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Debunk this: New UFO Video taken at night over Campinas, Brazil.

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posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
reply to post by CountDrac
 





NO, Lighted balloons tethered together have not been shown to behave the same way as the objects. So unless you have a better explanation this has not been debunked...



WRONG depending on the wind factor they in fact do. It sounds like you have your mind made up and have decided that these lanterns are of unknown origins "aliens" or what have you. This is the problem in the UFO fringe, critical thinking is key to truth seeking -- not blind faith. blind faith enables more disinformation.



I tell ya what it is..

CHINESE LANTERNS




chinese lanterns being lit and cast away

Popular method among UFO hoaxers and cultists





yes they come in different colors. as you can see the wind is blowing them around and the flames flickering. and yes even in brazil they can and will be used. just had an event here recently in the midwest using them. was really cool at first i was like "omg is that what i think it is" until i got closer and realized a local bar was setting off chinese lanterns for octoberfest lol. first time seeing them in person after countless ufo videos of chinese lanterns on youtube still could have fooled me at first.

Another misidentified


I think people should be educated enough to know better by now on ATS

If they are just lights that flicker then fade away then that is kind of a give away. If it is an object that is not anything like a conventional vehicle that flies in to the picture and zooms off at super speeds then you might have something. these "lights in the sky" videos have jumped the shark. everyone with a camera phone and a youtube account has "UFO footage" these days.


Objects identified

DEBUNKED



your welcome OP

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they look like led blinking lights hanging below balloons and then when they start doing formations they look like cgi which would be very easy to do with a black background.




posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by 11118
Extraterrestrials are there. I've seen space craft that are unidentifiable in comparison to known human technology. I've seen them with my own eyes, no tricks, pure intelligent maneuvering and movement.


All you can do is hold those experiences that inform us of the mystery and beauty of the Universe close to your heart - let others find their answers and experience their experiences.


I've seen them too and agree there is something interesting about the way they move. I also agree the disclosure will really come through individual experiences. It's the only way because we've been lied to by so many and for so long.



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 09:29 PM
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Sorry, but had to laugh when some are saying this is impressive footage - BLINKING LIGHTS WOW.

How does one debunk blinking lights?
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posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 09:33 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
reply to post by greeneyedleo
 


Skydivers? For what purpose?
Hoping someone will see this---- and grab their camera-----then upload it on YouTube----- so they (the skydivers) can have their 15-minutes of anonymous fame? Are you serious? It makes no sense.

Man oh man. I mean c'mon. Coming up with some of these explanations is scary than the actual implication of these being genuine alien vessels.



People out in the world would absolutely do this in hopes that somebody is videotaping. Why you ask? Because there are people like you and the others that say this could only be a UFO and nothing else. I do believe in life outside of this planet, but this video isn't proving that they are here.(not saying that they haven't before).
My guess is a hillside/mountainside new year's celebration maybe. Lights can run down a hill and right back up and even side to side. Just my 2 cents.



posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by MidnightTide
Sorry, but had to laugh when some are saying this is impressive footage - BLINKING LIGHTS WOW.

How does one debunk blinking lights?
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I thought the same thing, blinking lights are all too common but solid moving at excessive speed is something to ponder.


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posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 09:47 PM
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posted on Jan, 9 2012 @ 10:15 PM
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they look like led blinking lights hanging below balloons and then when they start doing formations they look like cgi which would be very easy to do with a black background.


It very well could be Balloons and CGI and i might be wrong. Look like the CL's i seen oh well. Balloons it is


Lanterns, Balloons, CGI OH MY!


I still think it is CL's though, debunked again



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posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 12:26 AM
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posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 12:27 AM
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Originally posted by derpif
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Looks great, could it be fireworks?


Ha! Have you ever seen fireworks? I don't remember New Years having anything flying around like that over New York City or Tokyo.

Let's see...my logical brain says:
...it looks to me that perhaps chinese lanterns are caught in a convection current. The hills around Morungaba would be plenty enough to create or assist in the creation of oscillating convection currents.

and my quixotic brain says:
...while it'd be nice if there was a mystical definition or translations of the word 'Morungaba', there just isn't a connection between these floating lights and the cannibalistic ritual traditions of the Tupi people who inhabited the region until the early 1500's, so unfortunately I have to revert to my logical brain.

