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reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 04:50 AM by D0MiNAT0R 1OOO

reply to post by David_Reale

No Problem.
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reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 04:58 AM by muzzleflash

Originally posted by Kovenov
reply to post by David_Reale

I recall learning about a very similar case on/about 2002 while I was living in Heidelberg, Germany. As then I'm not certain what to think or feel about such news as it is a matter for Germans to decide.

This is a very tricky issue actually.

I mean is it a "German internal issue" to decide if they want to enslave people who refused to support the National Socialist regime of the 30's and 40's? Or is it an international human rights issue?

And although this is different, the basic gist of the issue is the same, it revolves around slavery and utilizing the individual's fear of punishment to force them into committing objectionable acts (slavery).

Do Germans have any right to comment on US Politics? Yes? Why? --- Because US policy effects Germans directly as we have many treaties, organizations, military bases, etc, operating within German territory.

Well does German policy effect me here in the US? Yes, because one person enslaved anywhere is my responsibility to expose and fight against, as human beings and freedom is my arena.

We do not have a right to use force against Germany over silly politics when they make no direct threat to their neighbors, but we do indeed have a right to speak our minds on the Internet and stand up against such policies. If Germany doesn't like this, they can cut off their Internet connections to the rest of the world can't they?

They won't cut off the Net though because that would ruin their economy. So they are going to have to face our opinions as a result of the choice between international censorship and international free speech.

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reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 05:03 AM by D0MiNAT0R 1OOO

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First..,Yes we have a Constitution its called "Grundgesetz"
More here from Wikipedia:
The Judiciary of Germany is based on the concept of the Rechtsstaat, in which the exercise of governmental power is constrained by law. Federal law delineates the structure of the judiciary, but the administration of most courts is regulated by the states of Germany (Länder) which are responsible for the lower levels of the court system; the highest appellate courts alone operate at the federal level. This federal-state division of labour allows the federation to ensure that laws are enforced equally throughout the country, whereas the central role of the states in administering the courts safeguards the independence of the judicial system from the federal government.

The German legal system is a civil law based on a comprehensive compendium of statutes, as compared to the common law systems. Germany uses an inquisitorial system where the judges are actively involved in investigating the facts of the case, as compared to an adversarial system where the role of the judge is primarily that of an impartial referee between the prosecutor and the defendant.

Source

German Constitution

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reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 05:03 AM by fatpastyhead

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by David_Reale
Then they make this kind of, "Tough but fair" bull# decisions.

It's not fair at all though.

These women have two choices under a type of system like this:

Get down on your knees and 'service the clients',
or they will force you to your knees through poverty.

Either way you will be denigrated and used like an object.

None of this is fair at all.
It's actually quite evil and marvelously brilliant.

I 100% agree.

That women is someones daughter and possibly someones mother. I just don't need to go on about how wrong this is.

reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 05:03 AM by fatnav50

Either way she gets screwed

reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 05:08 AM by muzzleflash

Originally posted by D0MiNAT0R 1OOO

On the 01.01.2009 a new law became effective, since then they cannot sanction you anymore if you don't sign that agreement-paper.

Sounds a lot like everywhere else just about.

I would be willing to wager on the bet that the administrative workers are equally as clueless there as they are everywhere else, and that they will actually still try to coax people into signing that document.

In many locations they even use ridicule, threats, and outright lies to get people to sign documents like this.

They will even lie and say you have to sign it. They do this everywhere with this type of 'contract' issue. That's one of the primary mechanisms governments use to enslave their populace and turn them into slaves on the block ready for sale.

"You have to sign this",
99% of people give up and submit at this point.
The 1% reply "Or else what?".

How many people are legal experts and can outwit these people every step of the way?

There should not even be a legal contract to begin with, much less the rarely used clause that you don't even have to sign it in the first place.
No one would ever sign it if they knew how it's only purpose is to chain you into limiting your possibilities.

This works with virtually every document any government asks you to sign.

reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 05:12 AM by Manhater

Well heck, we're basically prostitutes already working for a paycheck.

Talk about low blow man.

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reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 05:15 AM by muzzleflash

I would ask that mods please just move this to an applicable forum such as the politics topics rather than closing the thread.

This is proving to be great fodder for supranational political discourse, and allows us to examine many facets of our legal, political, and economic systems.

Thanks.

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reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 05:29 AM by Another_Nut

so does this apply to porn and/or gay prostitution?? if so i see i new .sex capital of the world. truly disturbed .

reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 06:41 AM by 12m8keall2c

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