US orders expulsion of Venezuelan consul

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger

intelligence you are obviously lacking

Pot... meet kettle

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
pun intended

no pun intended

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
HELLLOOOO!!!!!!!

Hello?

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
WMD'S ?

If you and the other I hate the Us at all costs regardless would do some damn homework you will see that WMD's in reagrds to Iraq did not just included completed weapons. It also included materials / precursors used in the creation of those weapons. For those who love wikileaks they sure like to forget it, especially when wikileaks has laeked the info that shows Iraq did in fact have those items. They even had checmical weapons, which are still being found.

Before you or anyone else goes off on the it was small amounts deflection, why dont you puruse the dozen plus UN resolutions on Iraq and please point out to the rest of us where it says its ok for Iraq to have tiny amounts of the banned items.

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
Iran is responsible for 911?

A Federal Court ruling in a civil action, which has nothing to do what so ever with the US government.

Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
WTF!!???
HELLLOOOO!!!!!!!

edit on 8-1-2012 by DerepentLEstranger because: (no reason given)

My thoughts exactly for you and some tohers who are just to lazy to bother doing any research at all before opening your mouth and allowing ignorant to fall out.


There are close ties between Iran and Venezuela. We know this because Venezuela is willing to host / joint base Iranian units. Of course there is nothing wrong with that setup, as both nations are sovereign, but if they werent close, it most likely would not happen.

Joint military usually comes with joint intelligence as well as coordinated efforts, which will include espionage activities. To dismiss the information out of hand begs the question -
Are you a member of Iranian, Venezuelan or American Intelligenece agencies with first hand knowledge of the incident?

If not then how do you know what occured? Or does that just go along with the I hate America position you hold?

Its not a secret our government doesnt care for government of Iran or Venezuela. Its not a secret, although you and others ignore it, that Iran and Venezuela's government dont care for the US government.

Logic dictates they will spy on us and we will spy on them, which will include whgats being described in the article. Its not out of the realm of possability that this occured, or that Iran / Venezuela could be involved in it.

But by all means please continue your ignorance laden diatribe against the US. With the way Iran is dragging the world into war, some humor is a welcome relief.

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In related news:

Iran's Leader Arrives In Venezuela To Meet Chavez
By PATRACIA RONDON ESPIN, Associated Press – 1 hour ago

Iran's leader arrives in Venezuela to meet Chavez
By PATRACIA RONDON ESPIN, Associated Press – 1 hour ago
CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad began a four-nation Latin American tour Sunday aiming to show off relationships with allies as tensions grow over Iran's nuclear program.
It is the Iranian leader's fifth visit to Venezuela. He will also travel to Nicaragua, Cuba and Ecuador.
Tensions have been rising in the Mideast as Iran has warned it could retaliate against newly tightened U.S. sanctions by blocking shipping lanes out of the Persian Gulf. A large share of the world's oil tanker traffic passes through the Strait of Hormuz.
Ahmadinejad smiled and waved but made no comments as he stepped off a plane Sunday evening at Simon Bolivar International Airport near Caracas. He was greeted by Vice President Elias Jaua and other Venezuelan officials.

Originally posted by Shark_Feeder

The US is trying to connect Venezula to Iran...a new axis of evil anyone? Our current administration does not seem too keen at "opening dialogues".

It would seem the US is further isolating itself from the world lately.

Venezuela has some deals with China at the moment aswell as talks with Iran's president, and being that Iran is a trade partner of China also... is the US creating an enemy closer to home?

At a time when you are seen by the world to be provoking a nations peaceful energy program... you want to have allies, not enemies. I'd call this a wrong turn for the US, but a good on behalf of the US towards everyone else.

One can only hope they also expel members of nations that would be focused on making a desicion, whether the UN/NATO could invade Iran. It could entirely change the outcome of this mess for the greater good.

Originally posted by Mikehawk
They hate Chavez and will do anything to try and make him look bad, it's rather pathetic really.

Deuce.

Oh wow. There are a million things that both sides are doing that you don't know about. But for you to insinuate this is just to make the other side look bad (and there is no truth to it)...



I would bet my life on the fact that the US could release a lot more information about either Iran or Venezuela being involved in something against the West. Nobody is innocent in this world.

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Why do people keep blaming the US for things. What IF these things are actually true? You just refuse to accept it. A lot of these things have already been played out in court with captured Terrorist testimonies and captured Iranian spies , self admitted. A lot of the things that are being connected to Iran has already been proven (Accepted) in the court of law.

Originally posted by Vitchilo

The State Department had said last month it was looking into "very disturbing" allegations that Noguera was a participant in an alleged Iranian plot to launch cyber-attacks on sensitive US national security facilitie

This is such a joke.

They are doing this for an ``alleged`` plot... while China has been DOING thousands of cyber attacks on every department in the US for years and nothing is done.

Double standards we can believe in!

Do you notice that one case you quote is about a diplomat (person) and the other about a nation (country). While the actions of both are tied into a country, how a person is handled and how a nation is handled is two separate things.

Unless you have record of a Chinese diplomat being caught for the same thing?

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There is no intelligence agency at work. This comes via the State Department, the masters of PR and propoganda.

The State Department is briefed by intelligence agencies, believe it or not.

the US just said it would need to slim its military and would not be able to fight a 2 front war.

if they fabricated the conditions necessary for war with Iran AND Venezuela at the same time, then the money would instantly allocate towards the military and/or to re-elect Obama or the Republican candidate who would be willing to wage the most destructive war like Bush/Cheney. Obama has proven he is willing to war with whomever, so he will most likely be re-elected while the Republicans are merely drawing in money and biding time.

reply to post by Clisen33


Clisen33, very well said. Every piece of news coming out of the U.S. is tagged as false flag, conspiracy or propaganda. If the news comes from Iran, China or anywhere else where the media is censored besides the U.S., its neither of those things.

Originally posted by Ensign
reply to post by Shark_Feeder

 

The U.S does have top notch intelligence.. there must be more to that story

Likely No Such Agency (NSA)has a lot of intercepts that we will not hear about for many years.
(this is so the Venezuela and Iran don't know how we got the information and go to a different system)

And its very likely both Venezuela and Iran know why the consul was expelled but the may never know how much we got of there secrets

Ahmadinejad is in Venezuela, and Hugo Chavez joked about having a "big atomic bomb" under the lawn of the presidential palace.

news.yahoo.com...

The guys have a good sense of humour...

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Please, a bag of hammers has way more intelligence, why you picking on the poor hammer?