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James Carrion Former Director of MUFON
"Mr. Bigelow did not fund MUFON’s work for BAASS, instead “sponsors” that Bigelow revealed to John Schuessler but not to the other MUFON Board Members put up the money."
Originally posted by wildtimes
Isn't this the place where the farmer claimed he killed a grey with his ninja sword and had no evidence at all? (And claimed he'd been dealing with the "vermin" for years)...
I posted that story in the Aliens/UFO forum months ago and was laughed out of the room...haven't given it much thought since...but I'm interested to look at the links you've posted here; fascinating story...
s/f OP
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by hiii_98
Oh, okay...I went back and looked. It was at a ranch in Phoenix; and Bigelow was involved in the place as well as the skinwalker ranch. I knew I recognized the name...
So...anyway, sorry for the interruption. Just in case anyone cares, here's that thread from last summer: It does discuss MUFON, Bigelow, Levengood, alleged Alien blood samples, and healthy entree of debunking bashery
www.abovetopsecret.com...
I'm still fairly a beginner in terms of the "real meat and potatoes" and "who's who" of this field, but a long-time interested observer in the stuff...
Samples purported to be alien extraterrestrial tissue and fluid samples were shipped from a ranch near Phoenix, Arizona where bizarre incidents have taken place over many weeks, months and years, culminating in a number of extraterrestrial entities being stabbed, wounded or killed in the ranch house by its owner, John Edmonds, who wrote:
"...wiped up the blood/Fluid and tissue of the Gray I nearly split in two parts with an exceptionally well sharpened Samurai sword. After hand to hand combat with these little parasites. We have plenty of evidence to prove it, gathered over many years." See, "John Edmonds elaborates," at bottom of page.
This gave plenty of fluid and tissue samples to work with. In summary:
Blood found?
The sample appears to be pure hemoglobin like that found at the Cattle Mutilation sites with what appears to be segment rods in the blood, never seen anything like it. ---Levengood, see attachments 1 & 2.
Skin?
Looks like segmented grass except it's not grass Levengood said, see attachment 2.
Details/data and analysis
Numerous samples have been collected under correct forensic technique by several skilled investigators and were sent to independent labs of high regard. All came back with the same result that the proteins in the samples could not be identified as anything they had seen before either plant or animal or human. One lab did add that the samples sent to them did match the samples they had tested over the last 30 years of fluid specimens they had tested from various cattle mutilations across the South West US. They believed that there was a 100% compatibility that the two were from the same creature(s). Finally a smoking Gun that absolutely links cattle mutilations to alien life forms. One scientist was extremely elated by the discovery!
The important significance of these fluid matches is that according to W.C. Levengood, the fact that they matched so well was proof that indeed they were both extraterrestrial as the samples match nothing from the animal or plant kingdoms on Earth. However, as said above, the samples match the samples from mutilated cattle sites, and that would in Levengood's words show a correlation between aliens, cattle mutilations, and the obvious hostile intent of the Gray Aliens.
Robert Bigelow and his agency spent close to a month studying the ranch and the events here and my wife and I under went extensive interviewing, video taping, and analysis by ex FBI and CIA investigators. Everyone involved has had a consensus that the events here are real, accurate in nature, and have not been publicly released due to my desire to avoid a deluge of publicity which will neither further the investigation nor heighten the hard science approach to an unexplained phenomena that deserves the respect of remaining a discussion between professionals.
I checked out Base Camp at night once. Not much happening. But nearby, on private land across the highway, there would be the occasional strobe light. Were these lights there to guide aircraft? Well upon closer inspection, the irrigation system puts out a strobe light when the water kicks on. Who knew?
So there I am: witness. I see a strobe. I could report strange occurrences and pass a lie detector test. However, doing due diligence, I find the source of the strobe to be very ordinary. This is how you go from observer to (cough cough) expert witness.
Originally posted by gariac
reply to post by hiii_98
How does one know a private security force has TS clearance? Note also that having TS clearance isn't very useful unless there is someone to enforce OPSEC. For instance, Oprah could require her security force to have TS clearance, but that wouldn't stop them from blabbing to the press because whatever they reveal would not be a government secret. There is no enforcement of the TS clearance if the information itself isn't secret.
Originally posted by connorromanow
reply to post by greyer
I've seen that interview before, I found it amazing what happens there, if they were telling the truth