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Chemtrails... Where does the chemicals come from?

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posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
I admit,
if I drive by your house my car spits chemicals at you,
but you refuse to admit that when you fly over my head,
that you are dropping chemicals on me.


Patently untrue and another example of you mocking me by your pretended ignorance!

I posted the diagram of the chemicals created by jet engines - you are just trolling!



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posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul



Patently untrue and another example of you mocking my your pretended ignorance!

I posted the diagram of the chemicals created by jet engines - you are just trolling!




Show me the Patent that makes it untrue.
Have to have 2 lines like they do trails in the sky.



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 09:36 PM
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reply to post by SurrealisticPillow
 


Look all you have to do is scientifically prove that chemtrails exist and the problem will be solved. Oh that's right I have asked that in many other threads and still nothing, hmm I wonder why?


That's right chemtrails do not exist and nobody has come forward yet. But please feel free and prove all the debunkers wrong or at least do some research and learn about what you see. The last part I leave for you to do if you want to.But please I beg of you to prove debunkers wrong if you can.



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 09:37 PM
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reply to post by Gmoneycricket
 


lol - you seem to have trouble with definitions today - don't know what a chemtrail is, and don't know what "patently" means...

patently

Pronunciation: /ˈpeɪt(ə)ntli/
adverb
[often as submodifier]

clearly; without doubt: these claims were patently false

From the same dictionary liejunkie used before... oxforddictionaries.com...
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posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by SurrealisticPillow
reply to post by Gmoneycricket
 

They won't admit to anything, perhaps because they don't really know what is going on overhead.
You can't be sure what they know, other than basic high school science. In some cases, anyway.
ATS is not the place where you can find answers, only clues.



I just went outside to smoke. I looked up and saw a plane leaving a contrail in the moonlight. Here are the conditions.


Feels Like: 46°F

Relative Humidity: 62% (26%/62%)
Dew Point: 32°F (27°F/32°F)
Wind Direction/Speed: 0 mph
Barometric Pressure: 29.86"
Rainfall Since Midnight: 0.00"
Rainfall Last 6 Hours: 0.00"
Rainfall Last 3 Hours: 0.00"
Rainfall Last 1 Hour: 0.00"
Est. Cloud Ceiling: 12000 ft.

www.anythingweather.com/current.aspx?id=4553

I will leave it up to your highly intelectual abilities to do some research on relative humidity, altitude, and temp to come to a rational contrail conclusion.........

I have done my homework, obviously you have not.
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posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 09:41 PM
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reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 

I know I want to say the same to you


Definition:
Water is a chemical compound consisting of two hydrogen atoms and one oxygen. The name water typically refers to the liquid state of the compound. The solid phase is known as ice and gas phase is called steam. Also Known As: Dihydrogen monoxide, H2O



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 09:44 PM
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Anyway its always a good laugh when you turn a conspiracy into water.



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 09:47 PM
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reply to post by liejunkie01
 

Yeah, I am still up. I love my MACALLAN Scotch.
Yeah, I read what you posted...the "haven't done your research" part.
Noted.
Doesn't really mean much, but, if you think it does and you can sleep tonight, then sleep.



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 09:49 PM
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reply to post by liejunkie01
 

So the contrail is not water?



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 09:50 PM
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reply to post by tsurfer2000h
 

You are a very important person. It is very clear that you have asked me so many questions and I have been negligent. I am SO sorry issue tsurfer.



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by SurrealisticPillow
reply to post by liejunkie01
 

Yeah, I am still up. I love my MACALLAN Scotch.
Yeah, I read what you posted...the "haven't done your research" part.
Noted.
Doesn't really mean much, but, if you think it does and you can sleep tonight, then sleep.


I hate to use the word troll, but damn man.

Here is a read for you. I took one paragraph from this file.........


A common impurity in jet
fuel is sulfur (~0.05% by
weight), which contributes
to the formation of small
particles containing various
sulfur species. These
particles can serve as sites
for water droplet growth
in the exhaust and, if
water droplets form, they
might freeze to form ice
particles that compose a contrail. Enough particles are present
in the surrounding atmosphere, however, that particles from the
engine are not required for contrail formation. There are no lead
or ethylene dibromide additives in jet fuel. Additives currently
used in jet fuels are all organic compounds that may also contain
a small fraction of sulfur or nitrogen.

www.epa.gov/otaq/regs/nonroad/aviation/contrails.pdf

The PDF goes into detail about persistant contrails and their possible affect on the weather and every other thing you can think of about contrails...........

Notice it says that additives currently used in jet fuels are all organic compounds.....................

The info is all there, it is up to you to educate yourself in a manner that coincides with deny ignorance.......



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
reply to post by liejunkie01
 

So the contrail is not water?



Will you get over the water bit?

