Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by sacgamer25
Hi, sacgamer25, you make reference to the "Holy Spirit." I wonder if you could define what the Holy spirit is? I posted a question on this very
subject today, have you read it?
Is the "Holy Spirit" in Reality a Demon?
Now be aware, I am only asking a question. I hear a great deal of talk in here about this Holy Spirit, and it is time we delved into it and discovered
exactly what it is.
I will share with you the truth, because anything less would be making God small. Here is where I will lose the Christian audience but will in fact
be showing you what the bible says.
Based on everything you have posted, I believe that you wish to live by the law of love, and in most cases this is what you do. You have rejected the
doctrine taught by the church because the judgment and hate does not agree with the law of love.
Ok so the truth, if you live by the law of love than you prove the Holy Spirit lives in you. The bible says that no one could recognize, nor observe
the law of love if they did not have the Holy Spirit. Autowrench as much as you reject the bible I believe that you are my brother and that the same
spirit that lives in me lives in you.
You see this is how Christ came to abolish religion. He made the simple statement that not one is good except God. When he said this he was
referring to the Holy Spirit in us. It would be impossible for man to do good or know good, or even to love or feel love if the Holy Spirit did not
live in them. In this way Christ was saying that all love comes from God so it is easy for us to recognize our brothers and sisters.
I am not sure exactly how it works but by looking at the world it appears that many do not live by the law of love. I don’t fully understand
weather they were born with the spirit or not. Personally I believe one of three possibilities, bad people are possessed by evil, they were never
born with the spirit, or they have become so consumed with greed and lust that the spirit no longer dwells in them.
So when the bible talks about separating yourself from sinners, these are the people that we are to separate from. The type of people who cause harm
to others without feeling remorse and asking forgiveness. Why would anyone loving want to be associated with someone like that anyway?
The problem with the Christian understanding of the Holy Spirit is when it comes to baptism. Christians have misunderstood baptism of the Holy
Spirit. Since we were born with the spirit because our father loved us and forgave us from before we were born, we don’t have anything to receive
upon believing. So baptism by water is only an outward sign, but most churches say that you receive the spirit by either praying a certain prayer or
by water baptism. But this is not what the bible says.
The baptism of the Holy Spirit is truly a separation of one’s sinful desires and the spiritual desires. Anyone who has been baptized by the Holy
Spirit no longer has any desire for sin and may even be disgusted by the sin they see in the world. No one can only think they were baptized and you
can tell who is by what they say. If someone says they have been baptized by the spirit, but continues to judge and spread hate, this simply cannot
I apologize if this sounded like a sermon but the question you asked is quite complex. About the Holy Spirit being a Demon. The Holy Spirit is not a
demon but there are demon spirits. So if someone is spreading hate and judgment, they have accepted a message that comes from an evil spirit. The
easiest way to know what spirit someone has listened to is to compare what they say to what Christ said. The Holy Spirit agrees with Christ and the
evil spirit contradicts Christ.
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