6 Million Jews vs 30 Million Russians Killed During World War 2

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posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 05:53 PM
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Before and During WW-2 around 6 million Jews were killed in 12 years from 1933 to 1945...

The figure of six million was originally given by SS-Obersturmbannfuehrer Hoettl in evidence to the Nuremberg Tribunal in 1946.Hoettl had worked closely with Eichmann and was well placed and well aware to give an informed estimate...

During WW-2 around 30 million Russians were killed in 4 years between the summer of 1941 and spring 1945...

There were around 12 million Russian soldiers killed on the Eastern Front.Around 7 million of them were killed in battle and over 5 million of them were taken prisoner and most of those prisoners were sent to the death camps to be experimented upon,worked,starved and gassed to death...

There were around 18 million Russian civilians murdered because of who they were on the Eastern Front during Nazi Germanys invasion of Russia,Operation Barbarossa.Russian civilian men,women and children were just as ruthlessly as the Jews,dehumanized,tracked down and annihilated...

But ever since then,right up till the present day,all we ever hear about and all we ever read about is the Jewish Holocaust,never about the Russian Holocaust...

What about them? Who speaks out for them? Where is the Russian Holocaust Museum?

Was the purposefully planned and carried out murders of 18 million Russian civilians ever even declared a Holocaust? It should have been,but thanks mostly to the Cold War and its on going demonization of the Russians it was not and heres another reason why it was not...

The squeaky wheel gets the oil...
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posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 05:59 PM
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You are right, there have been so many genocides throughout history that nobody ever recognizes. I mean the Kurds and Armenians fall under the same category as well. I am also curious how many Jewish people that were killed in Europe were Russian in ethnicity. It is sad.



posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:01 PM
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Wow what an ugly period of history , those numbers give me goosebumps

what a sick world .


Your right what about the russians. Who is there voice . Nobody ,

It is sad the russians are hardly remembered , but the jews have there anti-semtism card that they cal flash like a bodily function .


r.i.p russians and jews. and all others who died on silly wars.



posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:04 PM
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And there you go making yet another thread about Jews.

Ive tried making threads about genocides in Sudan, Rwanda, Africa, Tibet, but they dont go anywhere. All people seem to care about is threads about jews/zionists.



posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:06 PM
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I'd like to see some links regarding these numbers.



posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:07 PM
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61 million+ world-wide dead during the time period...
An immeasurable cost for a war that was meant to end all wars.


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posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:07 PM
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This thread title is so misleading.

There is no versus at all.

Where exactly is the competition?

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On a serious note...does more murder make less murder less significant?

Separation of humanity is the fault of humanity.



posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:08 PM
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That was a bit narky wasnt it?

Anyway... good post i did not know about any of this.

It really makes you wonder about the Jews.....



posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:08 PM
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What about the An Lushan Rebellion? 36,000,000 people killed. Or the Mongol Conquests where up to 60 million were killed? Sadly, the holocaust gets more attention because the victims were Jews. People consider them "superior". (I know this is not true for all).



posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Afterthought
I'd like to see some links regarding these numbers.





posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:10 PM
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Hi...I just went through the list of all the threads i've made and out of around 100 there is 1 concerning genocide in general.This one is about a direct comparison between the number of jews killed and the number of russians killed in ww2 and the way history looks at them and treats them very differently...

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posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
And there you go making yet another thread about Jews.

Ive tried making threads about genocides in Sudan, Rwanda, Africa, Tibet, but they dont go anywhere. All people seem to care about is threads about jews/zionists.


I´d say this one is more about the Russians than jews though, and how do you know it will go anywhere? =)

Still, the Russians and Jews where not the only ones to die in that war, yet they where the only ones to gain anything substantial (Israel)

I get your point though. There is definitely an agenda here, it´s like we are brainwashed into caring more about certain people than others...



posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:12 PM
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A Genocide is a Genocide
War is a War
and a Holocaust is a Holocaust

The Holocaust was a perversion of a Genocide,
for this please visit the History Books!



posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:13 PM
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Thank you.
I really dislike it when people do threads and throw numbers around without linking to the information they've gotten them from.
Again, much appreciated.



posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:14 PM
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Of the estimated 70 million deaths attributed to World War II, over 30 million,many of them civilians,died on the Eastern Front....The Eastern Front WW-2 > en.wikipedia.org...(World_War_II)

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posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:19 PM
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Recent historical scholarship has shed new insight into the topic of Second World War casualties. Research in Russia since the collapse of the Soviet Union has caused a revision of estimates of Soviet war dead.Estimated USSR losses within postwar borders now stand at 26.6 million...en.wikipedia.org...

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posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
And there you go making yet another thread about Jews.

Ive tried making threads about genocides in Sudan, Rwanda, Africa, Tibet, but they dont go anywhere. All people seem to care about is threads about jews/zionists.

Did blocula make another thread about Jews? Can you find it?

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posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:20 PM
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The official number of Jews that died in WW2 in the camps was never 6 million,but was instead 4 million(6 million has always been a religious number for the Jews and they even tried to make up the 6 million lie in WW1).This number soon dropped when the Russians(who came up with the Holocaust idea)releasd the real number and it was 1.5 million.This number is more or less the same number of Jews that the Nazis documented as dying of starvation and/or disease.

There were even more Polish people who died in these camps then there were Jews but you will never here about them or those poor Russians who died at the hands of the Jews(communists)during WW2 due to the fact that the Jews run the media.

Cue the whole ''oh,you are an anti-semite'' cr*p.
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posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:21 PM
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hasnt the number 6 million been offially debunked even by the jews themself?


werent there approx. only living 12 million jews on the earth at that time..

sounds fishy


edit: whenever i stumble across WWII threads i really feel like not being on ATS at all...
your old history books really got`cha....

time to reevaluate some stuff i tell ya!

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edit edit: i live 2 blocks away from were they (supposedly)settled "the jew question"...at least this is what history books gonna tell you...the "wannsee conference" ....well...nothing got settled there and its all bull#....they even have to admit that themself..but only if you ask...the facade is still intact..and will be for some more time
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posted on Jan, 8 2012 @ 06:24 PM
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The Nazi crimes against Soviet Prisoners of War relate to the deliberately genocidal policies taken towards the captured soldiers of the Soviet Union by Nazi Germany. These efforts resulted in some 3.3 to 3.5 million deaths, about 60% of all Soviet POWs > en.wikipedia.org...

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