Final answer: balloons or lanterns in an oscillating convection current.
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posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by tallcool1
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We are such a tiny little speck in an infinite universe. We shouldn't be so arrogant to assume that they must be visiting us. Even if we assume that some alien civilizations have somehow developed faster than light travel, the chance that they could find us is infinitesimally small. It would be like trying to find the one grain of grey sand on a white sanded beach.


You know, I would like to take your logic and apply it to the entire universe for a second. So what your saying is, our planet is too far away and too boring for any advanced life to be here. So that must also mean no other planet in the entire universe has ever been in contact with any other race in 14 billion years.

Think about it...



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 12:48 AM
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Originally posted by Phage
Here's something of interest.


Two problems I see with this comparison.
1. the balloons are gone and out of sight after one minute from launch while the OP's clip is 4x the length of time without a launch.
2. They don't look anything like the OP's clip



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 12:55 AM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
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Skydivers? For what purpose?
Hoping someone will see this---- and grab their camera-----then upload it on YouTube----- so they (the skydivers) can have their 15-minutes of anonymous fame? Are you serious? It makes no sense.

Man oh man. I mean c'mon. Coming up with some of these explanations is scary than the actual implication of these being genuine alien vessels.



As much as I dislike Leo's mundane answers regarding ufo's, I also have a problem with ridicule that tries to come off as an argument. Yes, night jumpers wear lights. Arguing like that never helps.



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posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 05:13 AM
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You wouldn't believe it, but I have indeed seen fireworks.
I don't claim to have seen everything there is though.
I consider it possible that even fireworks undergo progression.
I did also agree that these are most likely not pyrotechnics.

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posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 05:40 AM
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I give much credibility into the first Video,
imo they look very kosher!

Star and Flag, thank You



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 05:53 AM
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Originally posted by FlySolo

Originally posted by Phage
Here's something of interest.


Two problems I see with this comparison.
1. the balloons are gone and out of sight after one minute from launch while the OP's clip is 4x the length of time without a launch.
2. They don't look anything like the OP's clip
Did you ever consider the possibility that lighted balloons can be filled with air and dropped out of a hot air balloon, instead of filled with helium and launched from the ground?

Once you consider that, does it really look that much different?



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 06:44 AM
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It's a primitive LED kite, a crude 3rd world version of this:




posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by FlySolo in reply to greeneyedleo

I guess you don't know how to speak Spanish. While you are quick to dismiss with toys, LED lights etc, etc, you jump onto the first page with your humble opinion without considering to wait for a translation. I'll wager a bet someone will in a couple of pages. This tells me you are nothing but a horn tooting mod shill regarding ALL ufo topics.

Yes, it's me again...



Perhaps you didnt see, but n the page prior to your post, translation was done in this post:
www.abovetopsecret.com...


Originally posted by free_spirit
There is a clue by the videographer Javier at second 0:16 he said in spanish:
Javier - “De los cuetes tan chidos que estan lanzando”
Translation: “ From the awesome fireworks they are releasing”
Check carefully the comment by Javier answering to his friend.




posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by FlySolo

Originally posted by tallcool1
reply to post by CountDrac
 

We are such a tiny little speck in an infinite universe. We shouldn't be so arrogant to assume that they must be visiting us. Even if we assume that some alien civilizations have somehow developed faster than light travel, the chance that they could find us is infinitesimally small. It would be like trying to find the one grain of grey sand on a white sanded beach.


You know, I would like to take your logic and apply it to the entire universe for a second. So what your saying is, our planet is too far away and too boring for any advanced life to be here. So that must also mean no other planet in the entire universe has ever been in contact with any other race in 14 billion years.

Think about it...


if people would consider the possibility that "they" are the ones who actually put us here then it all makes perfectly rational sense and explains all the mysteries around the globe that indicate advanced civilizations were here before. It's all staring us right in the face and so many people won't open their eyes.



posted on Jan, 10 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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"lighted balloons can be filled with air and dropped out of a hot air balloon"? give me a break, thats all you got...
Thinking these are LED balloons or balloons dropped of a hot air balloon is just absurd and ignorant.

Come on guys is there anyone else that can give us a rational explanation besides absurd LED balloons and skydivers, which both don’t look anything like the video…

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