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Topic started on 8-1-2012 @ 08:26 AM by bjarneorn
Well, I was watching a chinese channel the other day, called BTV. On this channel, they were going over the history of China, when foreigners are concerned. In short, their version of history was of course a little different then what we are used to, but still has all the same key elements.

In their version, the british and french invasion in the 1800, were because of some 33 people dying, not because of a gaint wave of Chinese murdering foreigners. The french and british invaders, then raided China, and stole invaluable properties from the Palace in Beijing. When seeing their display of it, the raid of Bagdad came to mind.

But more interesting, was their tale about WWII. I'll skip over it, and go right back to what they said. They said, that prior to WWII, The US of A, provided japan with the precise same weapons, that the japanese used to bomb China. For proof, they took some bomber aircraft with twin tail, to show that the japense one and the american were basically the same. I looked further, and came to the same conclusion ... and further, I saw the Lancester, the Mitchell and Mitsubitchi G3M ... are virtually the same aircraft.

Going further down this road, I also noticed on Chinese news ... that the Chinese version of "SWAT" are actually wearing the EXACT same cloathing, as their US counterparts. They're even wearing the same helmet.

It appears to me, that the PTB, are actually selling arms to different factions of the world, and inciting war and conflict. That all the world wars and wars in general today, are created by the same interrest group.

The reason I say that, is that I understand that people would want to "copy" some really good stuff from the oponent. But the twin aircrafts are NOT, a part of that scenario ... nobody who "knows" anything about them, would actually copy these. Unless they are "buying" from someone who is "selling", either an "idea" or ready made product.


reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 09:45 AM by brokedown
To expand on your thread concerning the “double dealing” the US engages in surrounding the fueling of the Global War machine I would submit that this is how the US corporations conduct business, with the blessing of the US Government.

Japan’s story is not extraordinary, the US had a very similar relationship with Germany prior to, and after, WWII as well.
The US viewed Adolph Hitler and the Nazi Party as method to reign in Stalin and the Soviet Union prior to WWII. Prior to WWII Stalin and the Soviet Union was seen as the greatest threat to Western Europe, this is when the “Cold War” actually began. Stalin had already began the Soviet Expansion, and had already murdered more than 6 million in the process.

Hitler and the Nazis were being financed by the Ford Foundation and the Carnegie Foundation and other groups including Brown Brothers & Harriman, with Prescott Bush as the director of BBH. US corporations like E.I. DuPont built gun powder factories in Germany to supply the Nazi war machine. IBM also was heavily involved, but these weren’t the only US Corporations that saw profits in helping the Nazi war machine.

Now, lets us fast forward to the present day, The US Military Industrial Complex is still heavily involved in supplying both side of a conflict. Iraq, Afghanistan both were supplied by the US prior to our conflict today. Pakistan is a huge importer of US weapons. India, Turkey, most of Africa are also large purchasers as well.

First the US supplies the weapons then the US find reason for that country to use the weapons, it’s not profitable if the weapons just rust away in a warehouse, because after the conflict the US gets to sell more weapons to the same country. I.E. Germany and Japan.



reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 09:58 AM by nh_ee
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it goes even beyond China and WWII....simply look at the History of Europe and the Rothschilds who in essence via the Illuminati movement replaced the Financiers and Financial controllers of the past, the Kingdoms of the world called Monarchies with a Bank Based system or Oligarchy.

The Rothschilds began this takeover and have long since funded both sides of most of our major wars beginning with the French revolution where via the Illuminati movement they funded the revolutionaries and generally provide more money to the side that they intend to become victorious....the French Monarchy was subsequently thrown out and replaced with .....a Rothschild controlled Central Bank and one of Rothschild's Sons ....AND a so called democratic system.

But the Banks still have the final word...simply because they control the Money.

It's really no different today the same system is in place The Fed lends to Government allowing it to spend more than it takes in in tax revenues causing massive deficits.

But as we saw most recently with Libya and before that Iraq, the spoils of the wars go back to the Banks in the form of Oil revenues via their major Oil concerns namely British Petroleum aka BP.

Remember when the Iraqis were seeking their Nation's rebuilding fund....supposedly safe and sound in our Federal Reserve Bank (which is as Federal as Federal Express in actuality) the money, all 8 Billion of it was no where to be found.

What were the Iraqis to do about it ? Go to war ?



But that in a nutshell is the system of wars today.....the spoils of war are rewarded to the financial backers...in the days of old it was the Kings and their Kingdom ....and today it's the world's Biggest Banks that benefit.

And exactly as to why we are so focused upon war in the Middle East....much to benefit from financially and guarded by relatively weak militaries.....as is the case with Syria and Iran.

Peace


reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 12:52 PM by nh_ee
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Also look at the land that Israel now occupies and how it was acquired via the treaty of Balfour....

In essence the Egyptians were allied with the Germans in WWI and due to their loss of the war were unable to repay their war loans to the Rothschilds and in exchange for the defaulting of the loans the Rothschild Banksters had created an agreement with the British that allowed them take the land that we now know as Israel in exchange.

This Absolutely is the Hegelian Dialectic as well as .....the hallmark of the Illuminati.....Problem, Reaction ....Solution !

It's called Usary for a reason....it uses people and enslaves them with debt and servitude.....

The same as we all are....and why even those receiving unemployment are still required to pay income taxes on the wages received.....wages that we have all paid for in Taxes !


Peace


reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 03:22 PM by seraphnb
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Well, I always say that an idea cannot be bought or sold (or copyrighted, for that matter), but I agree with you. There is some point where push comes to shove; where the conspiracy theories become conspiracy facts. This is one of those.

I do believe that the same group of people has engineered every war. Look at WWII: in 1933, a National Socialist dictator rose to the highest position in Germany. In 1933, an International (Regular) Socialist rose to the highest position in the United States. Both of these men implemented the ideas of concentration camps during their extensive reigns, before both died in the year 1945.

Conspiracy much?
Seraph


reply posted on 9-1-2012 @ 01:13 PM by Cassius666
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No it has not been going on for thousands of years. Try 300 years or so.


reply posted on 9-1-2012 @ 01:47 PM by boncho
Originally posted by Cassius666
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No it has not been going on for thousands of years. Try 300 years or so.


Unless Ancient Greece as around 300 years ago I think you're wrong.

Light Reading.

If you dig deep enough, you find Greeks who funded wars and supplied arms, foodstocks and materials to both sides. Some reason you think this is something new?
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