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"Because of increasing union membership, Germany has a 6% unemployment rate
"Taxes are also a big reason why Germany has a better overall economy. Corporations and the wealthy are taxed at a higher rate in Germany than in the US. This taxation is a big reason why the German government has low deficits, and the fact that regulation is tighter. Our deficit is high because corporations, aided by their Republican pawns, have loopholes that allow them to pay zero taxes. Get rid of the loopholes and deductions, and couple that with raising the tax rate and tightening regulations and our deficit will start melting away".
Because of increasing union membership, Germany has a 6% unemployment rate which is low compared to other European countries and the United States. Americans certainly wish the unemployment rate were 6%.
reply to post by ColCurious
This statement from your source is not true or only partially correct. Unions and worker representatives are naturally and always strong in Germany's social market economy and thus secure good working conditions and wages... but they do this in a close partnership with the employer associations and the state, as it is enshrined in the institutionalized settlement of conflicts, outlined in the collective labor law. Its the balance and reasoning between these parties that does the trick here.
Originally posted by openminded2011
reply to post by 46ACE
I can use your same logic on the assumption that unions are bad, so whats your point?
Here is a question for you. Who is going to contribute to the economy more:
1. Someone who makes 8 dollars an hour and lives paycheck to paycheck
2. A union member who makes a living wage, and has a level of job security where they feel safe to spend money on a home, car or a stereo system, by paying cash and not incurring debt?
3. A CEO who spends money on luxury items, and banks the rest.
edit on 8-1-2012 by openminded2011 because: (no reason given)
My"point" is your article is a"convenient headline" with little substance behind it. You ever been a union member? Hey I've had a union card forced on me; paid my dues; and watched the national union reps whisked off directly from the local airport to the company owners' northwoods cabin for a weekend of "guided" fishing, wining and dining before the week of "contract "negotiation".
Originally posted by openminded2011
So maybe we should use the same model? Sounds good to me.
Originally posted by ColCurious
Originally posted by openminded2011
So maybe we should use the same model? Sounds good to me.
No you can't... because this would be communism and communism doesn't work!
Also, our Unions are a bit different from yours so you would have to reform them first.
However, your article strikes me as a bit biased, as 46ACE already pointed out.
Originally posted by ColCurious
No you can't... because this would be communism and communism doesn't work!
Originally posted by openminded2011
reply to post by 46ACE
Last time I looked, we were still free to have an opinion.
Originally posted by openminded2011
reply to post by 46ACE
Whatever, but here is something that is not "dreamy fantasy". 30 years of conservative politics have destroyed unions and the middle class. If you think tax cuts for the rich and more of the same are going to fix the problem its you that is living in a dreamworld.
Originally posted by openminded2011
Interesting to note that the decline of unions in the US closely coincides with the decline of the middle class.
www.articlesbase.com...
Whereas the return of unions in Germany is having the opposite effect.
www.addictinginfo.org...edit on 8-1-2012 by openminded2011 because: (no reason given)