Why do we have war?, page 2
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reply posted on 9-1-2012 @ 01:01 AM by 1littlewolf
Originally posted by Blaine91555
Originally posted by NoClue206
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War is natural. I say war is natural and not human nature because we just do it better then any other animal on earth. Animals kill each other for territory just like humans, we just do it on a larger scale. There isn't a time where man wasn't at war in known history.


True; Bonobos engage in war for territory, cannibalism and given a choice eat meat when available and prefer it to other foods. In fact they eat their enemy after killing them. We are quite normal as far as Great Apes go. In watching Bonobos we are clearly looking at our past.


Good point; and if what you say is true, judging by the behaviour of bonobos, it would seem getting laid was much easier in the past as well.....




I think the world would be a very different place if those who started wars were also forced to fight in them.


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reply posted on 9-1-2012 @ 01:10 AM by Ittabena
reply to post by Akragon





We have war because its profitable... yay for governments eh


That's one good reason. In fact most people are aware of Eisenhower's warning as he exited the White House. The Armaments Industry lobbies shamelessly, then when the Generals get their new toys they just have to play with them. Also there has to be a war so the Government can buy more arms, not to mention supplying the other side at the same time. Now I simplify here but consider that the Generals need the wars to justify their paychecks and careers.

Indeed, put yourself in their place dispassionately for a moment. If you had all the military training that it took to get to be a General, then you had the guns and planes and predator drones, etc., wouldn't you, from that perspective, want to use them?

Ever played Civilization the video game? You have built the armies and have whatever level of technology you are up to at that point in the game, but everyone is peaceful around you. Do you get itchy on the trigger? Do you begin the war because of what another nation did to an ally even though it was a valueless ally, and the affront to the ally was slight? Well, it is just a game so...

Absolute power corrupts, absolutely is an old adage but true. After twenty years of kicking around the halls of power on your way up I doubt they have had any seminars on how to care for the little people. That was the old days, the days of supposed innocence.

Money, power, control, all good reasons. But I think if you boil it down all the way you would find that they do it just because they can.

Finally, Thomas Jefferson warned us and answered your question long ago.

“There are rights which it is useless to surrender to the government and which governments have yet always been found to invade. These are the rights of thinking and publishing our thoughts by speaking or writing; the right of free commerce; the right of personal freedom. There are instruments for administering the government so peculiarly trustworthy that we should never leave the legislature at liberty to change them. The new Constitution has secured these in the executive and legislative department, but not in the judiciary. It should have established trials by the people themselves, that is to say, by jury. There are instruments so dangerous to the rights of the nation and which place them so totally at the mercy of their governors that those governors, whether legislative or executive, should be restrained from keeping such instruments on foot but in well-defined cases. Such an instrument is a standing army.” ~Letter to David Humphreys (1789)


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reply posted on 9-1-2012 @ 01:29 AM by Akragon
reply to post by Ittabena



The point being... all governments abuse their power...


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