posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 05:54 PM
Thank you, I did say straight off that I disagreed, it is only fair if I reply with my own view, for comparison;
Originally posted by Aqualung2012
1) Living near an international airport makes be able to observe many types of airplane all year round, in varying altitudes, weather conditions and
It is my experience as an aviation nut of four decades standing that the prevalence of trails has nothing to do with proximity to airports. Aircraft
landing or taking off at Leeds/Bradford, Doncaster Robin Hood or Manchester (the three closest to me) never leave any trails when I've photographed
them. Even when I'm at home, when I check an aircraft I have photographed on flightglobal atlas (a tracker) the ones not leaving a trail have either
taken off or are landing at one of them and so are relatively low. Everything I've photographed whilst leaving a trail is higher up and heading
either to the USA or a mainland European city (east/west) or a domestic flight heading to/from London or Scotland. I've posted some of these in the
research thread at the top of this board (such as here www.abovetopsecret.com...
2) I constantly witness normal contrails (e.g. "short-lived," unform streaks which always dissapate in a matter of minutes if not seconds after the
plane had passed.) This is under evey array of conditions.
I also notice lots of these, but also all of the others you've described, from my own house, I've posted quite a few pictures in cherubbaby's
thread here www.abovetopsecret.com...
However there is nothing suspicious about these trails as they behave exactly as I
would expect them to. This isn't to say that there cannot be anything 'chem' about them. Only that the behaviours I asked you about cannot be used
as proof that there is, because it is normal and expected at those heights and conditions.
3) I understand that contrails are mere water vapor... which dissapear sortly after being dispersed.
My opinion is not that of an expert, but of an experienced observer.
I'm no expert either, but we clearly think differently. I understand trails to be tiny ice crystals that sublimate and disappear quickly on days
where the RH is low, and that linger amongst the cirrus clouds (even helping promote their creation) when it is high.
I suppose what makes it seem strange to me is simply the inconsistancy of it. I will watch one plane go by, billowing this aerosol, and a
moment later, at roughly the same altitude and speed, i witnedd one with a perfectly normal contrail...
Or even more so, one day the sky will be covered in these streaks, and the next, almost identical day, there are none or very few.
I am conscious that it is impossible to judge altitude and speed by sight from the ground, a fact frequently brought home to me by the stats from the
tracker I use, I am also familiar with the vagaries of the atmosphere which can vary quite a lot in a small area and also that the conditions I
experience on the ground are utterly unrelated to what is 25-35,000ft over my head and that if the weather is the same as yesterday for me, it
doesn't mean its the same where the jets are. What I have learned about the atmosphere and about aircraft fits like a glove when I'm observing
aircraft and the trails they do or don't leave, so I don't find it odd or mysterious.
My question to you is why does it NOT seem strange to you?
I hope that answers you, though I dont expect to convince you, thats not my aim. Just to try to exchange viewpoints without it becoming a slagfest