but contempt for the educated American.
Outkast Searcher, are you for real? Is their no insult against Ron Paul that you DON'T relish? You say the comment went over his head, but yet he "chuckled"...oh poor misguided Ron Paul, huh? It is getting old.
What is clear to me, is the GOP audience cares nothing for the constitution. But, it is also clear that the Democrats don't either, nor do some ATS members posting in this thread.
Our schools are failing if people think this is all a joke. The U.S. is rapidly becoming a joke, and it is NOT funny.


I just have to say, well said my friend.. The owner of the face book page Positively Republican had a video up today in the end he said we must fight for the constitution and to preserve freedom. This same guy attacks RP on his page constantly..

What is wrong with people? I agree with you, evidently the constitution means nothing to them for if it did they would support the guy fighting so boldly for it.

I will not say any names but 2 posters in this thread find our rights being taken away daily and the constitution funny. HAHA its all a big joke.


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posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 10:26 PM
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The GOP needs to listen to the Liberatarians and other 3rd Party organizations. They need to listen to the OWS, and the Tea Party. They need to listen to the Internet, and the Pop Culture. They need to tap into the Blue Dog Democrats and the disenfranchised lefties. There is only one candidate that can reach all of those groups, and still carry the Republican party as well. There is only one candidate that can beat Obama.
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Spot on! Your analysis is flawless. Unless the GOP does what you suggested, they will lose. The days of the "Country Club Republicans" need to be over.
Any thinking person needs to disregard parties, past thinking, and personalities, and understand how dire the situation in this country, and the world, is at this juncture in history. We may not get a second chance. Ron Paul embodies the fusion of all of those groups you cited, and no other candidate comes close. The two party system is completely broken, and we need someone like Ron Paul to take the best ideas from both parties, that simultaneously address the problems we have, in order to regain our country, our economy, our traditions, our Constitution, and our respect.

No candidate, including Ron Paul, is perfect, but he is the best chance we have. Romney and Obama are more alike than either party would ever admit, but if either one is elected, things will continue to get worse.



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 12:38 AM
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he just realize whoops i just put my own foot up my a$s.. oh sh*t did i really say that



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 12:56 AM
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If a presidential candidate does not understand the Constitution, they should be immediately denied office. It's sad that people can support these smooth talking banker puppets who don't give two s**** about the Constitution that they're going to take an oath to protect and defend. That's what our country has come to. :shk:



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 01:10 AM
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There was no alternative joke.

Plain and simple Mitt flunked the Constitution test and tried to play it off by deferring it to the KNOWN Constitutionalist on stage.



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 02:07 AM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by KonquestAbySS
 


Oh, I agree that Mitt was stumped on how to answer it.

But I didn't see him as trying to pass it off as much as him getting a jab in at Ron Paul being a self proclaimed "constitutionalist".

People were laughing at Ron Paul...not with him.



The irony here is that the public was laughing at the the only person that truly supports the constitution, and clapping for the guy will run the common man/woman into the ground.

what a bunch of sheep.



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 02:37 AM
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This only proves what I have been saying to my politically-inclined acquaintances for months now.

1. The individuals involved in powerful politics don't know what's in the Constitution.

2. They have been living and working against a completely separate set of rules and regulations other than what is in our founding document.

3. We The People are under the governorship of entirely extra-Constitutional form of powers since at least 1913.

4. The Constitution is dead due to 'death by 1000 cuts' and the only way to revive it is to return our government to its Constitutional boundaries.

5. Most importantly, Ron Paul is not our 'savior'. WE ARE.

P.S. Ron Paul in the off-White House would sure help though.



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 03:34 AM
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Yea cause everyone knows the silly constitution is just soooo last century.

It makes me sick that a "serious" GOP candidate would be taking jabs at someone because they know and respect the Constitution more than they do.

Idiots..

Deserve what they get.



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 05:13 AM
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"The Western society revolves around the media".. I don't know whose quote that is, but it explains some stupid behavior shown by segments of American population. A lot of people are confused and wondering how can the same people get fooled over and over again, but another quote puts that in perspective also, "you can't fool all people all the time". Now the newer generation is mostly catching up to the trickery, most of them see that Ron Paul is the only candidate who has been contestant on his speech and actions. Unlike other candidates who show clear signs of "corruption" written on their foreheads.

I'm glad that Americans are progressing, it took generations to get to this point, if Ron Paul is elected, the US will enter a newer and greater phase, but if most Americans are still being fooled, then I'm afraid their won't be another election after 2012.



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