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reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 08:25 AM by ImmortalThought
reply to post by ElOmen



Thats funny you bring that up because I was thinking last night how would be bring about 50,000 people together at once fighting for one cause and then my television told me the attendance of the football game and the light bulb came on above my head.

Its sad we can get 50,00+ people to attend sporting events on a weekly basis and pay too much for a ticket and can't find 1,000 to take some time out of there day to create a movement for an actual cause outside of entertainment.



reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 01:36 PM by ImmortalThought
reply to post by charles1952



Would you rather have Ron Paul who can't get a bill past congress because they don't agree what is right for the majority of americans and non americans OR a president that is going to continue to easily pass bills like NDAA?

I would guess his high number of votes missed is due to a combination of things: a) the length of time he has been in congress compared to the mostly "young" congressmen and women b) he did not agree with majority and knew beforehand the outcome of the bill with or without his vote and c) some unknown factor. Paul is by far the wiset and most logical canidate, what he has or has not done I'm sure has good reason.

hope this helps


reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 02:01 PM by charles1952
reply to post by ImmortalThought


Dear ImmortalThought,

Thank you very much, it does help.

Although your answer leaves me a little discouraged, I might have misunderstood. Is our choice really between 1) Ron Paul who can't get a bill past congress, or
2) a president that is going to continue to easily pass bills like NDAA?
Neither one of those sounds very good.

Changes have to be made. Does Paul have to be able to work with Congress, or will they stop him. Sometimes I think electing Paul will make people feel good for awhile, then make them feel really lousy when he can't get the changes through that he wants.

Sorry, to be such a rain cloud, but I see a lot of ways for the election to go bad and not many for a good result.

But, thanks again for your response, it did help.

With respect,
Charles1952


reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 03:35 PM by ImmortalThought
reply to post by charles1952



It has always been my perspective that we will need more then Ron Paul to make a change.

History is never made by ONE person, its made by the masses that is clear.

George Washington by himself would have been shot and killed in Valley Forge if it wasn't for others.
Martin Luther King Jr. would have been hung if it wasn't for the 999,999 others that marched on Washington.
Even Jesus Christ (whever real or not) had 12 disciples.

But, you surround these moral leaders with moral followers (leaders in their own right) and the movement can become successful. Our future depends on all of us, until then we can't make great change.

My vote for Paul is because he is the only person worth wasting the time. He at least gives the people a chance to to change this system. We can't depend on products of the system that benefit from this system to change the system.

Ron Paul is a torch bearer, if the old man can do, then the youth can certaintly take responsibilty of their lives and the change for humanity. We can no longer isolate ourselves
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