What are you getting at and what is the purpose of this argument?
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posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by tsurfer2000h
reply to post by SurrealisticPillow
 


Look all you have to do is scientifically prove that chemtrails exist and the problem will be solved. Oh that's right I have asked that in many other threads and still nothing, hmm I wonder why?


That's right chemtrails do not exist and nobody has come forward yet. But please feel free and prove all the debunkers wrong or at least do some research and learn about what you see. The last part I leave for you to do if you want to.But please I beg of you to prove debunkers wrong if you can.


We prove in every thread that airplane exhaust has water a chemical in it,
but you debunkers that claim there is no chemical called water on the planet.
Can you proof there is no chemical called water on this planet.



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 10:04 PM
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reply to post by liejunkie01
 


The debunkers told me it was harmless water vapor called a contrail, I agreed with them and said water is a chemical and now they seem threaten by water is a chemical.



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 10:20 PM
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reply to post by Gmoneycricket
 

Um...thanks for bringing that to our attention.
Sort of ends the debate, don't it?



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by Gmoneycricket

You really are just trolling now, aren't you


We prove in every thread that airplane exhaust has water a chemical in it,


Actually it is "debunkers" who always show that there is water in contrails - like in this thread I did - where did you do so??



but you debunkers that claim there is no chemical called water on the planet.


Show me anywhere where anyone has claimed there is no water on this planet? Go on - provide some evidence for your claim!!



Can you proof there is no chemical called water on this planet.


No - I refuse to - prove me wrong!


Oh and what has this go to do with chemtrails??

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posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 11:08 PM
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Anyway out of all the debunkers I have respect for you,
just wanted you to know that.
You are the best one, that for the most part, sticks to the facts.
Maybe I just don't communicate in a way that others can understand,
but the facts seem simple to me.
It is a man made machine that has some kind of chemicals released by its design, even maybe water.







edit on 6-1-2012 by Gmoneycricket because: even maybe water.



posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 12:15 AM
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Originally posted by SurrealisticPillow
reply to post by liejunkie01
 

Yeah, I am still up. I love my MACALLAN Scotch.
Yeah, I read what you posted...the "haven't done your research" part.
Noted.
Doesn't really mean much, but, if you think it does and you can sleep tonight, then sleep.



I love your reply & quote


To the people out there that don't believe Chemtrails: there are enough pictures, videos, and government documents that prove Chemtrails exists and are real. We did not create the term "Chemtrails" the United States government did. Read the United States Bill H.R. 2977

H.R.2977



(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems 12 such as— 13
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information 14 weapons
(ii) chemtrails
(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency 17 weapons systems;



posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 12:44 AM
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That bill was in 2001.

According to Rense, Will Thomas had coined the term some time prior to this report in 2000

And of course the firs known use of the word, AFAIK, comes from a basic chemistry textbook from 1990.

But you'd have to ask Will Thomas if he'd ever heard of it, 'cos I don't think the textbook has much to do with aircraft leaving lines in the sky. He has a website available somewhere - here it is - perhaps you can ask him if you think it important somehow??


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posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 12:51 AM
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Originally posted by dw31243

Originally posted by SurrealisticPillow
reply to post by liejunkie01
 

Yeah, I am still up. I love my MACALLAN Scotch.
Yeah, I read what you posted...the "haven't done your research" part.
Noted.
Doesn't really mean much, but, if you think it does and you can sleep tonight, then sleep.



I love your reply & quote


To the people out there that don't believe Chemtrails: there are enough pictures, videos, and government documents that prove Chemtrails exists and are real. We did not create the term "Chemtrails" the United States government did. Read the United States Bill H.R. 2977

H.R.2977



(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems 12 such as— 13
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information 14 weapons
(ii) chemtrails
(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency 17 weapons systems;









Oh yes that was the bill introduced by Dennis Kucinich with no cosponsors.......


Space Preservation Act of 2001Kucinich introduced the first Space Preservation Act, on October 2, 2001, with no cosponsors. The bill was designed to "preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind." The bill was referred to the House Science, the House Armed Services, and the House International Relations committees. The bill died in committee (April 9, 2002) because of an unfavorable executive comment received from the Department of Defense.[98]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Kucinich

The term Chemtrail was around long before that bill was introduced............


In 1996, a chemtrail conspiracy theory began to circulate when the United States Air Force (USAF) was accused of "spraying the US population with mysterious substances" from aircraft "generating unusual contrail patterns."[4] The Air Force says these accusations were a hoax fueled in part by citations to a strategy paper drafted within the Air Force's Air University entitled Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025.[10][11] The paper was presented in response to a military directive to outline a future strategic weather modification system for the purpose of maintaining the United States' military dominance in the year 2025, and identified as "fictional representations of future

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory

Maybe Mr. Kucinich was misled to believe that chemtrails were real...................

It is known that the term was used before he introduced the bill.....The bill did'nt pass(for some reason)..........

ETA: Darnit ATG, it took me a minute to look this info up.....lol...............you beat me to it but I added a little info.......

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